• Lollipop People

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:25 pm**

For years it was all pretty standard.
Stand at roadside lollipop down by their side, pedestrian approaches and waits, lollipop persons scans the road and raises the lollipop to warn oncoming traffic before making their way to the middle of the road lollipop raised, waves pedestrian across road, thanks waiting traffic and returns to the kerbside.
Now it seams the norm is.
Stand at roadside and either spend 30 seconds talking to the pedestrians with no indication of crossing (ie. Raising lollipop and scanning the road) then just step out lollipop still unraised into oncoming traffic until finally raising the lollipop ( if they can muster the energy) and waving across pedestrian still talking and laughing with them. Or once spotting a pedestrian approach set off to the middle of the road (again not following the lollipop raising routine) with the pedestrian still 5m from the crossing then continue to stand in the middle of the road for minutes on end as new pedestrians slowly approach arround the corner.

Has lollipop school closed and you only need a 30min zoom course to earn your pop now, our local lollipops are atrocious.

I always had respect for them from growing up as a kid on my way to school to getting my first car but lately they just leave me with grumpy old man syndrome

And don’t even get me started on the silly dancing ones!!!

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:37 pm**

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Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:39 pm**

Raise the matter with the school. A Lollipop person should be decisive in movement and not keep the drivers guessing their next move.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:39 pm**

They can be cantankerous.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q9PNoYSKx0A

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:42 pm**

The change I’ve noticed is Crossing patrols used to help people cross once they reached the curb side, now crossing attendants seem to think if pedestrians on the way to crossing, have priority… meaning they can be holding up traffic for people who were still in the playground chatting when the motorist is stopped, rather than stop the traffic twice, wasting drivers time unnecessarily.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:49 pm**

Jeeez you grumpy old gets

It’s women, children and generally elderly crossing a busy road, that’s deemed to be a bit dangerous.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:55 pm**

We had a legendary lollypop lady who have no quarter
A car failed to slow down narrowly missing her
She hurled abuse at driver who stopped
She then using the lollypop as an axe slammed in down on the roof of the mini,offering to give the driver more of the same.Wisely he drove off sharpish

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:56 pm**

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:49 pm
Jeeez you grumpy old gets

It’s women, children and generally elderly crossing a busy road, that’s deemed to be a bit dangerous.

Not a matter of grumpy old gets - I have elderly parents who cannot get up after falling, when I get a call, they can be on the floor until I can travel from ‘Accrington to Rossendale - I do not appreciate being held up so conversations can be concluded before pedestrians deem to cross. How many other people are held up on emergency missions? How many are then travelling faster to make up the lost time? I know I have remind myself getting stopped for speeding will cost more time than the patrol… but how many drivers don’t and travel onwards less safely for the rest of the journey.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:57 pm**

Anyone seen getting fractious or impatient at a school crossing should get a driving ban and be made to write out "I am a cock" 100 times.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:59 pm**

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:57 pm
Anyone seen getting fractious or impatient at a school crossing should get a driving ban and be made to write out "I am a cock" 100 times.

I’m actually laughing here at the thought of someone having this conversation with me, moaning about folk crossing a road ffs

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:01 pm**

First they came for our 99 ice creams, and now they come for our lollipop people.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:02 pm**

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:01 pm
First they came for our 99 ice creams, and now they come for our lollipop people.

That’s a bit flakey

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:04 pm**

Now don't be corny.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:07 pm**

I don’t understand the point of needing a lollipop person on a pedestrian crossing

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:10 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:56 pm
Not a matter of grumpy old gets - I have elderly parents who cannot get up after falling, when I get a call, they can be on the floor until I can travel from ‘Accrington to Rossendale - I do not appreciate being held up so conversations can be concluded before pedestrians deem to cross. How many other people are held up on emergency missions? How many are then travelling faster to make up the lost time? I know I have remind myself getting stopped for speeding will cost more time than the patrol… but how many drivers don’t and travel onwards less safely for the rest of the journey.

It's amazing how everyone in a car is always on a dire mission of mercy rather than just going to Asda.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:12 pm**

Just encountered one but I anticipated and stopped as she was preparing to enter the road.

The vehicle coming the other way despite being a good 30 yards away didn't start slowing so the said LL leapt into the oncoming lane brandishing her pole like a lance!

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:15 pm**

aggi wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:10 pm
It's amazing how everyone in a car is always on a dire mission of mercy rather than just going to Asda.

Not saying every car is… but that is the point, who knows why people are travelling or what their circumstances? I use the car at peak times ONLY when I have too, I’m sure I am not alone.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:15 pm**

Not long now till lollipop men are called Darren

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:20 pm**

The best lollipop man was Kenny in Phoenix Nights. Jackie Chan on the phone for some more paint. Hilarious!

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:23 pm**

I know a lollipop man who only helps people cross from west to east so that they're heading towards Mecca. His supervisor knows about it but can't do anything because the council has a woke majority.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:26 pm**

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:23 pm
I know a lollipop man who only helps people cross from west to east so that they're heading towards Mecca. His supervisor knows about it but can't do anything because the council has a woke majority.

What a complete crock

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:31 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:56 pm
Not a matter of grumpy old gets - I have elderly parents who cannot get up after falling, when I get a call, they can be on the floor until I can travel from ‘Accrington to Rossendale - I do not appreciate being held up so conversations can be concluded before pedestrians deem to cross. How many other people are held up on emergency missions? How many are then travelling faster to make up the lost time? I know I have remind myself getting stopped for speeding will cost more time than the patrol… but how many drivers don’t and travel onwards less safely for the rest of the journey.

How many drivers do this? I'd guess at absolutely none.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:44 pm**

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:31 pm
How many drivers do this? I'd guess at absolutely none.

Well clearly you have not read MY circumstances or are calling me a liar… so how do you expect me to respond to this?
I shall treat it with the contempt it deserves, thanks.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:49 pm**

They make my heart go giddy-up.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:50 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:15 pm
Not saying every car is… but that is the point, who knows why people are travelling or what their circumstances? I use the car at peak times ONLY when I have too, I’m sure I am not alone.

If you're at a school crossing and your that impatient then maybe you should consider using a bus because you obviously shouldn't be driving a car. Some drivers think the world revolves around them and guess what? It doesn't.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:52 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:56 pm
Not a matter of grumpy old gets - I have elderly parents who cannot get up after falling, when I get a call, they can be on the floor until I can travel from ‘Accrington to Rossendale - I do not appreciate being held up so conversations can be concluded before pedestrians deem to cross. How many other people are held up on emergency missions? How many are then travelling faster to make up the lost time? I know I have remind myself getting stopped for speeding will cost more time than the patrol… but how many drivers don’t and travel onwards less safely for the rest of the journey.

I think the answer to the question is very few in reality

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:53 pm**

LeadBelly wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:49 pm
They make my heart go giddy-up.

But is that when they are boy (Millie) or girl (Bad Manners) or both?

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:53 pm**

Stickers wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:25 pm
For years it was all pretty standard.
Stand at roadside lollipop down by their side, pedestrian approaches and waits, lollipop persons scans the road and raises the lollipop to warn oncoming traffic before making their way to the middle of the road lollipop raised, waves pedestrian across road, thanks waiting traffic and returns to the kerbside.
Now it seams the norm is.
Stand at roadside and either spend 30 seconds talking to the pedestrians with no indication of crossing (ie. Raising lollipop and scanning the road) then just step out lollipop still unraised into oncoming traffic until finally raising the lollipop ( if they can muster the energy) and waving across pedestrian still talking and laughing with them. Or once spotting a pedestrian approach set off to the middle of the road (again not following the lollipop raising routine) with the pedestrian still 5m from the crossing then continue to stand in the middle of the road for minutes on end as new pedestrians slowly approach arround the corner.

Has lollipop school closed and you only need a 30min zoom course to earn your pop now, our local lollipops are atrocious.
I always had respect for them from growing up as a kid on my way to school to getting my first car but lately they just leave me with grumpy old man syndrome
And don’t even get me started on the silly dancing ones!!!

Out of interest, how many of C5,000 lollipop people in the UK have you observed to reach your verdict?

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:56 pm**

Venkys4eva wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:50 pm
If you're at a school crossing and your that impatient then maybe you should consider using a bus because you obviously shouldn't be driving a car. Some drivers think the world revolves around them and guess what? It doesn't.

Easy to be high handed when you are not the one reacting to a crisis. Please feel free to read my posts in their entirety before being a smart arse.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:56 pm**

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:23 pm
I know a lollipop man who only helps people cross from west to east so that they're heading towards Mecca. His supervisor knows about it but can't do anything because the council has a woke majority.

I reckon at least one of the people who liked this post did so because they believe it's true.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:03 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:44 pm
Well clearly you have not read MY circumstances or are calling me a liar… so how do you expect me to respond to this?
I shall treat it with the contempt it deserves, thanks.

I did read your circumstances. But you asked how many other drivers in emergency situations are held up by lollipop people by such an extent that they end up speeding for the remainder of their journey to make up the time. I will stick with my answer of none, thanks.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:03 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:56 pm
Easy to be high handed when you are not the one reacting to a crisis. Please feel free to read my posts in their entirety before being a smart arse.

How many times have your parents fallen? Is it always at school time?

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:08 pm**

I'm sure all right-minded people sympathise with your plight elwa.
Nonetheless it's fatuous to suggest that we put the safety of our young schoolchildren on hold to accommodate the zillion to one chance that someone in your unfortunate predicament may be passing in that very short time space..and that the few seconds you may have to wait could be the difference between life and death.

All lollipop people are trained (or should be) in how to respond to the appearance of an emergency vehicle BTW.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:11 pm**

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:03 pm
How many times have your parents fallen? Is it always at school time?

No where did I say it was? It has happened on one occasion… the occasion I was reffering to. My point is I will not be lone in having extremely vulnerable but independent parents. No one but the driver knows their circumstances.

There seems to be a disconnect on here between someone providing an example of why it can be frustrating and other posters drawing the conclusion I am merely being self obsessed. Clearly people don’t want to actually think about any other possible circumstance but their own view.

Again another smart arse who cannot wait to jump in.
I’m bored now, I bow to your superior intellect.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:20 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:11 pm
No where did I say it was? It has happened on one occasion… the occasion I was reffering to. My point is I will not be lone in having extremely vulnerable but independent parents. No one but the driver knows their circumstances.

There seems to be a disconnect on here between someone providing an example of why it can be frustrating and other posters drawing the conclusion I am merely being self obsessed. Clearly people don’t want to actually think about any other possible circumstance but their own view.

Again another smart arse who cannot wait to jump in.
I’m bored now, I bow to your superior intellect.

Nobody is jumping in, you raised the subject.... So once you were held up, for what, 20 seconds? And you are amazed people are questioning your outburst?
Road rage is a far greater problem than lollipop people not doing their job as quick as you would like.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:23 pm**

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:08 pm
I'm sure all right-minded people sympathise with your plight elwa.
Nonetheless it's fatuous to suggest that we put the safety of our young schoolchildren on hold to accommodate the zillion to one chance that someone in your unfortunate predicament may be passing in that very short time space..and that the few seconds you may have to wait could be the difference between life and death.

All lollipop people are trained (or should be) in how to respond to the appearance of an emergency vehicle BTW.

Quite agree. The reference was made to point out that people chatting some way down a path leading to the crossing is not justification for holding up the traffic. On the occasion I am referring to the pedestrians were not even approaching the crossing - they were chatting, and continued to ignore the crossing even once they emerged onto the roadside, while they decided who was going which way and who was crossing… eventually.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:24 pm**

This post takes some licking!

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:25 pm**

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:20 pm
Nobody is jumping in, you raised the subject.... So once you were held up, for what, 20 seconds? And you are amazed people are questioning your outburst?
Road rage is a far greater problem than lollipop people not doing their job as quick as you would like.

Outburst? Why don’t you just make things up? I made a comment… its a message-board. If I was going to have an outburst it wouldn’t be about this I can assure you.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:40 pm**

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:25 pm
Outburst? Why don’t you just make things up? I made a comment… its a message-board. If I was going to have an outburst it wouldn’t be about this I can assure you.

You didn't seem very calm in some of your responses, sorry if outburst was the wrong term

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:57 pm**

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:40 pm
You didn't seem very calm in some of your responses, sorry if outburst was the wrong term

Frustration that some people can only deal in absolutes, nothing more. Certainly not getting worked up, I have far bigger fish to fry. But thanks for the clarification.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 7:11 pm**

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:53 pm
Out of interest, how many of C5,000 lollipop people in the UK have you observed to reach your verdict?

To be honest “Meow”

I did only state my local lollipops

To others my apologies I never intended to condone antisocial driving, but just raise a tongue in cheek appraisal of my observations over the last year of the diminishing consistency from one to another.

Viva the Lollipops (well the good ones anyway)

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:01 pm**

I don't recall seeing a lollipop person for years. And I don't mean that I ran some over.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:23 pm**

Stickers, you seem to offer a sweeping generalisation that all 'lollipop people' operate this way?
They are employed on busy roads and assist more vulnerable members of the population across those roads to schools.
It's a pretty tough job due to the arrogance of a number of some motorists. I'm not aware that they are equipped with body cams but they should be, in order that police could persue abusive motorists/instances of dangerous driving through the Courts.

Posted: **Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:45 pm**

Wow this thread sucks.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:23 am**

Can't believe people complaining about being made to wait a minute or 2 at pedestrian crossings because they deem their trip more important than someone crossing the road safely, who's to say the person crossing isn't going to help an elderly relative or make an important appointment. You're more likely to be held up longer by a learner driver dithering or stalling at a junction, do you have the same problem with them, get over yourself let the person cross and carry on with your trip important or not. To start a post on a forum about waiting at a crossing is sad and you really need to have a word with yourself. whats next level crossings, red lights because believe it or not you spend more time at those waiting than you do at a pedestrian crossings on any given journey unless you're a weirdo that hang around schools in your car.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:55 am**

I sympathise with elwa, I had the same problem with parents falling over and having to dash to them, then I had a brainwave and fitted them with bungee cords
Problem solved.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2022 1:37 pm**

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My Dad does the lollipop at the school he used to work at before he retired. He loves it apart from the odd stroppy driver. Not sure I’d trust my lad with the power of the lollipop though.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:19 pm**

Sorry Pearcey, I thought that was Rolf Harris, not your dad.

Posted: **Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:27 pm**

Claretitus wrote: ↑
Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:19 pm
Sorry Pearcey, I thought that was Rolf Harris, not your dad.

I look like my Dad and a bloke at work calls me Rolf! I like to think I look like Magnum PI obviously.

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