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Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 6:56 pm
by CoolClaret
Cheers Pace, sacked the guy that got us out of the division we’re heading into twice and riddled us with debt.

Get out of our club you chancer

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 6:58 pm
by Belgianclaret
It's going to be a long night I'm afraid...

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 6:58 pm
by AwayClaret
🤣🤣🤣 stop 'trying' to be a wind up.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 6:58 pm
by DCWat
I wonder just how open and honest he might be over the next few days and weeks. I’m betting we will hear nothing from him.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 6:59 pm
by buzzclarets79
Is this what we’ve got to look forward to all summer?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 6:59 pm
by NewClaret
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:00 pm
by tarkys_ears
CoolClaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:56 pm
Cheers Pace, sacked the guy that got us out of the division we’re heading into twice and riddled us with debt.

Get out of our club you chancer
Go and support whatever club Dyche ends up at. Simple.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:01 pm
by CoolClaret
tarkys_ears wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:00 pm
Go and support whatever club Dyche ends up at. Simple.
Support Burnley just stating the facts.

He took a gamble and it hasn’t worked, now what?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:01 pm
by fanzone
Pace is at the bottom of the blame pile

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:02 pm
by RVclaret
CoolClaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:01 pm
Support Burnley just stating the facts.

He took a gamble and it hasn’t worked, now what?
Now we continue to support the club and see what happens next. No one knows the full details of what’s next.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:02 pm
by JR1882
Garlic
Dyche
Pace

In that order.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:02 pm
by bumba
CoolClaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:01 pm
Support Burnley just stating the facts.

He took a gamble and it hasn’t worked, now what?
Dyche got us relegated not Pace

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:03 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
Maybe we’ll hear from Garlick and Pace jointly!

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:04 pm
by Stu
CoolClaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:56 pm
Cheers Pace, sacked the guy that got us out of the division we’re heading into twice and riddled us with debt.

Get out of our club you chancer
100% agree he is a chancer and he is playing chance with our club .

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:04 pm
by ClaretMov
I'm staying off this message board until the first game of the season

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:05 pm
by Stu
bumba wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:02 pm
Dyche got us relegated not Pace
Pace played his part in us getting relegated .

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:05 pm
by BurnleyFC
He very nearly got out of jail but it’ll be very interesting to see what crap he comes out with now his worst fears have been confirmed.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:06 pm
by ChristheViking
The blame game will start now but anyone with an ounce of sense will have Pace we’ll down that list. He made a gutsy decision and unfortunately it has fallen at the final hurdle.

I hate to say this but under Dyche I don’t think we’d have reached the final hurdle. We were going down under Dyche - every indicator pointed to it.

It’s regrettable but I sense some fans will be happy we’ve gone because they’ve now got a stick to beat Pace with. Wrong guy.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:07 pm
by taio
Unfortunatey he has put a signifcant amount of risk around the club.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:07 pm
by bumba
Stu wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:05 pm
Pace played his part in us getting relegated .
Didn't realise he picked the tactics and style

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:07 pm
by CoolClaret
Got a few of you lot hook line and sinker it seems.

Got some cheap beachside property in Nelson for sale if you’re interested?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:08 pm
by Chester Perry
BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:05 pm
He very nearly got out of jail but it’ll be very interesting to see what crap he comes out with now his worst fears have been confirmed.
Even if we had survived today the only way he would have got away with it was if other investors came in and paid for his plans

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:09 pm
by fanzone
Garlick must have Tony over a barrel, 2 threads of mine deleted calling the previous owner out.

Iv no doubt ill receive a ban but thus forum is in the pits if fans can't speak openly.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:09 pm
by BurnleyFC
Chester Perry wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:08 pm
Even if we had survived today the only way he would have got away with it was if other investors came in and paid for his plans
It would’ve bought him a decent amount of time but it seems like we’re doubly screwed now.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:09 pm
by jojomk1
CoolClaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:07 pm
Got a few of you lot hook line and sinker it seems.

Got some cheap beachside property in Nelson for sale if you’re interested?
You got your one minute of "fame'

Now p!ss off 8-)

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:12 pm
by daveisaclaret
Pace isn't the main reason we've gone down but he's very much the main reason going down is going to be a total disaster for this club.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:12 pm
by CoolClaret
ChristheViking wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:06 pm
The blame game will start now but anyone with an ounce of sense will have Pace we’ll down that list. He made a gutsy decision and unfortunately it has fallen at the final hurdle.

I hate to say this but under Dyche I don’t think we’d have reached the final hurdle. We were going down under Dyche - every indicator pointed to it.

It’s regrettable but I sense some fans will be happy we’ve gone because they’ve now got a stick to beat Pace with. Wrong guy.

He made a gutsy decision?

The gutsy decision he made was not having a contingency plan but having a gamble on a ‘bounce’ & you know, the worst offense, plunging our club into debt so he can have a go at being a football chairman.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:13 pm
by CoolClaret
daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:12 pm
Pace isn't the main reason we've gone down but he's very much the main reason going down is going to be a total disaster for this club.
Agree. I never actually stated that Pace ‘sent us down’

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:14 pm
by Murger
daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:12 pm
Pace isn't the main reason we've gone down but he's very much the main reason going down is going to be a total disaster for this club.
Garlicks the 1 who sold the club in the way he did.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:15 pm
by fanzone
Murger wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:14 pm
Garlicks the 1 who sold the club in the way he did.

Spot on. If anything Pace has been shafted

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:15 pm
by BurnleyFC
Murger wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:14 pm
Garlicks the 1 who sold the club in the way he did.
Don’t worry, good old Mike doesn’t get off Scott free either.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:16 pm
by daveisaclaret
Murger wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:14 pm
Garlicks the 1 who sold the club in the way he did.
Pace designed and executed the takeover. It's fair to think Garlick shouldn't have sold it to him but you can't take any of the responsibility from the people who actually did it.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:16 pm
by NRC
Relegation is nothing to do with Alan Pace. He had the guts to try to prevent it by firing the guy that the team were no longer walking through walls for

And he is nothing to do with the financial situation at the club. The terms of the sale were clearly known by the previous ownership. His offer to purchase and the structure of it was wholly accepted by the sellers. They didn’t have to sell to an offer with that structure

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:18 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:15 pm
Don’t worry, good old Mike doesn’t get off Scott free either.
But he buys fans pints.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:18 pm
by RVclaret
NRC wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:16 pm
Relegation is nothing to do with Alan Pace. He had the guts to try to prevent it by firing the guy that the team were no longer walking through walls for

And he is nothing to do with the financial situation at the club. The terms of the sale were clearly known by the previous ownership. His offer to purchase and the structure of it was wholly accepted by the sellers. They didn’t have to sell to an offer with that structure
Exactly this - he was well within his right to make the offer that he did and it got the green light from the previous owners and PL.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:19 pm
by Chester Perry
BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:09 pm
It would’ve bought him a decent amount of time but it seems like we’re doubly screwed now.
I suspect it wouldn't be too much given the commitments

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:20 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Let’s be honest, most know why Pace doesn’t get a good rep from “uptheclarets”.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:21 pm
by gawthorpe_view
daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:12 pm
Pace isn't the main reason we've gone down but he's very much the main reason going down is going to be a total disaster for this club.
Prophetic post.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:22 pm
by daveisaclaret
NRC wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:16 pm
Relegation is nothing to do with Alan Pace. He had the guts to try to prevent it by firing the guy that the team were no longer walking through walls for

And he is nothing to do with the financial situation at the club. The terms of the sale were clearly known by the previous ownership. His offer to purchase and the structure of it was wholly accepted by the sellers. They didn’t have to sell to an offer with that structure
Alan Pace using the club's money to buy the club and putting the club into debt is nothing to do with Alan Pace???

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:22 pm
by taio
Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:20 pm
Let’s be honest, most know why Pace doesn’t get a good rep from “uptheclarets”.
Agree, and some brilliant posters have laid bare with lots of accuracy the huge risks the club carries.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:23 pm
by claptrappers_union
Stu wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:05 pm
Pace played his part in us getting relegated .
We need much investment in the transfer window, we lost Wood by no fault of our own and replaced him with Weghorst…

We didn’t sign anyone else. If Wood hadn’t left, what investment in the window would’ve been made?

Alan Pace is out of his depth when it comes to running a football club.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:24 pm
by Murger
daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:22 pm
Alan Pace using the club's money to buy the club and putting the club into debt is nothing to do with Alan Pace???
Did Alan Pace force Garlick to sell?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:24 pm
by BurnleyFC
Chester Perry wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:19 pm
I suspect it wouldn't be too much given the commitments
Do you think there’s a fair chance he’ll have to cut his losses?

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:25 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:23 pm
We need much investment in the transfer window, we lost Wood by no fault of our own and replaced him with Weghorst…

We didn’t sign anyone else. If Wood hadn’t left, what investment in the window would’ve been made?

Alan Pace is out of his depth when it comes to running a football club.
We lost Wood as Newcastle met his release clause. Stop trying to rewrite history. Maybe look back at the transfer windows under the previous chairman.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:25 pm
by daveisaclaret
Murger wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:24 pm
Did Alan Pace force Garlick to sell?
What kind of inane question is this? Alan Pace is responsible for our financial situation because he's our chairman and all of the bad decisions were his ideas that he has done.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:26 pm
by claptrappers_union
Garlic wanted to sell the club. That’s his choice.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:27 pm
by Murger
daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:25 pm
What kind of inane question is this? Alan Pace is responsible for our financial situation because he's our chairman and all of the bad decisions were his ideas that he has done.
Because you're blaming nobody but Pace. Garlick wanted to sell the club and Garlick agreed to the leveraged sale. If you're blaming Pace for what's happened, you have to blame the previous regime more.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:29 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
taio wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:22 pm
Agree, and some brilliant posters have laid bare with lots of accuracy the huge risks the club carries.
I’ve no doubt about that.
Some people have been a disgrace though and should not be trusted going forwards.
You can’t trust people who can so easily be swayed.

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:29 pm
by NRC
daveisaclaret wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:12 pm
Pace isn't the main reason we've gone down but he's very much the main reason going down is going to be a total disaster for this club.
Totally not the case, even in prophecy. There were three scenarios
- go down under the previous ownership. How does their known MO point to the club evolving or getting promoted again?
- go down under Pace. Certainly the financials are a shackle, but the club was sold into that structure and at least he’s a change agent
- alternate management, which is not worth speculating about

Given the above, I would rather go down with the current management at the helm than the previous

Re: Alan Pace

Posted: Sun May 22, 2022 7:29 pm
by fanzone
claptrappers_union wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 7:26 pm
Garlic wanted to sell the club. That’s his choice.
Sold the club with the clubs money. Work that out