Condition unknown after being stabbed in the neck by an attacker,while on stage at a literary festival.

The Fatwa has never been cancelled and I'm pretty sure the top man in Iran had his Twitter account suspended the other year for banging on about Rushdie and the Fatwa

Cranks

Terrible.

Wrote The Best Dreams - I still have it

a terrible indictment of modern society when social media have numerous people celebrating his attack.
The fact that books like his can no longer be written says a lot about how cowed we have become as a society.
Freedom of speech should be to the fore of every decent country. Apathy and fear and legislation is the new order it seems.

Those people should be named, shamed and where possible deported.

Abolutely horrifying. Stop the World I want to get off.

Well you talk **** you get the consequences and I m not on about salman

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:57 pm

a terrible indictment of modern society when social media have numerous people celebrating his attack.
The fact that books like his can no longer be written says a lot about how cowed we have become as a society.
Freedom of speech should be to the fore of every decent country. Apathy and fear and legislation is the new order it seems.

Agreed 100%.
There are no clear indications that "the powers that be" will change course and defend free speech (note the recent Hampshire police (several descending on his home) confrontation with a veteran for a jokey tweet involving the LGBTetc flag).
It seems to be a mixture of cowardice and loss of confidence/belief in the "western way of life" that has brought our society much progress over recent centuries.

Crackpots

Keep fighting Salman, they were never going to give up on the fatwa were they?

Wile E Coyote wrote: ↑

Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:57 pm

a terrible indictment of modern society when social media have numerous people celebrating his attack.
The fact that books like his can no longer be written says a lot about how cowed we have become as a society.
Freedom of speech should be to the fore of every decent country. Apathy and fear and legislation is the new order it seems.

Whackjobs all over the world. I watched an interview with Michael Palin last year, and he said the Life of Brian wouldn't be made in today's world. Apparently, they got pelters for it at the time, but it didn't escalate into violence or death. Like most decent people, I no truck with religious bigots and nutters, no matter what the faith is they claim to follow. We should have put this behind us centuries ago.

i doubt the boy who attacked salman has ever read the satanic verses.

i doubt he's ever read much beyond religious dogma.

all that fuss over nothing.

Idiotic but no worse than attacking someone for supporting a different football team.

Religion of peace my backside...

And not a mention from the said religion about the children in rochdale, rotherham and other places eh?

The belief systems for most if not all religions are peaceful. It has always been misunderstandings of those beliefs that make people with mental health issues do wrong things

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:31 pm

The belief systems for most if not all religions are peaceful. It has always been misunderstandings of those beliefs that make people with mental health issues do wrong things

I don't think there has been any misunderstanding here. Nor do I think he necessarily has mental health issues.

This chap was probably trying to carry out the assassination ordered by the leader of Iran. Indeed, he was possibly trying to claim the reward offered by the Ayatollah.

2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:43 pm

I don't think there has been any misunderstanding here. Nor do I think he necessarily has mental health issues.

This chap was probably trying to carry out the assassination ordered by the leader of Iran. Indeed, he was possibly trying to claim the reward offered by the Ayatollah.

I stand by my statement but you need to understand that those who follow those who misunderstand the religion are going to do the bad things. The person with the knife may well be (in their own mind) perfectly sane, but their belief in what they are told by others is flawed and as a result of the misunderstanding and likely mental illness.

Zlatan wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:31 pm

The belief systems for most if not all religions are peaceful. It has always been misunderstandings of those beliefs that make people with mental health issues do wrong things

I’d say this is fundamentally a false understanding of religion. You only need to look at the texts. I could go on…
Anyway I’ll get this in before the thread is pulled. There’s a good reason why threads on religion are banned!

bobinho wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 12:22 am

Those people should be named, shamed and where possible deported.

This country refuses to deport child rapists so no chance of deportation for people celebrating this cowardly attack.

It needs sorting in a fair justice system dictated by the citizens in that country without outside interference, people need involving & asking for input & that should apply in every country.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:50 pm

It needs sorting in a fair justice system dictated by the citizens in that country without outside interference, people need involving & asking for input & that should apply in every country.

All the classics getting an airing tonight.

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:53 pm

All the classics getting an airing tonight.

People should have a right to decide.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:54 pm

People should have a right to decide.

No they shouldn’t, it’s truly idiotic. Never mind, have whatever warped view you want.

The wonderful peace loving world of Islam.

Not Satanic at all.

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:58 pm

No they shouldn’t, it’s truly idiotic. Never mind, have whatever warped view you want.

Whether we agree or disagree with peoples decisions people should have a right to make a decision that affects them. People should be able to vote on criminal punishments in terms of sentencing when guilts been established.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:53 pm

Whether we agree or disagree with peoples decisions people should have a right to make a decision that affects them. People should be able to vote on criminal punishments in terms of sentencing when guilts been established.

Whilst I’m a big fan of promoting your “running man” style game show to replace X Factor you are a perfect example of why the public shouldn’t decide.

As for the guy who committed this crime, absolute coward.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:53 pm

Whether we agree or disagree with peoples decisions people should have a right to make a decision that affects them. People should be able to vote on criminal punishments in terms of sentencing when guilts been established.

A public vote on sentencing!?

Bordeaux’s Running Man description is a very apt comparison to such a suggestion.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:58 pm

Whilst I’m a big fan of promoting your “running man” style game show to replace X Factor you are a perfect example of why the public shouldn’t decide.

As for the guy who committed this crime, absolute coward.

Nothing that sensational sorry to disappoint, the whole population should have a say everybody from all different backgrounds within the UK, a respectful discretional piece of paper with a box to tick with choices, we get enough political bumf at the time of elections so cost shouldn’t be a issue. Involve the people that pay for the decision makers.

FFS, why is this melt allowed to post this drivel on every thread?

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:07 pm

FFS, why is this melt allowed to post this drivel on every thread?

You don’t agree with it say why? Explain my reasoning as faulty.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:09 pm

You don’t agree with it say why? Explain my reasoning as faulty.

So you knew who I was referring to as a melt then…

I’m not explaining anything to you. No offence (actually I don’t care) but you’re a pig ignorant idiot. Good evening.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:07 pm

FFS, why is this melt allowed to post this drivel on every thread?

Because there's not an Islamic or sandal wearing mentalist willing to try and stab him to death.

Freedom, as a Jock would say.

That’s very constructive thanks for answering the question you couldn’t clearly.

People shouldn’t rush to judge here. After all, the BBC, no less, are reporting that “no motive has yet be confirmed.”

So it could very easily be that Salman owed the poor guy a tenner and was refusing to pay it back. Or something.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:13 pm

Because there's not an Islamic or sandal wearing mentalist willing to try and stab him to death.

Freedom, as a Jock would say.

Classic. Love your postings from behind the sofa after a few.
Love it.

Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:21 pm

Classic. Love your postings from behind the sofa after a few.
Love it.

I don't have a sofa, but what I do have is a Panzerkampfwagen from where I neutralise sad sandal wearing stalkers.

Love it too.

Love it. Absolutely love it.

Keep being brave my man. One step at a time.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Aug 13, 2022 10:06 pm

Nothing that sensational sorry to disappoint, the whole population should have a say everybody from all different backgrounds within the UK, a respectful discretional piece of paper with a box to tick with choices, we get enough political bumf at the time of elections so cost shouldn’t be a issue. Involve the people that pay for the decision makers.

In your previous post you said people should have say on decisions that affect them. So presumably you mean the victims and their loved ones having a say on the sentencing?

But here you're saying it should be the entire general public that gets to vote. So which is it?

Also, which cases should the public be voting on? Are we supposed to vote on every criminal case in the country? Because we're all pretty busy, like.

I suspect you haven't really thought this through or you're just posting complete nonsense in order to get a reaction from people.

I think you're giving him far too much credit. He posts illogical nonsense, that's it, here's no agenda behind it.

JohnMcGreal wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:55 am

In your previous post you said people should have say on decisions that affect them. So presumably you mean the victims and their loved ones having a say on the sentencing?

But here you're saying it should be the entire general public that gets to vote. So which is it?

Also, which cases should the public be voting on? Are we supposed to vote on every criminal case in the country? Because we're all pretty busy, like.

I suspect you haven't really thought this through or you're just posting complete nonsense in order to get a reaction from people.

I've always maintained murder (really serious crimes) & not every criminal case, it shows clearly you haven't read what I've posted previously & it has been thought through, by all means disagree but I'd appreciate it if you didn't make things up to discredit my argument. People deserve a right to a say they don't deserve as British taxpayers funding MOJ when other easy solutions exist.

So judgement on murder and which other "serious" crimes would you feel entitled to preside over?

evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:24 am

So judgement on murder and which other "serious" crimes would you feel entitled to preside over?

Standing in JML…?

The attacker has denied attempted murder

Was it Moe Sizlack?

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:22 am

I've always maintained murder (really serious crimes) & not every criminal case, it shows clearly you haven't read what I've posted previously & it has been thought through, by all means disagree but I'd appreciate it if you didn't make things up to discredit my argument. People deserve a right to a say they don't deserve as British taxpayers funding MOJ when other easy solutions exist.

Isn't the crime being discussed here tweeting? Is that a serious enough crime to go to the public vote?

Not sure why people are responding to Jakub

This is a person who once said he'd like a spin the wheel style system to determine what punishment is meted out.

The blokes a loon...