i have decided......I prefer Lowton to Roberts at right back.

JBG did well to miss his chance! No wonder he kicked the post. Hopefully he didn’t rupture any muscles doing it.

The goal was a lovely move.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:19 am

JBG did well to miss his chance! No wonder he kicked the post. Hopefully he didn’t rupture any muscles doing it.

The goal was a lovely move.

As soon as I saw him kick the post my immediate thought was he’ll injure himself.

From the highlights he looked decent though - hopefully can stay fit as think he can offer a more direct running option. Him and Tella on either side would help us move the ball forward more quickly.

The Enclosure wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:05 am

i have decided......I prefer Lowton to Roberts at right back.

INot agreeing or disagreeing, but have you based that on this 1.50 highlights clip?

Very short highlights but 3 times Ash Barnes shows for the ball and doesn’t get the pass. Still gets slagged off on here for only having 10 touches. Stats eh!!

Was BPF playing out from the back? Didn’t really show it on the highlights.

karatekid wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:43 am

Was BPF playing out from the back? Didn’t really show it on the highlights.

For the most part yes. When put under pressure he would sometimes launch it up field.

Goal looked like a good move

More confidence in possession and inventive intent in a 2 minute highlight vid than in a season of Dycheball.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:10 am

More confidence in possession and inventive intent in a 2 minute highlight vid than in a season of Dycheball.

Complete ********

Doesn’t look like they created that much if those are the highlights.

Benson looked a bit busy in that clip. Good to see.q

The Enclosure wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:05 am

i have decided......I prefer Lowton to Roberts at right back.

Id have gone with Lowton from day 1 of the season
Roberts is a weak link at the back

We won that is sll the records will show. If we retained the ball better against Lincoln, Accrington etc etc etc we may not have been humiliated .

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:37 am

Very short highlights but 3 times Ash Barnes shows for the ball and doesn’t get the pass. Still gets slagged off on here for only having 10 touches. Stats eh!!

No one is going to give it to him, he's slower than a week in prison

Thanks for putting that up VC

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:54 am

No one is going to give it to him, he's slower than a week in prison

If Barnes was missing chances or not getting onto the end of through passes, then i would agree with you, but that's not the case.

bfcjg wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:49 am

We won that is sll the records will show. If we retained the ball better against Lincoln, Accrington etc etc etc we may not have been humiliated .

Like this?

CoolClaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:54 am

Like this?

I’m not convinced that 360 passes in 90 minutes of football is a good advert for having retained possession well.

Also there is a huge difference between 60% and 80%. It’s another 18 minutes of a 90 minute game where we’ve held the ball.

Nonayforever wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:45 am

If Barnes was missing chances or not getting onto the end of through passes, then i would agree with you, but that's not the case.

He's not missing chances because he's not creating any, you can disagree all you want but how many goals or assists has he got so far playing has a FORWARD in the games he's play so far it's Zero, we can't afford to carry him

Barnes has predominantly struggled on his own up front. There are exceptions of course (Swansea at home and a game away at Old Trafford spring to mind). But generally he’s rarely looked a threat when in his own. He needs a partner, someone to occupy other defenders so he can go 1v1. His movement has always been pretty predictable and primitive for a forward (lots of straight lines and reactive rather than proactive). He needs a partner more than ever at his age or his performances are going to be very limited.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 9:59 am

I’m not convinced that 360 passes in 90 minutes of football is a good advert for having retained possession well.

Also there is a huge difference between 60% and 80%. It’s another 18 minutes of a 90 minute game where we’ve held the ball.

It wasn’t 360 passes in 90 mins

clarethomer wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:27 am

It wasn’t 360 passes in 90 mins

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The 360 passes quoted was against Lincoln

clarethomer wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:27 am

It wasn’t 360 passes in 90 mins

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It was in the game versus Lincoln which is what he was using the suggested we had similar control in that game to last night.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:29 am

It was in the game versus Lincoln which is what he was using the suggested we had similar control in that game to last night.

Possession is an utterly useless metric.

These days it’s calculated by % of teams passes compared to total passes in the game.

Better metrics are chance creation/quality of chances created both for and against.

We infamously beat Liverpool with 19% possession in a 2-0 home victory - footage from that game is actually used in certain coaching courses/ by coaches these days showing how to organise a low block 442 defense

One thing is sure, we'll score some good goals this season, and if we'd taken our chances last night it could have been a more comfortable victory.

Cheers for posting VC.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:49 am

One thing is sure, we'll score some good goals this season, and if we'd taken our chances last night it could have been a more comfortable victory.

We scored three very good goals against Blackpool

But, unfortunately, the lashers scored three also

Very, very strange that their best chance, indeed the one that went in the actual goal was nowhere on the highlights.

I literally couldn’t tell from our vantage point whether the offside was correct or not. Presumed I would get to see it again…

There are extended highlights on Clarets+ and the offside goal is included

jtv wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:32 pm

There are extended highlights on Clarets+ and the offside goal is included

There's also the full match on clarets+. I'm not sure how quickly all these videos are made available. Also not sure if this is available to everyone free of charge or whether it's part of the £4.95 a month subscription - which is audios of all games. It's a good service.

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dandeclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 8:39 am

Doesn’t look like they created that much if those are the highlights.

Boring, boring, Burnley 85% possession and nothing much else.

Shrews 15% and more corners, shots and incidents requiring defence.

No one gets on the bloody box!

Paul Waine wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:41 pm

There's also the full match on clarets+. I'm not sure how quickly all these videos are made available. Also not sure if this is available to everyone free of charge or whether it's part of the £4.95 a month subscription - which is audios of all games. It's a good service.

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I have watched the shrewsbury clarets+ highlights on my free clarets plus subscription and the full match video is available if I wish to watch it (no charge).

I don't think I get commentary any more or other live events but the highlights are free.