• Goodbye Nick Pope

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:30 pm**

Thanks for everything Nick. You have been outstanding. Cheers for the years with us . Same with Tarks and Mcneil. Nd some others. You'll always be clarets. Barnes might get another contract now.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:35 pm**

Arguably the best keeper we've ever had.
Good luck to him in his future career.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:39 pm**

Properly sad to have to lose a player and a professional like Nick Pope.

Arguably our greatest ever goal keeper.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:39 pm**

Another legend. The best in my view. Thank you Nick.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:49 pm**

Between Pope and Heaton we have been blessed the last few years. He, and Mercer, will be a huge loss and very hard to replace.
Thanks big Nick.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:51 pm**

Nixon today said we want 40m for him whether we stay up or go down. I’d be surprised to see anyone pay 40m - not that I don’t think he’s worth it.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:52 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 6:51 pm
Nixon today said we want 40m for him whether we stay up or go down. I’d be surprised to see anyone pay 40m - not that I don’t think he’s worth it.

I’d be surprised if they don’t. A world class keeper and I would really want more!!!

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:52 pm**

Let’s move on and sign Heaton back onwards and upwards

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:54 pm**

Hennessey will do a good job for us.

I hope Pope stays but appreciate his reasons if he decides he needs to move on. Same with Tarky and Dwight, Wout and Maxwel will also be considering their future given that both came to play PL football. Cornet has proven he can get goals but Wout hasn't really shown anyone his best - though I expect him to end up back in Holland.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:56 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 6:52 pm
I’d be surprised if they don’t. A world class keeper and I would really want more!!!

Name me a team in the Prem who would spend 40m on him

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:56 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 6:51 pm
Nixon today said we want 40m for him whether we stay up or go down. I’d be surprised to see anyone pay 40m - not that I don’t think he’s worth it.

Agree and probably more like £20m - £25m.

He's been absolutely brilliant for us.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 6:58 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 6:56 pm
Name me a team in the Prem who would spend 40m on him

Spurs, I reckon. I think he’s a top 3 PL keeper. Walking out of Villa last week every single fan was talking about how brilliant he is.

If Arsenal fork out the same for Ramsdale, I think we’d get that for Pope.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:01 pm**

I guess the bigger clubs that would pay significant sums of money for a keeper probably wouldn't want him because of his only weakness.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:04 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 6:58 pm
Spurs, I reckon. I think he’s a top 3 PL keeper. Walking out of Villa last week every single fan was talking about how brilliant he is.

If Arsenal fork out the same for Ramsdale, I think we’d get that for Pope.

Unfortunately it’s an absolute minimum requirement for a top club keeper to be very comfortable on the ball. I love Nick Pope but he is really lacking in that department.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:12 pm**

Give me a shot stopper over being good in possession any day. Pope will win points for a team next season.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:14 pm**

The problem is that we might try to hold out for 40m while the window moves on, because we are banking on getting that amount for him.

However, the other clubs will know that they can get him cheaper and that we will be looking to sell. After the Wood sale the other clubs know that our owners won't turn down cash offers when push comes to shove. With relegation, Popes contract running down, lower wages and a lot of questions about our future Pace probably can't avoid selling even if he wanted to. In fact he talked about the need to sell players, up or down, shortly before Dyche was sacked.

So the window will tick on, the better players will be signed while we refrain from doing deals until we know how much money we have to work with, and then we will be staring at the end of the window with a lot of work to do. At which point we will sell him cheaply, just like we will sell the others cheaply.

A relegated team with no money and lots of debt is a helpless feast for the carrion crows.

Pope has been immense for us and I would rather see him continue his career at the highest level. He deserves to do that if that is his choice.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:16 pm**

He’s going nowhere

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:17 pm**

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 7:16 pm
He’s going nowhere

Want to bet??

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:18 pm**

The best Burnley keeper in my lifetime. He'll be irreplaceable.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:18 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 7:04 pm
Unfortunately it’s an absolute minimum requirement for a top club keeper to be very comfortable on the ball. I love Nick Pope but he is really lacking in that department.

Twaddle

The only reason we had a chance of avoiding relegation today is because of all the super human saves Pope has made in the last few weeks. His shop stopping was the difference between wins and losses. Those saves put points on the board this season, just like every season.

A keepers first duty is to stop the other teams scoring, just like it is a defenders first duty to do the same. Comfortable on the ball, better distribution clap trap. That is the sort of nonsense talk that has stopped Tarks getting more caps and prevented Mee from getting any.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:19 pm**

AwayClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 7:17 pm
Want to bet??

Go on then

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:24 pm**

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 7:19 pm
Go on then

Ok. You name it I'll bet it.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:34 pm**

taio wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 7:01 pm
I guess the bigger clubs that would pay significant sums of money for a keeper probably wouldn't want him because of his only weakness.

And his biggest strength. Top clubs don't need a world class shot stopper as they don't allow many shots on goal. They'll make do with an average GK with good ball skills. I hope if he moves on he gets the England jersey, deserves nothing less. Great servant to the club and I'll always remember the passion, "We're not ******* dead yet!"

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:40 pm**

I remember being at his first full game at Anfield when Scott Arfield gave us the lead! Backs to the wall for almost 90 minutes and what a performance from Pope! All the best Nick

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:48 pm**

As awesome as Pope is, no top club is gonna sign him, then the clubd mid table and newly promoted arent going to spend that sort of a money on a goalkeeper.

He will be here next season. Also short summer may suit us on exits ending up staying

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 7:49 pm**

Pope is the best keeper I have ever seen in my 50 plus years watching Burnley. The word legend is thrown around now with such ease, but Nick really is.
We are not f.uvking dead yet sums him up.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:08 pm**

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 6:52 pm
I’d be surprised if they don’t. A world class keeper and I would really want more!!!

Other clubs will know we're desperate to sell though. 25 million would be a result.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:16 pm**

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 8:08 pm
Other clubs will know we're desperate to sell though. 25 million would be a result.

We don't need to sell...oh wait

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:19 pm**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 6:56 pm
Name me a team in the Prem who would spend 40m on him

Newcastle

Spurs

West Ham

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:21 pm**

Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 7:48 pm
As awesome as Pope is, no top club is gonna sign him, then the clubd mid table and newly promoted arent going to spend that sort of a money on a goalkeeper.

He will be here next season. Also short summer may suit us on exits ending up staying

Popes first priority is the World Cup squad and rightly it should be.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:23 pm**

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 8:21 pm
Popes first priority is the World Cup squad and rightly it should be.

Southgate has let several goalkeepers know over the last several years that playing in the Championship wont harm their chances

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:24 pm**

Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 8:23 pm
Southgate has let several goalkeepers know over the last several years that playing in the Championship wont harm their chances

Not when they’re a genuine #1: premier league football is a necessity

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:28 pm**

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 8:24 pm
Not when they’re a genuine #1: premier league football is a necessity

Oh be quiet. My blind sister knows Pickford will be Southgates No 1 for the next 5 years no matter what he does. Pope will know this too, he isnt dumb.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:32 pm**

Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 8:28 pm
Oh be quiet. My blind sister knows Pickford will be Southgates No 1 for the next 5 years no matter what he does. Pope will know this too, he isnt dumb.

And if gets an injury, or if he has a poor start to the season?

Nike Pope is your keeper.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:33 pm**

Blakesboots wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 8:32 pm
And if gets an injury, or if he has a poor start to the season?

Nike Pope is your keeper.

Southgate would play Pickford if he had his left arm amputated

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:39 pm**

Personal terms for Nick come into it. Pope's agent will be drawing up sale particulars as we speak.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 8:42 pm**

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 6:54 pm
Hennessey will do a good job for us.

I hope Pope stays but appreciate his reasons if he decides he needs to move on. Same with Tarky and Dwight, Wout and Maxwel will also be considering their future given that both came to play PL football. Cornet has proven he can get goals but Wout hasn't really shown anyone his best - though I expect him to end up back in Holland.

Noone. But no-one is coming in for Wout. Unless maybe a Bundesliga side

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 9:41 pm**

Sadly Nick will have to depart in order to continue his international career. If Nick and McNeil are sold along with Cornet if someone triggers his release clause we should realise circa 80 million for the three of them. Not that bothered about Cornet leaving as he has been really poor lately. Pope and McNeil however will leave a massive void in the team.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 9:43 pm**

Not necessarily for his England career,
but Nick Pope is PL class and needs to be there.
Fantastic keeper for us.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 9:52 pm**

The real testimony to how good Pope has been is that we haven't missed Heaton.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 9:54 pm**

Best keeper I have ever, and will ever see play for us. Immense.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 9:58 pm**

Conroy92 wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 9:52 pm
The real testimony to how good Pope has been is that we haven't missed Heaton.

I feared the worst when i saw him replace Heaton (was it against Palace). I didn't know anything about him and he just looked tall and gangly. Never expected in a million years that he'd be a step up from Heaton

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 10:01 pm**

I used to say Alan Stevenson was the best keeper I ever saw at Burnley, however the game has moved on a lot since then and keepers are far more athletic now. Therefore I would now say Nick is the best keeper we have had in my lifetime.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 10:03 pm**

We have three really good keepers, one of whom is world class. It is probably a luxury to keep Sir Nick on that basis when we need the cash but no point selling for under £20m. He would command that in Jan and we would have 5 months more.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 10:30 pm**

Long Time Lurker wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 7:14 pm
The problem is that we might try to hold out for 40m while the window moves on, because we are banking on getting that amount for him.

However, the other clubs will know that they can get him cheaper and that we will be looking to sell. After the Wood sale the other clubs know that our owners won't turn down cash offers when push comes to shove “
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Wood had a release clause in his contract ,once Newcastle agreed to pay that the club had no say in it

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 11:07 pm**

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 8:08 pm
Other clubs will know we're desperate to sell though. 25 million would be a result.

It doesn't matter that we are desperate to sell if more than one club wants him.

If it's just a negotiation between Burnley and (say) West Ham, then they would have us over a barrel. But if West Ham are competing with (say) Newcastle and Fulham, then they are in competition with each other and how anxious we are to sell becomes less of a factor.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 11:11 pm**

If West Ham thinks Pope is worth only £20m, then why don't they up their price to £25m and make bids for Pickford, Ramsdale, or Henderson? If that's what they think the market for England squad goalkeepers is worth!

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 11:37 pm**

Jamesy wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 9:41 pm
Not that bothered about Cornet leaving as he has been really poor lately.

Madness, get your feelings about the last few games out of the way and actually look at his stats.

16th in the Premier League for goals per 90
Above players like Maddison, Mount, Foden, Toney, Raphina, Watkins, Pukki etc...

He'd tear up the Championship.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 11:39 pm**

He hasn't quite gone yet but as probably our most saleable asset I expect he will.

Be great to have you on the ride next year Nick but if you do go - all the best. You pulled out all the stops this season but sadly it wasn't enough in front of you.

Posted: **Sun May 22, 2022 11:42 pm**

CombatClaret wrote: ↑
Sun May 22, 2022 11:37 pm
Madness, get your feelings about the last few games out of the way and actually look at his stats.

16th in the Premier League for goals per 90
Above players like Maddison, Mount, Foden, Toney, Raphina, Watkins, Pukki etc...

He'd tear up the Championship.

He might. He will get kicked all over mind and that means he might not play much.

Quite a decent return on goals but most of those were first 10 games. He scores when it's pulled back and he can move onto it or from outside the box but to do that we have to provide that service

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