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Squad size

Post by mdd2 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:51 am

Are we limited to 25 squad players with a minimum of 8 homegrown? I think you can have as many players under 20 or 21 on Jan1st 2022 but not sure if that applies to the overseas players we have signed. Anyone know the facts on this and how it might impact on the 14 players we have brought in?
I can count 28 players who may have to be in the 25 with the likes of Richardson, Costelloe, Helm, Dodgson, Tucker, McGlynn who do not have to be in the squad of 25?
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Re: Squad size

Post by mdd2 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:04 pm

Bump
Anybody know the answer please?

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Re: Squad size

Post by Mattster » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:20 pm

Clubs in the Championship shall be permitted to name up to a maximum of 25 Players, of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.

Under 21 players (other than those who are on loan at the Club) do not need to be named on the Squad List to be eligible to participate in a League Match.

A "Home-Grown Player" means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).


These are the players that have been involved with the first team so far this season.

Muric
BPF
Franchi
Norris

THB
Taylor
McNally
Egan-Riley
Thomas

Roberts
Maatsen
Vitinho
Lowton
Dodgson

Cullen
Cork
Brownhill
Bastien
Twine
Phillips

JBG
Tella
Benson
Churlinov
Zaroury
Costelloe

Rodriguez
Barnes


Total: 28
Homegrown: 19
Under 21s: 4

Since the U21s don't have to be counted the above would be 24 registered players. Phillips set to leave drops us to 23, so we have space for 2 more over 21s. We have no concerns meeting the homegrown quota.
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Re: Squad size

Post by mdd2 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:48 pm

Thanks for that. Means if we sign two more over 21 the likes of Norris, Long cannot be involved. As Thomas wasn't 21 on January 1st 2022 doesn't he count as an under 21? If so we have three slots if Phillips moves on.

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Re: Squad size

Post by Mattster » Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:56 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:48 pm
Thanks for that. Means if we sign two more over 21 the likes of Norris, Long cannot be involved. As Thomas wasn't 21 on January 1st 2022 doesn't he count as an under 21? If so we have three slots if Phillips moves on.
Forgot about Long and Westwood. So we'd be on 26 currently. 25 once Phillips leaves. So we'll probably be looking to loan Thomas out and move at least one more on (or just not register Long, for example)

To count as U21 on squad lists I believe they would have to be born on or after 1st January 2001, which rules out Thomas and Zaroury.

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Re: Squad size

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:04 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:56 pm
Forgot about Long and Westwood. So we'd be on 26 currently. 25 once Phillips leaves. So we'll probably be looking to loan Thomas out and move at least one more on (or just not register Long, for example)

Do we need to register Westwood? He may not be match fit until the next window.

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Re: Squad size

Post by mdd2 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:06 pm

Thomas dob 30/01/2001 according to CT's list on here

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Re: Squad size

Post by Mattster » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:15 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:06 pm
Thomas dob 30/01/2001 according to CT's list on here
Yep, ignore me on that one. Brain fart.

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Re: Squad size

Post by Marty Dobson » Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:50 pm

We're a bit small compared to all t'others I've seen so far.

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Re: Squad size

Post by tiger76 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:29 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:04 pm
Do we need to register Westwood? He may not be match fit until the next window.
I thought you could update your squad at each transfer window, not 100% certain though, and yes it's unlikely Westwood will see meaningful action until next year, even if he gets himself fit he'll need a fair number of run-out's to get anywhere near match speed I'd suspect.

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Re: Squad size

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:57 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:20 pm
Clubs in the Championship shall be permitted to name up to a maximum of 25 Players, of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.

Under 21 players (other than those who are on loan at the Club) do not need to be named on the Squad List to be eligible to participate in a League Match.

A "Home-Grown Player" means a player who, irrespective of nationality or age, has been registered with any club affiliated to The Football Association or the Football Association of Wales for a period, continuous or not, of three entire seasons, or 36 months, before his 21st birthday (or the end of the season during which he turns 21).


These are the players that have been involved with the first team so far this season.

Muric
BPF
Franchi
Norris

THB
Taylor
McNally
Egan-Riley
Thomas

Roberts
Maatsen
Vitinho
Lowton
Dodgson

Cullen
Cork
Brownhill
Bastien
Twine
Phillips

JBG
Tella
Benson
Churlinov
Zaroury
Costelloe

Rodriguez
Barnes


Total: 28
Homegrown: 19
Under 21s: 4

Since the U21s don't have to be counted the above would be 24 registered players. Phillips set to leave drops us to 23, so we have space for 2 more over 21s. We have no concerns meeting the homegrown quota.
You don't have Muric as homegrown but he's been at City since 2015. Costelloe is not homegrown, not been in England long enough.

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Re: Squad size

Post by Mattster » Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:57 pm
You don't have Muric as homegrown but he's been at City since 2015. Costelloe is not homegrown, not been in England long enough.
At least my totals were right then :lol:
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Re: Squad size

Post by mdd2 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:17 pm

Have we any room for more signings without not naming a few or shipping those over 21 on Jan 31st or 1st 2022 out?

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Re: Squad size

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:24 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:17 pm
Have we any room for more signings without not naming a few or shipping those over 21 on Jan 31st or 1st 2022 out?
We are permitted 25 outfield players over 21 - not sure we are anywhere near that

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Re: Squad size

Post by claretgoss » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:24 pm
We are permitted 25 outfield players over 21 - not sure we are anywhere near that
Loan players count as part of the 25 regardless of age and I don't think it's just outfield players that count, so I think the signing of Dervişoğlu has taken us to the limit now. So presumably Philips/Norris will leave or won't be registered

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Re: Squad size

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:01 pm

claretgoss wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:52 pm
Loan players count as part of the 25 regardless of age and I don't think it's just outfield players that count, so I think the signing of Dervişoğlu has taken us to the limit now. So presumably Philips/Norris will leave or won't be registered
I've misread it - doesn't include goalkeepers for Leagues One & Two but does for the Championship.

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Re: Squad size

Post by Roosterbooster » Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:57 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:57 pm
You don't have Muric as homegrown but he's been at City since 2015
Makes a bit of a mockery of the idiot sat behind me last week, that fact

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Re: Squad size

Post by Foshiznik » Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:05 pm

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Re: Squad size

Post by mdd2 » Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:11 pm

I count 26 players on loan or over 21 and 7 under 21 this January. So one of Long Norris Westy will have to sit things out until January if I have understood all this.

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