• Team for Luton ?

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:43 pm**

I expect same again but with J Rod in for Costelloe if fit.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:45 pm**

Cornet to play?

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:48 pm**

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:43 pm
I expect same again but with J Rod in for Costelloe if fit.

Not sure anything has been said about Jay and how long he’ll be out

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:49 pm**

Maybe people who actually followed Belgium’s league over the last few years would know better but he doesn’t strike me as a manager who will be set on keeping the same 11 where possible game on game?

Obviously the squad is still a bit light so he might be forced.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:51 pm**

—————————-Muric
——————THB————-Taylor
Roberts—Cullen———-Cork—-Maatsen
—————-Brownhill—Bastien
——————-Barnes——Twine

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:51 pm**

I think I'd probably expect the same again with Benson on the bench if he signs in time.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:55 pm**

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:49 pm
Maybe people who actually followed Belgium’s league over the last few years would know better but he doesn’t strike me as a manager who will be set on keeping the same 11 where possible game on game?

Obviously the squad is still a bit light so he might be forced.

WIth the team having played so well and showed such promise first time out it would surely be daft to change it.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:03 pm**

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:49 pm
Maybe people who actually followed Belgium’s league over the last few years would know better but he doesn’t strike me as a manager who will be set on keeping the same 11 where possible game on game?

Obviously the squad is still a bit light so he might be forced.

My thought too. I think we will see changes from game to game, more so when we have midweek games.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:11 pm**

Boss Hogg wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:43 pm
I expect same again but with J Rod in for Costelloe if fit.

Can't see J Rod playing the Costelloe role in this formation, (even when fit).

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:13 pm**

I hope Costello keeps his place, to be honest. But I can see Twine coming in for him.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:18 pm**

Costelloe couldn't kick a ball. Literally.

Maybe give him another game to see how it works out but if it's the same again, he needs dropping.

Probably ruffle a few feathers and have people bleating about his age but the fact is, we can't carry dead weight if we want back up.

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:19 pm**

Maybe Vitinho for Costelloe; though I thought Costelloe did very well against Huddersfield.
I really don't see Barnes and Rodriguez together

Posted: **Wed Aug 03, 2022 11:04 pm**

I’d like to see Vininho for Costelloe & Cornet for Barnes. Have a feeling it’ll be the same starting 11 though.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:59 am**

Will depend if Jay is fit. Didn’t see him in the training vid posted yesterday and i believe he’s got a muscle injury (quad).

Otherwise, same team for me.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:35 am**

Think it’ll be the same team but could see us going 3 at the back to add some extra height and counteract the set piece threat. Maybe McNally in for Costelloe

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:43 am**

Vitinho start instead of Costello would be my only change.

If Jay is fit bring him on for last 20mins for Ash.
Dara last 20 for Vitinho.

I'd give Benson the last 5 mins for anybody, just let him get the feel of the pitch

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:59 am**

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:18 pm
Costelloe couldn't kick a ball. Literally.

Maybe give him another game to see how it works out but if it's the same again, he needs dropping.

Probably ruffle a few feathers and have people bleating about his age but the fact is, we can't carry dead weight if we want back up.

Clearly you just focused on his 2 misses and didn’t notice the otherwise incredibly strong game he had coming in off the right.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:59 am**

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:18 pm
Costelloe couldn't kick a ball. Literally.
Maybe give him another game to see how it works out but if it's the same again, he needs dropping.
Probably ruffle a few feathers and have people bleating about his age but the fact is, we can't carry dead weight if we want back up.

So he misses a half chance and a no chance and he’s dead weight fecking grow up.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:01 am**

CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:59 am
Clearly you just focused on his 2 misses and didn’t notice the otherwise incredibly strong game he had coming in off the right.

Madness isn’t it. I wonder if the poster saw £60m man Erling Haaland’s miss at the weekend. Is he a dead weight too?

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:07 am**

tarkys_ears wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:18 pm
Costelloe couldn't kick a ball. Literally.

Maybe give him another game to see how it works out but if it's the same again, he needs dropping.

Probably ruffle a few feathers and have people bleating about his age but the fact is, we can't carry dead weight if we want back up.

You need to rewatch that game.

He played a beautiful through ball for Barnes but he fluffed his shot.

He also started at least three moves by turning away from his man and passing it to Cullen who played through to Maatsen on the break.

He had a very promising game. Unfortunately for the lad he missed one very good chance and one very hard chance

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:18 am**

Crikey! Costelloe misses a couple of chances, and now he's being labelled a dead weight, how on earth are our young players going to develop if they are given one or two games to prove their worth.

Yes he missed those chances, but all players miss gilt edged chances, Cornet, Jay, Wood and Wout last season come to mind just from a Burnley perspective.

Costelloe showed enough to suggest he'll be a useful squad member over the course of a long tough season, and for his sake I hope he bags one soon.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:36 am**

Back to the question

Muric
Roberts, THB, Taylor, Maatsen
Cork, Cullen
Costelloe Bastien
Brownhill Twine

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:36 am**

If Jay still injured ( I’m sure he is ) I’d imagine Barnes stays in and Twine for Costello . It’s gonna be a very fluid starting XI this season and will be good to also have a decent bench as the squad starts to fully gel

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:51 am**

I'd forgot about Twine

I need to get my head around this squad. A nice problem to have though.

There has to be a place on the pitch for the lad, he looked really good when he came on. Personally I'd play him instead of Ash, but if VK wants the battering ram to soften them up, then I'd start him instead of Bastien, and give Bastien the last 20 mins as in Dara for Vitinho.

The gut feeling is VK won't have a settled. or prefered starting XI, he'll just utilise the squad, so that everyone gets a chance, and everyone stays fresh. If that's true then it's going to be very difficult to predict any of our starting lineups.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:59 am**

Costello did pretty well, but did look rather green (for obvious reasons) and did miss a couple of really good opportunities. He may be disappointed with his debut and if I was VK I might seriously think of keeping him in the starting line up rather than risk denting his confidence by singling him out and dropping him.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:35 am**

Don’t get this Costelloe bashing. I personally thought he had a good game until he ran out of steam. He looked one of our more physical players aswell which surprised me.

There’s more than enough to suggest the young lad will be a very useful squad player this season.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:00 am**

As for people “ Costello bashing “? I can only see one post where someone didn’t approve .

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:01 am**

Shaggy wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:35 am
Don’t get this Costelloe bashing. I personally thought he had a good game until he ran out of steam. He looked one of our more physical players aswell which surprised me.

There’s more than enough to suggest the young lad will be a very useful squad player this season.

TBF it's one troll poster who is slating him, he did very well to say it was his debut and he was only playing due to a late injury to Jay Rod.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:02 am**

I think Costelloe played well.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:27 am**

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:51 pm
—————————-Muric
——————THB————-Taylor
Roberts—Cullen———-Cork—-Maatsen
—————-Brownhill—Bastien
——————-Barnes——Twine

This.

Though Costelloe was excellent, I think Twine offers a greater goal threat.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:52 am**

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:51 pm
—————————-Muric
——————THB————-Taylor
Roberts—Cullen———-Cork—-Maatsen
—————-Brownhill—Bastien
——————-Barnes——Twine

Same team but wouldn't play Twine as one of the two but as a deep number 10.

Muric
THB————-Taylor
Roberts—Cullen———-Cork—-Maatsen
Brownhill—Bastien
Twine
Barnes

Depends on Luton and where their strengths lie on whether Costelloe plays but watching the game against Huddersfield I'm just not sure how a Jay Rod fits in because there is just no pace up front. Saying that who knows might work really well...!

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:02 pm**

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:51 pm
—————————-Muric
——————THB————-Taylor
Roberts—Cullen———-Cork—-Maatsen
—————-Brownhill—Bastien
——————-Barnes——Twine

Ditto

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:26 pm**

Surely in this system Twine will play off the left meaning he would replace Bastien and Costelloe must surely continue on the right until Benson is bedded in. Barnes the perfect hold up man but we are relying on both Twine and Costelloe to find their shooting boots early. No need for 4 midfielders at home and I don’t ever want a Burnley team playing three at the back again at home!

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:28 pm**

Now ,at last , the bench is an integral part of the squad. We can expect tactical changes much more often.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 12:56 pm**

Twine for Costelloe.

Costelloe did incredibly well BTW, and will have a great career it would seem, hopefully with us. Was impressive.

UTC

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:06 pm**

will depend on what formation VK plays, not convinced it's going to be the same but it most likely is.

I think largely same team but with Twine and our Brazilian Boy starting, Benson will be on the bench and come on at some point depending on how we're playing and what the score is.

I do think VK is very much a follower of Pep and you don't need an out and out striker, so would not be surprised if Barnes and JRod don't start

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:07 pm**

I heard that Jay has a small tear in his quad so could be a few games before we see him

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:12 pm**

Twine for Costello’s for me. Although Costello’s played well against Huddersfield, I believe that Twine has better link-up play, forward passing ability, vision, and free kicks.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 1:29 pm**

Nice to not have an automatic team selection. Costelloe did enough to keep his place. He tired as expected around the hour mark. Adds pace to our team. Keeper and back 4 will be same. As will Barnes Cork and Cullen. Brownhill looked very strong so only possible change for me is Twine for Bastien but more likely to keep same starting XI barring injuries or signings

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:05 pm**

Luton play a 3-5-2 with at least one pacy wing back and I guess the other one will be quite mobile as well.

Pulling back Cullen and Twine will mean the 4-2-2-1-1 will become a 4-5-1 when we are defending and pushing them up will lead to a 2-1-5-2 when we are attacking.

I think it will be somewhat of a midfield battle so Roberts and Maatsen will have a pivotal role of providing width.

I see no chance that Costelloe plays if Twine is fit but then again what do I know.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:29 pm**

Does Twine prefer to play on the left?

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:36 pm**

Bit of a paradox here - in many ways Luton are like us under Dyche in the PL against the big boys:

An underdog ‘sum of the parts’, organised team that will try and upset/unsettle the more attack/possession based favourite.

So that being said , I’m a bit concerned with playing an undersized centrehalf in Taylor their two bruises up front - Adebayo & Morris that are 6ft4 & 6ft2 respectively.

There’s be nothing worse than dominating, scoring two goals say but end up drawing by conceding two goals from set pieces or what have you by being a bit bullied.

Taking that into consideration I’d be inclined to start with:

—————————-Muric
——————THB————-Long
Roberts—Cullen———-Cork—-Maatsen
—————-Brownhill—Bastien
——————-Barnes——Twine

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:45 pm**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:36 pm
Bit of a paradox here - in many ways Luton are like us under Dyche in the PL against the big boys:

An underdog ‘sum of the parts’, organised team that will try and upset/unsettle the more attack/possession based favourite.

So that being said , I’m a bit concerned with playing an undersized centrehalf in Taylor their two bruises up front - Adebayo & Morris that are 6ft4 & 6ft2 respectively.

There’s be nothing worse than dominating, scoring two goals say but end up drawing by conceding two goals from set pieces or what have you by being a bit bullied.

Taking that into consideration I’d be inclined to start with:

—————————-Muric
——————THB————-Long
Roberts—Cullen———-Cork—-Maatsen
—————-Brownhill—Bastien
——————-Barnes——Twine

i'm interested in why you think Long is less likely to be bullied than Taylor is.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:46 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:45 pm
i'm interested in why you think Long is less likely to be bullied than Taylor is.

Because he’s significantly taller and better in the air?

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:48 pm**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:46 pm
Because he’s significantly taller and better in the air?

So will they change their tactics because he is taller?

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:51 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:48 pm
So will they change their tactics because he is taller?

You know how when city and United came to the turf they tended to plug in their more ‘physical’ players because they knew we liked to play off 2nd ball?

Infamously Mourinho did it with Fellaini and totally nullified our threat.

They play direct off their big men to try and get a foothold up the pitch.

No i don’t think they’d suddenly start passing us off the pitch playing Kev Long or another centre half for example.

It’s to nullify their greatest chance of getting a result

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:53 pm**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:51 pm
You know how when city and United came to the turf they tended to plug in their more ‘physical’ players because they knew we liked to play off 2nd ball?

Infamously Mourinho did it with Fellaini and totally nullified our threat.

They play direct off their big men to try and get a foothold up the pitch.

No i don’t think they’d suddenly start passing us off the pitch playing Kev Long or another centre half for example.

It’s to nullify their greatest chance of getting a result

I think our best chance of nullifying their physical threat is by keeping the ball.
In that respect Taylor is the better option as he can see a pass.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:58 pm**

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:53 pm
I think our best chance of nullifying their physical threat is by keeping the ball.
In that respect Taylor is the better option as he can see a pass.

Well that’s obviously what it comes down to but we aren’t going to keep the ball for the entire 90 and they’ll look to get the ball forward quickly and directly… suddenly you’ve got a what 5ft10 Chaz trying to rise above a 6ft4 lad to win a defensive header? That’s how they’d get a foothold in the game and get up the pitch (and in a position to create chances)

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:06 pm**

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:58 pm
Well that’s obviously what it comes down to but we aren’t going to keep the ball for the entire 90 and they’ll look to get the ball forward quickly and directly… suddenly you’ve got a what 5ft10 Chaz trying to rise above a 6ft4 lad to win a defensive header? That’s how they’d get a foothold in the game and get up the pitch (and in a position to create chances)

Taylor is bigger than what you think, easily over 6 foot, bigger than Mee or Harwood-Bellis.

Posted: **Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:11 pm**

claretandy wrote: ↑
Thu Aug 04, 2022 6:06 pm
Taylor is bigger than what you think, easily over 6 foot, bigger than Mee or Harwood-Bellis.

I didn’t think he was bigger than Harwood-Bellis?

I’ve seen him in person and didn’t think he was super tall - ok maybe taller than Mee but I don’t think aerially was good as him.

Perhaps I’m wrong on that but that’s still my line of thinking.

Playing opposition like that would be bread and butter for Long.

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