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The Blackpool players lunge looks a lot worse from the side view that most of us will have seen in the ground live.
I was furios at the time with him and expected a red.
The video that is being pedalled round makes it look like a simple trip.
I for one is glad Maatsen reacted the way he did.
This team needs to start looking after itself, as we have watched the team get kicked everywhere.
The refs aren't protecting them so they have to let the opposition know they won't just sit there and take it.
I was furios at the time with him and expected a red.
The video that is being pedalled round makes it look like a simple trip.
I for one is glad Maatsen reacted the way he did.
This team needs to start looking after itself, as we have watched the team get kicked everywhere.
The refs aren't protecting them so they have to let the opposition know they won't just sit there and take it.
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Yeah, it's great when we get players suspendedQuickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:03 amI for one is glad Maatsen reacted the way he did.
This team needs to start looking after itself, as we have watched the team get kicked everywhere.
The refs aren't protecting them so they have to let the opposition know they won't just sit there and take it.
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Benson got hacked down at Watford and hasn't contributed much for 3 games either.
In a Dyche side I would agree not to chance getting sent off, but his team mates would have stuck up for him.
We simply can't get a rep for being soft.
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You really think that's why Benson hasn't contributed?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 10:16 amBenson got hacked down at Watford and hasn't contributed much for 3 games either.
In a Dyche side I would agree not to chance getting sent off, but his team mates would have stuck up for him.
We simply can't get a rep for being soft.
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Furthermore, a footballer complaining about being kicked is like the captain of a ship complaining about the sea.
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Blackpool have appealed the red card for their lad
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It was probably the most idiotic thing that I have seen from a Burnley player since Akinbyi's debut. We can't allow players to behave like that.
Had he not reacted as he did we would have (probably) had a man advantage for the rest of the game, and would have been in a stronger position to win the game.
If we encourage / allow players to charge at opposition players from behind - totally contrary to the rules, then we will have a lot of red cards and suspensions. Maatsen's ridiculous response to being fouled not only reduced us to 10 men, but significantly weakens us for our next 2 games, and also means that it will take longer for Kompany's preferred system to "gel".
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wisdom seems to be if Trippier's "similar" foul and subsequent red card via VAR can be overturned, then consistency dictates....
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He'll learn from it.
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Nah, there's a difference between being aggressive at the right times and flying off the handle. His subsequent reaction walking off the pitch was petulant and I'm certain VK will have had a quiet word about both the immediate reaction and the walk off.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:03 amThe Blackpool players lunge looks a lot worse from the side view that most of us will have seen in the ground live.
I was furios at the time with him and expected a red.
The video that is being pedalled round makes it look like a simple trip.
I for one is glad Maatsen reacted the way he did.
This team needs to start looking after itself, as we have watched the team get kicked everywhere.
The refs aren't protecting them so they have to let the opposition know they won't just sit there and take it.
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Although, as far as I know, a deliberate trip from behind is not of itself a red card offence.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:31 pmI hope not, the ref gave it because it was a clear and deliberate trip from behind.
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I would have thought so.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:43 pmI'd hope it is seen as dangerous play, is that a red?
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Personally I see a big difference. Trippier stretched his leg out and the outside of his foot was fairly static ijnfront of De Bruyne who went over it. That Blackpool lad swung a leg towards Maatsen and kicked him on the ankle. It's like an outstretched arm being stretched in front of somebody to try and wrestle space compared with a deliberately thrown elbow. One is a clear red to me and the other one isn' t.
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Plus, if we'd been applying premier league refereeing to that match there would have been about 50 fouls and twenty yellow cards.
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Doesn’t matter about being ‘the last man’. The red card in those types on incident is for ‘denying a clear goal scoring opportunity’.
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Blackpool had their red card appeal rejected. Correct call in my view.
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Don't think I've seen such a hot and cold player before. One second he's fantastic threading through balls to Zaroury but the next he's backing out of easy headers and tripping players inside our box.
He worries me in defence but then does something remarkable in attack.
He worries me in defence but then does something remarkable in attack.
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Hence why he’s on loan with us and nowhere near Chelsea’s first team. No doubt he’s a talented player, but with youth comes several ‘crazy’ moments and as with a number of young full backs/wing backs nowadays, they are much more comfortable going forwards than defending. However, he’s still very good at this level and will only improve.superdimitri wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:44 amDon't think I've seen such a hot and cold player before. One second he's fantastic threading through balls to Zaroury but the next he's backing out of easy headers and tripping players inside our box.
He worries me in defence but then does something remarkable in attack.
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To me he’s got some great ability but he’s going to struggle at the top level until he can find A better way of keeping his head. He looks way too impulsive.
It could be a youth and experience things, but you’ve got to use your brain in games. To be honest he’s probably getting the best coaching here through kompany, as well as Craig Bellamy, the latter of whom has arguably gone through the same issues.
It could be a youth and experience things, but you’ve got to use your brain in games. To be honest he’s probably getting the best coaching here through kompany, as well as Craig Bellamy, the latter of whom has arguably gone through the same issues.
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I agree with the above comments.
When the formation doesn’t allow Cullen to drop into the left back position and enable the full back toplay further forward like against Reading. Charlie must be our strongest option. Particularly with Zaroury playing as an orthodox winger.
Matseen often makes unforced errors. Great player for us and potential. VK obviously knows what he is doing but trying Charlie at LB when not playing as a wing back , must be a solid option for us?
When the formation doesn’t allow Cullen to drop into the left back position and enable the full back toplay further forward like against Reading. Charlie must be our strongest option. Particularly with Zaroury playing as an orthodox winger.
Matseen often makes unforced errors. Great player for us and potential. VK obviously knows what he is doing but trying Charlie at LB when not playing as a wing back , must be a solid option for us?
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Defensively, a long way off Premier League standard at the moment, but has bags of potential. Hopefully we would have a chance of keeping him if promoted, even if only a loan extension.
Who better than one of the greatest ever Premier League centre halves to improve the defensive side of his game.
Who better than one of the greatest ever Premier League centre halves to improve the defensive side of his game.
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The word from Coventry fans last season was this lad was terrific going forwards but susceptible to being caught out defensively, and thus far that has been proven pretty accurate.
He is still raw is are most of our backline so hopefully a year under Kompany's tutelage well iron out these deficiencies, because he is an exciting prospect.
He is still raw is are most of our backline so hopefully a year under Kompany's tutelage well iron out these deficiencies, because he is an exciting prospect.
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Going forward he is top notch. However I have never seen a Burnley full back duck out of so many headers even when the opponent is shorter than him (ie the Norwich game ).
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Going forward he is top notch. However I have never seen a Burnley full back duck out of so many headers even when the opponent is shorter than him (ie the Norwich game ).