Hope he stays. Some will disagree but I believe he can smash 30 in the championship next season.

I can't see a Premier league club in for him, unless he goes back to Germany he will be going nowhere

You’re probs right , with a decent sidekick , Jay staying fit and some sort of decent service he could bang a hatful

He’s been a flop in the Premier League, but so was Mitrovic really. I’d be keen to keep him for this league.

Juke Mk 2.

Get rid.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 7:58 am

Juke Mk 2.

Get rid.

Feel like he’s a lot better with the ball into his feet. I can see him being tricky in the championship. A couple of early goals maybe needed to get his confidence up. Pretty sure it’s not gone how he envisaged so far so hopefully he’s desperate to prove himself.

I’m not sure he has the required physicality for the Championship.

Interestingly his xG for the 20 games he played was 5.4 (so performing way worse than his xG)

I think there’s a good footballer in there but he needs to adjust to the English leagues.

Was a shame that Jay then Vydra got injured because I feel that they combined the best with Wout

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 8:02 am

Interestingly his xG for the 20 games he played was 5.4 (so performing way worse than his xG)

I think there’s a good footballer in there but he needs to adjust to the English leagues.

Was a shame that Jay then Vydra got injured because I feel that they combined the best with Wout

Absolutely this. We played our best football with Wout & Jay up front. They looked a handful and we looked a real PL team. He also looked pretty decent alongside Vyds too. I would also say that in all the recent games he didn’t start, we looked better when he came on.

I’d perhaps go as far to say that had Barnes not been brought back in to the side, we might’ve stayed up.

It didn’t quite work out for him in front of goal; but for being inches away vs Newcastle and a superb Mings block, he’d have kept us up from the subs bench.

He’d tear the Championship apart so I very much hope he stays.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 7:57 am

He’s been a flop in the Premier League, but so was Mitrovic really. I’d be keen to keep him for this league.

Can we please stop saying this it’s just not accurate at all.

Averages 1-4 based on apps and 1-3 based on minutes played.

Slightly different to Wouts

A class player who needs a class midfielder(John Swift) to create opportunities for him

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 8:18 am

Can we please stop saying this it’s just not accurate at all.

Averages 1-4 based on apps and 1-3 based on minutes played.

Slightly different to Wouts

No I won’t stop saying it, Mitrovic has thus far flopped in the Premier League.

He got three goals in 27 league games (a lot of which he was sub from, due to being dropped by relegation fighting Fulham as he was not scoring goals) on his last jaunt in the Premier League. You’re only as good as your last season.

In any case, it’s largely irrelevant to the case of Weghorst as they’re very different players physically (Mitrovic has a lot more of the qualities that would likely make you succeed in the Championship than Weghorst). I only bring it up as Mitrovic went from scoring 3 goals in 27 league games (FLOPPED) to 43 goals in 44 league games.

Adjust or not, he recently missed two golden opportunities which may have kept us up.

I had high hopes for him but it's clearly not come for him this season.

We'll see what happens, I guess.

No pace, no strength, decent feet, can’t finish his tea. Him and Vydra up top would provide a solid worst miss competition at the end of the season.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 8:25 am

No I won’t stop saying it, Mitrovic has thus far flopped in the Premier League.

He got three goals in 27 league games (a lot of which he was sub from, due to being dropped by relegation fighting Fulham as he was not scoring goals) on his last jaunt in the Premier League. You’re only as good as your last season.

In any case, it’s largely irrelevant to the case of Weghorst as they’re very different players physically (Mitrovic has a lot more of the qualities that would likely make you succeed in the Championship than Weghorst). I only bring it up as Mitrovic went from scoring 3 goals in 27 league games (FLOPPED) to 43 goals in 44 league games.

In fairness Mitrovic did score 11 goals in a poor Fulham side that went down in 18/19, so it's not like he's been a complete dud at that level.

He's also scored a lot of goals in the Championship playing in strong sides that have won promotion. I'm not sure Weghorst will be playing in such a side next season, but here's hoping.

I think he's a decent player who has struggled a bit to adapt to the Premier League pace, and clearly lost confidence with lack of service. If he stays and providing we improve our creativeness, I can see him scoring a decent amount of goals in the Championship. Probably needs some alongside him with pace and good movement.

He’s a Dutch international! Our service to him was pretty crap. If he stays he could be a real star for us

TheOriginalLongsider wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 8:55 am

He’s a Dutch international! Our service to him was pretty crap. If he stays he could be a real star for us

Only 5 strikers in the premier league had a worst finishing rate than Weghorst this season (plus he’s the only striker in the top 10 of that list that signed in January).

But yes let’s blame the service

There’s no way on earth he would get 30 in the Champ. Fanciful stuff. I don’t think he’d get 20. He may have more time on the ball in the Champ but as mentioned above the physicality would be too much for him. He also still had no pace and can’t head.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 7:44 am

Hope he stays. Some will disagree but I believe he can smash 30 in the championship next season.

He can "do a Mitrovic" for us next season if we play our cards right.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 8:59 am

Only 5 strikers in the premier league had a worst finishing rate than Weghorst this season (plus he’s the only striker in the top 10 of that list that signed in January).

But yes let’s blame the service

You think the service to him was, what?, pretty good?

You think that we utilised him in the right way?

Signing a player then refusing to play to his strengths (to the extent we bring in a finished Barnes to be exactly like he's been for the past three seasons) isn't his fault

I'm not sure if he thrive in the championship, but I think he's got more chance if utilise him correctly for starters

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 9:00 am

There’s no way on earth he would get 30 in the Champ. Fanciful stuff. I don’t think he’d get 20. He may have more time on the ball in the Champ but as mentioned above the physicality would be too much for him. He also still had no pace and can’t head.

Bundesliga is a high intensity, relatively physical league to be fair.

Not sure how to interpret his post

Some people seem to be surprised that a side that is pretty much always one of the lowest scorers in the league has strikers who score less than strikers at clubs who score more.

Despite comment above I still think he could do a job for us in the Champ and would score some goals. Think he may go back abroad though.

Slower than Gifton, gets eased off the ball by people half his size, misses sitters, strops in public when subbed and hardly ever wins a header, which is incredible. But what, he turned Harry Maguire once? Get rid if at all possible.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 9:03 am

You think the service to him was, what?, pretty good?

You think that we utilised him in the right way?

Signing a player then refusing to play to his strengths (to the extent we bring in a finished Barnes to be exactly like he's been for the past three seasons) isn't his fault

I'm not sure if he thrive in the championship, but I think he's got more chance if utilise him correctly for starters

I don’t think it was great but he had more than enough opportunities to show us his goal scoring ability.

Like I said. Only five starters in the league had a worst conversation rate (funnily enough one of them was Rodriguez).

I think he will perform better in the championship but highly doubt he will get anywhere near 20 goals. Probably ten goals and a few assists.

I’ve said it for a while, he’s likely going to end up on loan either in turkey or the Netherlands. I doubt we want his wages on the books.

I can see him off to Holland.
(Not for a pie)

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 7:58 am

Juke Mk 2.

Get rid.

Possibly, but I'm not sure. If he'll stay and if nobody wants to shell out serious money for him, then I'd like to see how he fares in the Championship. You never know.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 10:19 am

I don’t think it was great but he had more than enough opportunities to show us his goal scoring ability.

Like I said. Only five starters in the league had a worst conversation rate (funnily enough one of them was Rodriguez).

I think he will perform better in the championship but highly doubt he will get anywhere near 20 goals. Probably ten goals and a few assists.

I’ve said it for a while, he’s likely going to end up on loan either in turkey or the Netherlands. I doubt we want his wages on the books.

I dunno

I wasn't keen when we signed him, but he looks like he could be more than useful, but only if we utilise him correctly

But I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to leave and I wouldn't be surprised if we need his wages off the books

Reminds me a bit of Rouwen Hennings in that he lacks the strength & pace to play in English football.

Yeah, but potentially with the right conditioning and a full pre-season, he might be able to adapt next year? He certainly needs to bulk up, so he can fit into the robust nature of the championship

I hope he stays. He wasn't exactly put in a situation to be successful. We've struggled for goals for a while and that is largely down to our midfield. Yes, Weghorst should have done better with some of his chances but he was playing in a poor side while still getting used to the PL. Not exactly ideal. Some new additions in midfield and a manager who knows how to play to his strengths on a consistent basis could see him do well in the Championship. An early goal next season would probably work wonders for his confidence as well. We'll see!

Not for me I’m afraid. He’s far too slow even for the championship.

If WW gets the right partner and service I have a feeling he'd be ok in the Championship. I like his passion and determination. Saying that if there's a release clause or no reduced Championship wage then given our situation that could be an issue.

play him upfront on his own and get runners around him, playing him with static pretty poor strikers like Barnes and Rodriguez was never gonna be productive.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 11:03 am

play him upfront on his own and get runners around him, playing him with static pretty poor strikers like Barnes and Rodriguez was never gonna be productive.

He looked decent alongside Rodriquez.

ashtonlongsider wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 11:03 am

If WW gets the right partner and service I have a feeling he'd be ok in the Championship. I like his passion and determination. Saying that if there's a release clause or no reduced Championship wage then given our situation that could be an issue.

That player is already at the club...Vydra...both would score for fun in that division...get him signed on a new contract now

I like him, and he will be fantastic for us if he stays. Mark my words

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 12:18 pm

I like him, and he will be fantastic for us if he stays. Mark my words

Ditto Zlatan.

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 12:18 pm

I like him, and he will be fantastic for us if he stays. Mark my words

I found it puzzling to say the least that WW looked like the missing link when he first arrived, then we suddenly stopped playing to his strengths. Still do not understand how we lost him in our setup so quickly, it was no surprise to see him benched, he looked awful. Potential for a great season if he stays and a manager who knows how he works gets a grip of the team.

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 12:18 pm

I like him, and he will be fantastic for us if he stays. Mark my words

I think he will be solid. I’ve not seen anything to suggest he will be fantastic in the championship. I can still see him getting bullied by physical defenders every week.

There was an interesting quote in The Athletic about Wout:

"The Dutch striker is an intense character, driven and constantly putting in extra work, searching for improvement, including sending late-night messages to team-mates with thoughts on how they could improve."

I assume "they" refers to the team as a whole. I hope he wasn't messaging Popey telling him how to improve his positioning

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 12:18 pm

I like him, and he will be fantastic for us if he stays. Mark my words

Agreed.

Wout came to play in the premier league. I'd be extremely surprised if he didn't do back to Germany now.

Conroy92 wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 12:50 pm

Wout came to play in the premier league. I'd be extremely surprised if he didn't do back to Germany now.

Didn’t he leave due to not being jabbed tho?

I think the Championship is a bit more rough and tumble, I’m not sure he could cope with it to be honest.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Tue May 24, 2022 7:44 am

Hope he stays. Some will disagree but I believe he can smash 30 in the championship next season.

There is a creative wager to be had there Gandhi, happy to offer you the opportunity.

Steve1956 wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 12:15 pm

That player is already at the club...Vydra...both would score for fun in that division...get him signed on a new contract now

sounds like there is a 2 year deal on the table for him and he is likely to sign

MrTopTier wrote: ↑

Wed May 25, 2022 3:13 pm

There is a creative wager to be had there Gandhi, happy to offer you the opportunity.

All depends on the new manager playing to his strengths, but i would be happy to donate a tenner to a charity or the youth foundation to make it interesting.