According to the Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/3343637/2022/06 ... directed=1

That’s concerning. I assume we couldn’t agree a contract

claretandy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:10 am

According to the Athletic.

https://theathletic.com/3343637/2022/06 ... directed=1

If that proves to be true, it’s a big, big shame. He’s exactly the sort of person and player we needed for next season.

Was starting to read it when the annoying advert appears asking you to subscribe, there doesn’t appear a way of getting rid of it. If anyone could post the actual article I’d be grateful.

That’s really, really concerning, especially given Collins is also likely to leave, given his low release clause.

So no manager, no captain, no clue…

Meltdown time.

Well that's not good.

Whether it's good or bad news depends on the quality of his replacement.
Ben must be expecting Prem football..and that'll probably ensure he's in another relegation battle next season, or a season on a mid-table teams bench.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:16 am

That’s really, really concerning, especially given Collins is also likely to leave, given his low release clause.

So no manager, no captain, no clue…

Meltdown time.

Where’s it been reported about a release clause?

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:16 am

That’s really, really concerning, especially given Collins is also likely to leave, given his low release clause.

So no manager, no captain, no clue…

Meltdown time.

Come on RV your mr Positive. You can’t start saying stuff like this or there will be a meltdown

RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:19 am

Where’s it been reported about a release clause?

Jason O'Connor via Twitter - he is usually bang on the money about Irish players (reported both our deals with Brady / Hendrick first).

He said there is a release clause and Prem clubs are sniffing.

The new managers job has gotten even bigger.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:21 am

Come on RV your mr Positive. You can’t start saying stuff like this or there will be a meltdown

I thought keeping the core together was really important.

And I do find it concerning that the deal with VK is dragging on this much.

beddie wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:15 am

Was starting to read it when the annoying advert appears asking you to subscribe, there doesn’t appear a way of getting rid of it. If anyone could post the actual article I’d be grateful.

If you are on an iPhone Beddie and using standard browser, you can switch to reader mode and it allows you to read it and get around that pop up.

Reader mode is accessed through pressing the ‘aA’ in the top left of your screen when you can see the URL.

How do you replace that much know-how and experience?
Not just about the club but also about the standards expected and about getting promoted out of the championship. And being the leader in the dressing room.
Would really hope that VK is on the phone now speaking to Ben and encouraging him to reconsider.

We’re in a world of trouble.

Murger wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:24 am

The new managers job has gotten even bigger.

Selling the manager’s job has gotten even bigger.

Would be a big loss.

Nothing going right these days.

The club is likely to end up in turmoil.

Father Jack wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:30 am

Would really hope that VK is on the phone now speaking to Ben and encouraging him to reconsider.

Is VK even in the building to do this? Who knows.

taio wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:33 am

Would be a big loss.

Nothing going right these days.

The club is likely to end up in turmoil.

I think we’re already there.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:34 am

I think we’re already there.

Not quite.

Father Jack wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:30 am

How do you replace that much know-how and experience?

Would really hope that VK is on the phone now speaking to Ben and encouraging him to reconsider.

Alternatively, you could really hope that VK has something in mind other than launching the ball vaguely in Weghorsts direction, and is planning to sign a genuine footballer to replace Ben.

Who knows? I don't.

So Kompany is supposedly the next manager, we have been linked with Taylor Harwood-Bellis and an out of contract older big wage player is now leaving?

Just sounds like a decision by VK to bring in younger players and THB is a very good player.
IF and yes I know it's an IF these scenarios are all true it wouldn't be the end of the world

Bye Ben, Thanks for the memories, Another big earner off the books. Get shut of Kev now, and let's have a loan or 2 in, with Bobby Thomas.

Uh oh!

bumba wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:36 am

So Kompany is supposedly the next manager, we have been linked with Taylor Harwood-Bellis and an out of contract older big wage player is now leaving?

Just sounds like a decision by VK to bring in younger players and THB is a very good player.
IF and yes I know it's an IF these scenarios are all true it wouldn't be the end of the world

I’d rather have Ben Mee than any young lad who may (or may not) be decent. There is no accounting for experience at that level, he’s been there, seen it and bought the T-Shirt (twice). There’s a lorry load of experience leaving this summer as is, we needed to retain at least some of what our success over the last decade has been built around.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:23 am

Jason O'Connor via Twitter - he is usually bang on the money about Irish players (reported both our deals with Brady / Hendrick first).

He said there is a release clause and Prem clubs are sniffing.

Makes no reference to what the release clause is.

Devastating news but I thought the longer it went on that this would happen. Can see the promoted clubs being all over him. What a player he has been for us, on and off the pitch.

Very disappointed but I fully expected it.

The only way we’ll officially know though is when another club announces his signing. There won’t be a dicky bird out of our club.

I thought someone said he’d agreed a deal with us a few weeks ago?

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:39 am

I’d rather have Ben Mee than any young lad who may (or may not) be decent. There is no accounting for experience at that level, he’s been there, seen it and bought the T-Shirt (twice). There’s a lorry load of experience leaving this summer as is, we needed to retain at least some of what our success over the last decade has been built around.

I think we’d all want Mee to stay but its obvious he’s decided to leave. Not much we can do about it.

RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:40 am

Makes no reference to what the release clause is.

A few people have direct messaged him and he’s confirmed that it’s around 20m mark

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:45 am

I thought someone said he’d agreed a deal with us a few weeks ago?

Think CT said it'd been agreed 2-3 weeks ago but it's one of two things if true
1) Kompany doesn't want him
2) Kompany hasn't signed yet so Mee has got frustrated and decided not to sign

If Ben Mee isn’t buying into the plan then maybe it’s not as good as some posters want to make us believe.

Les Lawrence wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:36 am

Bye Ben, Thanks for the memories, Another big earner off the books. Get shut of Kev now, and let's have a loan or 2 in, with Bobby Thomas.

That doesn’t to me sound like the basis for a promising season. We’ve built our success on being solid at the back. We had a huge rebuilding job to do prior to this news.

We can only hope that Kompany (assuming he does join) can rebuild a team as well as Viera did at Palace, last season. It’s worrying, it’s not an easy task for an experienced manager, let alone one with very limited experience.

I don’t see who we’ve brought in that’s going to allow us to act quickly and decisively in the transfer market, which is likely imperative with all of the players departing, positions that we needed to strengthen anyway and the short turnaround to the new season.

Throw into the mix the uncertainty about our finances and it’s not looking good for next season, at this point in time.

And yet we still hear nothing from the bloke supposedly leading the club.

jedi_master wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:39 am

I’d rather have Ben Mee than any young lad who may (or may not) be decent. There is no accounting for experience at that level, he’s been there, seen it and bought the T-Shirt (twice). There’s a lorry load of experience leaving this summer as is, we needed to retain at least some of what our success over the last decade has been built around.

I agree I'd rather him stay, just trying to give another view on it.
Hopefully it's a lack of news making reporters make stuff up but it's all a bit quiet at the moment.

20million,thought he was out of contract. Good move for him if he can get one. Only played 21 games last season and his legs are going

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:47 am

A few people have direct messaged him and he’s confirmed that it’s around 20m mark

Don’t think that’s the case. Can you show evidence of this?

Only positive I’m thinking here is that IF VK is the new man, he wants to play football on the deck, with retaining possession in the defence being quite a bit of the part of the system. Mee, as much as we love him, has never been good at this and loses the ball way too often.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:51 am

Don’t think that’s the case. Can you show evidence of this?

Rv I assume you have Twitter, what’s your addy on it Il forward the pics from a group chat.

Les Lawrence wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:50 am

20million,thought he was out of contract. Good move for him if he can get one. Only played 21 games last season and his legs are going

I wish we could stop with this “his legs have gone” nonsense. He picked up an injury! We had the same nonsense with Cork.

20 million is being mentioned as Collins’ release clause.

Les Lawrence wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:50 am

20million,thought he was out of contract. Good move for him if he can get one. Only played 21 games last season and his legs are going

Collins

Can't see a way that an incumbent manager, either VK or anyone else disposes of the club captain who has been here for 10 years, and would be one of the top 4 defenders in the Championship.

Got to say it's quite unnerving, the tweet from Ben's relative suggested he was staying and with that offered a lot of stability and consistency to the transition that we are going to go through.

Still no new manager, apparently no captain and still no idea what is going on.

Looks like 90% of the aqua is leaving or being assisted to leave.

Disaster and it will be like watching a different club...

.if we can actually sign a team, in time!

A bunch of strangers.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 8:24 am

I thought keeping the core together was really important.

And I do find it concerning that the deal with VK is dragging on this much.

You still as confident VK is coming now?

No one has caught that Jack Cork has also not been offered a contract according to the Athletic.

Two massive losses for next season.

On a free transfer Ben Mee would be a steady enough squad player for most of the bottom 6 sides. He's had a lot of protection though playing for us in Dyche's setup.

Leaves a huge hole to fill - not just in terms of the body, but his leadership role. He’s another Mr Burnley FC.

Will be very difficult to find a replacement. If Collins stays he steps up as captain, but for me we need someone with experience to replace Ben, rather than going down the young CB / loan route.

I’m sure Collins isn’t putting confidential contract information on Twitter
If Mee leaves Long and Thomas will be fine

Jamesy wrote: ↑

Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:00 am

You still as confident VK is coming now?

I’ve posted my thoughts on this on the ‘next manager thread’.

I’d like to believe Nixon, that it’s down to work permits / small details of the contract.

But the longer it drags on, the more you wonder if there’s another problem. Other overseas managers this season have been announced ‘subject to work permit approval’ which is a formality. If VK and staff are just down to work permit, why not just announce him?