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Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:31 am
by RVclaret
Well, we are on the one week countdown now - exciting.

Of course a few question marks still remain, but I think it’s safe to assume the starting 11 will come from what’s here right now.

I’m going to list what I think will be the 11, using the 4-2-2-2 system that’s been used in pre season.

BPF
Roberts
McNally
Harwood Bellis
Taylor
Cullen
Cork
McNeil
Brownhill
Cornet
Rodriguez

Main question marks: Twine hasn’t trained all week and missed Shrewsbury so I’ve left him out. Cornet hasn’t played a min of pre season friendlies so it will be interesting to see what happens there, for example if he plays tomorrow v Newc. Centre back pairing tough to decide…

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:55 am
by eastcoastclaret
I'm not convinced McNally will start, doesn't look ready to me.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:58 am
by RVclaret
eastcoastclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:55 am
I'm not convinced McNally will start, doesn't look ready to me.
Who would you pair with THB then?

Sounds like both Thomas and Egan-Riley impressed against Shrews.

I just went with McNally as he’s arguably got the most experience out of them, albeit in League One.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:11 am
by Passing Clouds
Your team hopefully RV. But Egan Riley for McNally. Could be close run thing though as Thomas is obviously impressing Kompany

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:25 am
by Newcastleclaret93
RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:31 am
Well, we are on the one week countdown now - exciting.

Of course a few question marks still remain, but I think it’s safe to assume the starting 11 will come from what’s here right now.

I’m going to list what I think will be the 11, using the 4-2-2-2 system that’s been used in pre season.

BPF
Roberts
McNally
Harwood Bellis
Taylor
Cullen
Cork
McNeil
Brownhill
Cornet
Rodriguez

Main question marks: Twine hasn’t trained all week and missed Shrewsbury so I’ve left him out. Cornet hasn’t played a min of pre season friendlies so it will be interesting to see what happens there, for example if he plays tomorrow v Newc. Centre back pairing tough to decide…
I am pretty confident Cornet and McNally won’t start for various reasons.

Interestingly I haven’t seen much of THB in the training vids? Perhaps he’s carrying a knock as well.

I suspect a similar team to what you have put out but with Barnes in place of Cornet and Thomas at the back instead of McNally.

Potentially Riley instead of THB if he’s got a knock.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:27 am
by RVclaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:25 am
I am pretty confident Cornet and McNally won’t start for various reasons.

Interestingly I haven’t seen much of THB in the training vids? Perhaps he’s carrying a knock as well.

I suspect a similar team to what you have put out but with Barnes in place of Cornet and Thomas at the back instead of McNally.

Potentially Riley instead of THB if he’s got a knock.
Yes good points, also not seen THB in training vids, hopefully we find out the team v Newc tomorrow but I wouldn’t count on it. Really hope you aren’t right with the Barnes / Jay partnership, was hoping that wouldn’t be seen at all this season - perhaps Twine instead of Barnes if he’s good to go.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:29 am
by Newcastleclaret93
RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:27 am
Yes good points, also not seen THB in training vids, hopefully we find out the team v Newc tomorrow but I wouldn’t count on it. Really hope you aren’t right with the Barnes / Jay partnership, was hoping that wouldn’t be seen at all this season - perhaps Twine instead of Barnes if he’s good to go.
Yes tbh I am just making the assumption that Twine is injured. I suspect Barnes and Jay partnership will be a last resort. Unless they decide to start Bastien on the right and push Brownhill behind Jay (the twine role).

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:41 am
by Top Claret
What I do hope is that the team isn't packed with newbies, if it's we will get trounced

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:43 am
by RVclaret
Top Claret wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:41 am
What I do hope is that the team isn't packed with newbies, if it's we will get trounced
Worth mentioning only 5 out of Huddersfield's 11 that started at Wembley remain at the club and they also have a new manager, but who's actually never managed a game before.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:45 am
by AGENT_CLARET
Twine isn't injured, there resting him and he's having lighter training sessions because he's finding it to much, the training facilities he's had before was basically a football pitch and gym away from his former club, so for him to be involved with a lower grade of training and still contributing to 33 goals last season is frightening to think what he could achieve once he's fully pre season match fit with us.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:45 am
by eastcoastclaret
RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 6:58 am
Who would you pair with THB then?

Sounds like both Thomas and Egan-Riley impressed against Shrews.

I just went with McNally as he’s arguably got the most experience out of them, albeit in League One.
I think it will be Thomas and Egan-Riley

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:46 am
by Passing Clouds
Let’s face it. We don’t have the foggiest. Fun to speculate but really the only guarantees for me are Cork and Cullen.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:48 am
by Newcastleclaret93
Passing Clouds wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:46 am
Let’s face it. We don’t have the foggiest. Fun to speculate but really the only guarantees for me are Cork and Cullen.
That’s interesting as I actually don’t think cork will feature

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:49 am
by RVclaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:48 am
That’s interesting as I actually don’t think cork will feature
Think he’s a cert at Hudd due to his experience and captaincy. As time progresses I think Brownhill / Bastien will take up that role in CM though.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:50 am
by Passing Clouds
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:48 am
That’s interesting as I actually don’t think cork will feature
Fair enough, but I’ll feel a lot more comfortable with them both in front of our inexperienced CB’s

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:53 am
by taio
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:48 am
That’s interesting as I actually don’t think cork will feature
I imagine and would hope that Cork only doesn't feature if he ends up with a knock. Should be a certainty.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:54 am
by nyclaret
I think Cork is a necessity to start. We need that experience in front of the back 4. Risky game starting 2 new CBs AND 2 new DMs.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:55 am
by Newcastleclaret93
taio wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:53 am
I imagine and would hope that Cork only doesn't feature if he ends up with a knock. Should be a certainty.
Possibly right I just personally think Bastien will start as he seems to fit Kompanys set up really well.

For me Cork and cullen are plying for the same role in the squad. The sitter in front of defence

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:57 am
by Newcastleclaret93
My personal starting eleven would be:

BPF
Roberts, THB, Thomas, Taylor
Bastien, Cullen
McNeil, JBG
Twine (if fit), Jay

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:04 am
by taio
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:55 am
Possibly right I just personally think Bastien will start as he seems to fit Kompanys set up really well.

For me Cork and cullen are plying for the same role in the squad. The sitter in front of defence
Not in a 4222 they're not. Cork is crucial to give us some experience.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:05 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:57 am
My personal starting eleven would be:

BPF
Roberts, THB, Thomas, Taylor
Bastien, Cullen
McNeil, JBG
Twine (if fit), Jay
Shocked you left Brownhill out :D

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:09 am
by RVclaret
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:05 am
Shocked you left Brownhill out :D
For the injured JBG who hasn't played a game for around 7 months...

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:13 am
by IWOODLOVETT
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:57 am
My personal starting eleven would be:

BPF
Roberts, THB, Thomas, Taylor
Bastien, Cullen
McNeil, JBG
Twine (if fit), Jay
I
We’re forgetting Maatsen who I think might play instead of Charlie. Brownhill is a shoe-in to play and the bench will be very interesting.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:16 am
by Newcastleclaret93
claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:05 am
Shocked you left Brownhill out :D
If twines injured I would play him there. Same with JBG.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:17 am
by Newcastleclaret93
IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:13 am
I
We’re forgetting Maatsen who I think might play instead of Charlie. Brownhill is a shoe-in to play and the bench will be very interesting.
I agree but I think first game he will try keep some stability in defence

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:20 am
by yosserhughes
Cork Bastien and Brownhill have to start I don't what formation.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:26 am
by jedi_master
----------------------------BPF
--------------Egan-Riley-----Thomas
Roberts----Cullen-----------Cork------Taylor
-----------Brownhill----------McNeil
------------Rodriguez------Cornet

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:27 am
by tiger76
Honestly haven't got a clue, which is a novelty in itself.

BPF
Roberts Egan-Riley THB Maatsen
Cork Cullen
Brownhill McNeil
Barnes Jay

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:28 am
by nyclaret
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:57 am
My personal starting eleven would be:

BPF
Roberts, THB, Thomas, Taylor
Bastien, Cullen
McNeil, JBG
Twine (if fit), Jay
What did Brownhill do to you Newcastle?

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:36 am
by Newcastleclaret93
nyclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:28 am
What did Brownhill do to you Newcastle?
Nothing at all. I just don’t think the likes of Cullen and Bastien have come to us to sit on the bench.

The amount of games we have, I am pretty sure they will all feature a decent amount.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:41 am
by Granny WeatherWax
Brownhill is going to be one of the key players this season. Close to being the first on the team sheet first me.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:06 am
by Andingle
As the squad stands.
BPF
Roberts , Egan-Riley , Thomas , Taylor
Cullen , Cork
Brownhill , Bastien
Rodriguez, Cornet.
Subs from - Norris , Lowton , Maatsen , McNally , Long McNeill , Gudmundson, Twine, Barnes , Richardson , Tucker

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:08 am
by Lancasterclaret
Brownhill is a shoe in, as is THB

Other than that I couldn't really say with any certainty

The behind closed doors friendly with Newcastle will give us a better idea of the formation and the line up I'd expect

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:10 am
by Newcastleclaret93
Andingle wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:06 am
As the squad stands.
BPF
Roberts , Egan-Riley , Thomas , Taylor
Cullen , Cork
Brownhill , Bastien
Rodriguez, Cornet.
Subs from - Norris , Lowton , Maatsen , McNally , Long McNeill , Gudmundson, Twine, Barnes , Richardson , Tucker
Surely McNeil is first name on the team sheet?

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:11 am
by Boss Hogg
I didn’t think Brownhill was good enough for the PL. He is a very good Championship player. Think he’ll be a very important player for us this year.

Back on topic

BPF
Roberts THB McNally Taylor
Cullen Cork
Bastien Brownhill
McNeil/Twine/Barnes ( depending on fitness/availability)
JRod

I’d like to see Cornet playing but think it’s too much to hope for.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:26 am
by NewClaret
If Cornet is fit, he must start imo. 17% of our seasons games are in August. Good start is not imperative but obviously could shape the season - let’s face it, had he been available for a few more games last season, we might be in a different league!

If he’s here, and we’re paying his £60kpw wages (whatever they are), he should play.

He’s the type of guy who will want to be on the pitch and if he bags a load of goals it can’t hurt his valuation (assuming no release clause) or wages from his perspective. Not to mention that not playing him probably damages our negotiation position.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:27 am
by Andingle
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:10 am
Surely McNeil is first name on the team sheet?
Personally I can't see him starting in the opening game ahead of Brownhill & Bastien.
Possibly he may start in the 10 role instead of Cornet ?

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:28 am
by taio
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:10 am
Surely McNeil is first name on the team sheet?
The same could be said of Cork or Brownhill!

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:34 am
by RVclaret
Andingle wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:27 am
Personally I can't see him starting in the opening game ahead of Brownhill & Bastien.
Possibly he may start in the 10 role instead of Cornet ?
Think you are getting the roles mixed up.

The shape is a 4-4-2 in defence and some form of 4-2-2-2 in attack, but with Cullen dropping into the backline and the full backs pushing really high up, forming some sort of fluid 3-3-2-2.

The two 'wide' players then tuck quite narrow in the space between the lines. For me, McNeil is a shoe in for the inside 10 from the right, while I'd expect Brownhill to operate from the left for now, given his 3 assists at Shrewsbury.

The strikers stay high up but will happily drop deep to link play, there isn't a '10' role as you suggest.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:35 am
by Burnley1989
Andingle wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:27 am
Personally I can't see him starting in the opening game ahead of Brownhill & Bastien.
Possibly he may start in the 10 role instead of Cornet ?
Personally Id be amazed and a little disappointed if McNeil is still at the club and isn't played when available.

I'll trust the process though ;)

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:36 am
by AGENT_CLARET
My team would be

........................BPF

Roberts....THB....Egan-Riley....Taylor

.............Cullen...........Cork

......Brownhill....Bastien.....Mcneil

.......................Cornet

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:39 am
by JohnMac
BPF
Roberts ? Thomas Taylor
? Brownhill Cork McNeil
Cornet
Jay

That would be the core of my selection I haven't a clue about the others

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:52 am
by ClaretTony
BPF
Roberts Egan-Riley Harwood-Bellis Taylor
Cullen Cork
Brownhill McNeil
Rodriguez Barnes

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:55 am
by Granny WeatherWax
BPF
Roberts THB Egan-Riley Taylor
Cullen Cork
McNeil Brownhill Cornet
Jay

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:56 am
by randomclaret2
ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:52 am
BPF
Roberts Egan-Riley Harwood-Bellis Taylor
Cullen Cork
Brownhill McNeil
Rodriguez Barnes
Im the same as you Tony apart from Bastien in instead of McNeil

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:56 am
by RVclaret
Seeing a lot of Egan-Riley in the teams - must say I'm quite excited to see him play.

Huddersfield's star defender last year was Chelsea loanee Levi Colwill, who is also 19 like ER.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:02 am
by Sleeping Cat
very strange not doing a straight forward 4-4-2.

Going off the squad as it is now.

........................BPF
Roberts........Long......H-B........Taylor
.........Brownhill..Cullen..Cork
McNeil..............................Cornet
......................Jay


Gone with Long for his experience. I fear staring a match with a cetnre back pairing with so little experience.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:05 am
by CoolClaret
-------------BPF
Roberts--CJ-THB-Taylor
——---Cullen-------Cork
-----Brownhill-----McNeil
—--Rodriguez------Cornet

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:23 am
by claretandy
CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:05 am
-------------BPF
Roberts--CJ-THB-Taylor
——---Cullen-------Cork
-----Brownhill-----McNeil
—--Rodriguez------Cornet
This.

Re: Team v Huddersfield

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:34 am
by TheFamilyCat
CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:05 am
-------------BPF
Roberts--CJ-THB-Taylor
——---Cullen-------Cork
-----Brownhill-----McNeil
—--Rodriguez------Cornet
We'll **** 'em.