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This incident came off the back of the interview where he made a not so subtle dig at the fans. Don't think he feels particularly loved, maybe just his persona.Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:38 pmI may be totally in the wrong here but just get massive uninterested vibes from Roberts. Which is okay, not all footballers love the game like we do and it's a profession for them.
He just seems off when interviewed and his all round demeanour, it may be shyness. His performances have been okay and he seems to be growing into it here, not perfect on the pitch but his touches upfield seem to be getting better and more knowledgeable of positions others are taking up.
I personally think he is a bit of a loner, again nothing with that but think he is a homebird, also in the video the club did with him found it strange nobody was invited to his wedding, friends or family. I think he is probably happy eith his young family and all else comes after that
I think it was the pre-match press conference that followed on from the Blackpool game. He made a comment about fans in the ground grumbling about us playing out from the back.
Yep Mike Jackson.Hurstclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:57 pmHe was deep.in conversation with Mike Jackson when heading off the pitch. Obviously not aware of the customary end of game team appreciation of the fans
I saw this and watched it unfold as it stood out (right in front of where we sit in the JH upper). He was walking off in front of M Jackson and seemed to be pointing over towards the right corner of the Bob lord side. His body language suggested he was upset/ angry about something. My first impression when Brownhill went to get him was somebody had had a go at him about something in the game (the way he was pointing) and I presumed that it was a either a coach or a player (due to JB going after him) . When he came back on he and VK had their arms round each other on the half way line. It could have been a fan and JB had been tipped off but something had definitely bothered him.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 3:07 pmRoberts clapped CFS and longside towards tunnel before Brownhill ran to him, he was in deep conversation with one of coaches, could of just purely been knackered or frustrated about something
Or Egan Riley, who i was under the impression is a RB/CBjedi_master wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:41 pmGet the impression he has struggled leaving Swansea behind (the place, not the club). It's a big move for anyone, so that is understandable.
(I base this purely on the interview he did in pre-season where he was speaking so fondly of Swansea and how he had been back recently at the time).
I haven't been his biggest fan as a player for us, but he has done better in recent weeks - and I agree with RV, Vitinho couldn't play that same role as he is far more gung ho I think. The clear alternative to Roberts is Lowton.
To me looked like Brownhill was just closest person to run after him, he 100% clapped the fans, people are looking way to much into itKlyBfc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:05 pmI saw this and watched it unfold as it stood out (right in front of where we sit in the JH upper). He was walking off in front of M Jackson and seemed to be pointing over towards the right corner of the Bob lord side. His body language suggested he was upset/ angry about something. My first impression when Brownhill went to get him was somebody had had a go at him about something in the game (the way he was pointing) and I presumed that it was a either a coach or a player (due to JB going after him) . When he came back on he and VK had their arms round each other on the half way line. It could have been a fan and JB had been tipped off but something had definitely bothered him.
I get this impression too. Not on the pitch, he seems to give it his all out there, but a bit of a strange persona, disinterested, a bit aloof, and dare I say it, not a particularly likeable/warm person. But he’s playing that role very well and I agree with the poster who said Vitinho would 100% not be able to play the role Roberts is being asked to. If Roberts were out for any length of time Lowton/Egan-Riley would have to come in.Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 1:38 pmI may be totally in the wrong here but just get massive uninterested vibes from Roberts. Which is okay, not all footballers love the game like we do and it's a profession for them.
He just seems off when interviewed and his all round demeanour, it may be shyness. His performances have been okay and he seems to be growing into it here, not perfect on the pitch but his touches upfield seem to be getting better and more knowledgeable of positions others are taking up.
I personally think he is a bit of a loner, again nothing with that but think he is a homebird, also in the video the club did with him found it strange nobody was invited to his wedding, friends or family. I think he is probably happy eith his young family and all else comes after that
I think it all ended well but to me, a few rows back in the CFS, he looked quite distraught as he was leaving the pitch.KlyBfc wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 4:05 pmI saw this and watched it unfold as it stood out (right in front of where we sit in the JH upper). He was walking off in front of M Jackson and seemed to be pointing over towards the right corner of the Bob lord side. His body language suggested he was upset/ angry about something. My first impression when Brownhill went to get him was somebody had had a go at him about something in the game (the way he was pointing) and I presumed that it was a either a coach or a player (due to JB going after him) . When he came back on he and VK had their arms round each other on the half way line. It could have been a fan and JB had been tipped off but something had definitely bothered him.
Yeah The Welsh struggle when out of Wales. If you watch his interviews as soon as his Welsh International games are mentioned, his face lights up!jedi_master wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:41 pmGet the impression he has struggled leaving Swansea behind (the place, not the club). It's a big move for anyone, so that is understandable.
(I base this purely on the interview he did in pre-season where he was speaking so fondly of Swansea and how he had been back recently at the time).
I haven't been his biggest fan as a player for us, but he has done better in recent weeks - and I agree with RV, Vitinho couldn't play that same role as he is far more gung ho I think. The clear alternative to Roberts is Lowton.
Reminds me of Kurt Nogan!Healeywoodclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:38 pmYeah The Welsh struggle when out of Wales. If you watch his interviews as soon as his Welsh International games are mentioned, his face lights up!
He seems to show more enthusiasm for his internationals when interviewedHealeywoodclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:38 pmYeah The Welsh struggle when out of Wales. If you watch his interviews as soon as his Welsh International games are mentioned, his face lights up!
Who’s constructing an agenda against him?Dingo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:52 pmHe’s playing well, he’s enjoying the new style (as he said in a recent interview), and he must have the confidence of the manager given the other options we have there. I don’t understand the desire to construct an agenda against him when he’s only ever been committed when playing for us since he signed.
Look at the replies. Subtle implication and supposition about his character, personality and motivations. He’s only been here 12 months and he’s done pretty well on the whole but he gets a lot of unfair scrutiny which goes beyond his contribution on the field.
Yeah... Rush, Hughes, Giggs, Hartson, Bale, Ramsey plus god knows how many more all struggled when out of Wales.Healeywoodclaret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:38 pmYeah The Welsh struggle when out of Wales. If you watch his interviews as soon as his Welsh International games are mentioned, his face lights up!
VokesTheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:43 pmYeah... Rush, Hughes, Giggs, Hartson, Bale, Ramsey plus god knows how many more all struggled when out of Wales.
Fair cast.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:50 pmWasn't it Roberts who started all the trouble with Weghorst? Good player but maybe a bit of a bad apple, hopefully VK can sort him out and get rid of any attitude problems
He's playing like a 3rd central defender, this is his role in the team, VK doesn't want him flying forward. The left back plays high and wide, Cullen shifts over to cover left back and Roberts tucks in narrow in a defensive central role.spt_claret wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:09 pmI never like slating a current player but he has been a colossal disappointment. For all the expectation that he would set this division alright he's not delivered. I think Lowton offers more at both ends and could play his role, and I'm certainly not ruling Vitinho out of the role with his performances and movement, plus even if he'd play differently it would give us two real attacking supports from the back.
I really thought he'd impress in this division and setup and he just hasn't. Don't know what it is with him and have to admit I get attitude vibes, especially when his missus was grumbling on social media last season. This is his year to step up and show what he's capable of.
Why criticise, it's working really well.KRBFC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:42 pmHe's playing like a 3rd central defender, this is his role in the team, VK doesn't want him flying forward. The left back plays high and wide, Cullen shifts over to cover left back and Roberts tucks in narrow in a defensive central role.
Roberts has been fine in this new role, used the ball very well last night.
As mentioned above, Vitinho is not the guy to play the Roberts role. I find it odd fans criticising Roberts for not flying forward like the left back, when that is the role VK has him playing.
Your criticism should be directed towards Kompany if anything.
I agree. We are not playing an asymmetric system.
I know he's playing a half and half role but he still has not really impressed me and I think Lowton could do that role better, as I said. If we wanted to change the role I think Vitinho would be better too.KRBFC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:42 pmHe's playing like a 3rd central defender, this is his role in the team, VK doesn't want him flying forward. The left back plays high and wide, Cullen shifts over to cover left back and Roberts tucks in narrow in a defensive central role.
Roberts has been fine in this new role, used the ball very well last night.
As mentioned above, Vitinho is not the guy to play the Roberts role. I find it odd fans criticising Roberts for not flying forward like the left back, when that is the role VK has him playing.
Your criticism should be directed towards Kompany if anything.
Roberts has certain instructions it’s clear to see, I’m sure he would love to have the seem freedom to get up and down like maatsen/Vitinho have done from the left but we would just be too openDCWat wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:39 pmIt’s his passing and defensive positioning that lets him down, for me. I’m repeating myself but he always seems a bit too frantic in whatever he does, he seems to lack a bit of composure in his play, at both ends. So far, I’ve not seen as much from him as I was expecting and especially now we are playing at a lower level.
Whilst we aren’t attacking from both full backs at the moment, it wouldn’t surprise me if we were to as the season progresses. With two centre halves and two defensive midfielders able to drop deeper to allow one or both full backs to push on.
I don’t agree that it has to be too open, particularly in this league. We’ve amassed quite a stock of technical players and as they settle, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the full backs are both given license to push on. It could give us more opportunity to overload the midfield and stretch the opposition further.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:43 pmRoberts has certain instructions it’s clear to see, I’m sure he would love to have the seem freedom to get up and down like maatsen/Vitinho have done from the left but we would just be too open
It would only take one miss played pass and a ball over top and our cbs would be open, you can’t have cork and cullen covering both full back positions one needs to stay in the middle
