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The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:09 pm
by Vegas Claret
Pretty easy day for Luton, they knew we didn't have anyone up top who could offer anything in behind and shut the channels down well too. A speedy striker and I think we win that today. Not too disappointing though, they were very decent and we didn't turn up for 45 mins yet still were full value for a point.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:10 pm
by Pickles
Thought we were the better team. A striker would help though, definitely. And the way our summer is going, pretty confident of bringing one in.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:11 pm
by Vino blanco
I said before the window opened we need two strikers with technique and pace to replace Barnes and Jayrod.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:12 pm
by Pickles
Fancy Rodriguez to be a bit better than Barnes this season. But yes.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:12 pm
by spt_claret
If we start Benson and Vitinho I think we win that- it's what I wanted from the start. Setting up so narrow without our quickest players played into their hands entirely, when we changed it second half we came alive but for me the second sub was too late.
Twine being injured was also a big absence I think he would have pulled their defence out of position very effectively, although Barnes put in a decent shift today to be fair.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:22 pm
by kentonclaret
We have needed a striker who could regularly hit the back of the net for the past 2 PL seasons regardless of how speedy they are.
Sitting in the bottom 3 for goals scored in those 2 seasons should have made that a priority.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:25 pm
by RVclaret
Easily the better team. Missed having Twine available. And yes agree quite clear we need a striker or two.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:32 pm
by NewClaret
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:25 pm
Easily the better team. Missed having Twine available. And yes agree quite clear we need a striker or two.
Heard he’s out for 3-4 weeks.
Have to say it’s frustrating we’re still lacking a striker after 2 seasons in the Prem, having loaned one early in the window and just sold another. Really needs sorting out this week.
Otherwise, good performance that we’d be purring over were it not for the early nerves & poor start.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:33 pm
by taio
I haven't come across anyone who doesn't think a striker should be our priority.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:34 pm
by NewClaret
taio wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:33 pm
I haven't come across anyone who doesn't think a striker should be our priority.
We should t have let Weghorst go until we found one imo. Or Cornet. Hopefully some movement on that very imminently.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:36 pm
by taio
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:34 pm
We should t have let Weghorst go until we found one imo. Or Cornet. Hopefully some movement on that very imminently.
No choice on either of those
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:37 pm
by Pickles
A mention of Weghorst on a thread titled "The need for a speedy striker"... He was that slow that when I heard Besiktas were chasing him I thought they'd lap him.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:42 pm
by RVclaret
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:32 pm
Heard he’s out for 3-4 weeks.
Have to say it’s frustrating we’re still lacking a striker after 2 seasons in the Prem, having loaned one early in the window and just sold another. Really needs sorting out this week.
Otherwise, good performance that we’d be purring over were it not for the early nerves & poor start.
Yea saw that too.
Agree on the rest - I’m hoping Kompany has something up his sleeve, given the lack of links.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:45 pm
by DCWat
Has anyone actually seen much of Delap to know what sort of striker he is? Well rated so I hear but would he be the answer, assuming there is an interest and Stoke isn’t nailed on?
For me, I’d rather we look at a permanent deal for a striker, otherwise next summer it’ll be at least two needed, with this presumably being Barnes’ last season.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:47 pm
by RVclaret
DCWat wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:45 pm
Has anyone actually seen much of Delap to know what sort of striker he is? Well rated so I hear but would he be the answer, assuming there is an interest and Stoke isn’t nailed on?
For me, I’d rather we look at a permanent deal for a striker, otherwise next summer it’ll be at least two needed, with this presumably being Barnes’ last season.
Agree DC, I think this is why we dropped our interest in Delap, as they want a permanent signing in that role now we have the available cash. I’m sure Kompany knows this is a priority now.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:48 pm
by NewClaret
taio wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:36 pm
No choice on either of those
Surely we at least had a choice on when we loaned WW? Maybe less so when Cornet’s clause was triggered.
But my point is more that WW has been gone weeks and we’ve known all summer that Cornet would be heading the same way, yet haven’t sorted it. A frustrating one in an otherwise very good summer.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:49 pm
by Vegas Claret
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:48 pm
Surely we at least had a choice on when we loaned WW? Maybe less so when Cornet’s clause was triggered.
But my point is more that WW has been gone weeks and we’ve known all summer that Cornet would be heading the same way, yet haven’t sorted it. A frustrating one in an otherwise very good summer.
by loaning him out so early we've probably saved 3-500K in wages just for him
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:51 pm
by lrac
Or just wait and trust the manager
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:57 pm
by DCWat
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:48 pm
Surely we at least had a choice on when we loaned WW? Maybe less so when Cornet’s clause was triggered.
But my point is more that WW has been gone weeks and we’ve known all summer that Cornet would be heading the same way, yet haven’t sorted it. A frustrating one in an otherwise very good summer.
I could be wrong but I think it may have been better to get his attitude out of the club as quickly as possible.
Keep him until we have a replacement and he’d likely have injured himself tripping over his bottom lip.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:57 pm
by NewClaret
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:42 pm
Yea saw that too.
Agree on the rest - I’m hoping Kompany has something up his sleeve, given the lack of links.
Have the club confirmed it? Haven’t seen anything.
I’m hoping whatever it is, it’s put in to play quickly.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:57 pm
by gawthorpe_view
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:48 pm
Surely we at least had a choice on when we loaned WW? Maybe less so when Cornet’s clause was triggered.
But my point is more that WW has been gone weeks and we’ve known all summer that Cornet would be heading the same way, yet haven’t sorted it. A frustrating one in an otherwise very good summer.
Wasn't it in his contract that he'd be allowed out on loan if we were relegated?
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:58 pm
by NewClaret
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:49 pm
by loaning him out so early we've probably saved 3-500K in wages just for him
Should’ve put it towards a replacement then!!
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:58 pm
by Top Claret
Those Luton defenders would have made mince meat of Cornet if he had have played, he certainly wouldn't have come our for the 2nd half.
We need 2strikers and they have to be tall, fast and powerful
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:02 pm
by Vegas Claret
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:58 pm
Should’ve put it towards a replacement then!!
we will. 99.9% of the fanbase has called for patience, guessing you are in the .1% ? Give them time mate, we'll be decent
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:05 pm
by joey13
Top Claret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:58 pm
Those Luton defenders would have made mince meat of Cornet if he had have played, he certainly wouldn't have come our for the 2nd half.
We need 2strikers and they have to be tall, fast and powerful
Go on then , I’ll make it easy just name one
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:07 pm
by NewClaret
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:02 pm
we will. 99.9% of the fanbase has called for patience, guessing you are in the .1% ? Give them time mate, we'll be decent
I’m patient with the lads on the pitch. And I agree they will sort it out. I just think they need to address an area they’ve known will be a challenge all summer, an area where we’ve let two players go, with more urgency.
Although tbh I’m not sure it’d have made much difference today. Imo we just weren’t good enough in attacking quickly, with purpose, breaking the lines or making runs in to the box. Don’t think a striker solves those points.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:17 pm
by Vegas Claret
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:07 pm
I’m patient with the lads on the pitch. And I agree they will sort it out. I just think they need to address an area they’ve known will be a challenge all summer, an area where we’ve let two players go, with more urgency.
Although tbh I’m not sure it’d have made much difference today. Imo we just weren’t good enough in attacking quickly, with purpose, breaking the lines or making runs in to the box. Don’t think a striker solves those points.
yep looked slow especially in the first half. Strikers are the hardest to bring in, not many decent about and they cost the most - we clearly need one
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:17 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Doesn't have to be particularly speedy, just more mobile and skilful than Barnes is.
Then again the best pass in around the box today was made by Barnes.
I'd be getting those away tickets sharpish, because I think we'll see a lot more of what we saw today at home this season.
Early days like, but that Muric is going to keep the St John's Ambulance guys busy this season. Defibrillator anyone?
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:19 pm
by JohnDearyMe
Hopefully this is going to be like the Championship season when we started off with Vossen up top but fairly quickly switched it up
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:21 pm
by RVclaret
Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:17 pm
Early days like, but that Muric is going to keep the St John's Ambulance guys busy this season. Defibrillator anyone?
I actually thought he was excellent today. His distribution is a big part of what allows us to dominate the ball. Better than I thought he’d be so far.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:24 pm
by NewClaret
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:17 pm
yep looked slow especially in the first half. Strikers are the hardest to bring in, not many decent about and they cost the most - we clearly need one
Agree, which is why I’m surprised we haven’t loaned one for that reason.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:28 pm
by CaptainKirk
Where would the Club be without all these resident experts?
We need a striker - no **** Sherlocks!!!
Hope the Manager is reading this then he will know.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:28 pm
by NewClaret
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:21 pm
I actually thought he was excellent today. His distribution is a big part of what allows us to dominate the ball. Better than I thought he’d be so far.
I reckon they’d do a great line in Burnley fists in the club shop this season, judging by how many I saw in mouths throughout the match
I thought Muric was outstanding today.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:29 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:21 pm
I actually thought he was excellent today. His distribution is a big part of what allows us to dominate the ball. Better than I thought he’d be so far.
He didn't do much wrong and his distribution is good.
But I don't like my goalkeeper (clue's in the name

) tackling a forward 40 yards out of the goal he's keeping.

Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:31 pm
by NewClaret
Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:29 pm
He didn't do much wrong and his distribution is good.
But I don't like my goalkeeper (clue's in the name

) tackling a forward 40 yards out of the goal he's keeping.
It’s gonna be a fun ride
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:31 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:21 pm
I actually thought he was excellent today. His distribution is a big part of what allows us to dominate the ball. Better than I thought he’d be so far.
He was great today.
Allows us to play the possession based football Kompany wants. Not many keepers are as good as him at playing it from the back.
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:33 pm
by Top Claret
joey13 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:05 pm
Go on then , I’ll make it easy just name one
Wouldn't have a clue that's Vks job
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:34 pm
by Top Claret
Goal keeper is good with his feet but definitely as a mistake or two in him
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:00 pm
by Tribesmen
Yep a fox in the box and we would have won today . Hey we will get someone just have to wait and see .
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:07 pm
by Vegas Claret
Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 6:17 pm
Doesn't have to be particularly speedy, just more mobile and skilful than Barnes is.
Then again the best pass in around the box today was made by Barnes.
I'd be getting those away tickets sharpish, because I think we'll see a lot more of what we saw today at home this season.
Early days like, but that Muric is going to keep the St John's Ambulance guys busy this season. Defibrillator anyone?
if we have someone with real pace then Luton can't defend as far up as they did, it enabled them to close the midfield down far more quickly and be compact. We need the option of pace through the middle then teams can't do it
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:07 pm
by warksclaret
VK is very bright and having seen Barnes play in the pre seasons and the first two games will appreciate we need a striker. What was Barnes last year-one goal, and that was a penalty
Re: The need for a speedy striker
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:39 am
by NRC
taio wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 5:33 pm
I haven't come across anyone who doesn't think a striker should be our priority.
Well personally I was OK if we had retained Cornet. If you watch the Huddersfield game again there were multiple occasions where we had two or three runners in the channels waiting on the through ball from a midfielder in possession. Any of this connect and they’re through on goal. We don’t need to be thinking this in traditional terms of a striker.
Today this was lacking, but it was there last week. I’m more interested in an Ings-type player than a younger Barnes/Rodrigues