ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:47 pm

Gp8419 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:45 pm
But to snap a couple of times at your fellow fans for doing no more than laugh at a video is very bizarre.You may aswell shut the board down and hand it someone less grumpy than you are.
Fine - will do. But shame my comment flew over your head.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by jdrobbo » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:48 pm

Cheers for the news, Tony. Sounds a good signing but time will tell I guess. Seems strange us now loaning players from Brentford but this is the beautiful thing about the football pyramid: it’s Brentford’s turn at the top table.
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by jtv » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:50 pm

Tony they complement each other. The article gives a lot of career and personal information that the video doesn't, and the video is an interesting and novel way of announcing it. I look forward to both!

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by SalouClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:51 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:32 pm
So we sign a player and virtually no one is interested in him, just the video. We might as well just shut the board down.
:lol:

...yeah, people don't care about the signing at all. Think someone got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning.

Good signing, great video.
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by clarethomer » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:51 pm

Another YouTube video of him playing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfyYadtXK3Y

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by 1989_claret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:56 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:28 pm
No, but it can only help if we’re raising our profile across social media.
Exactly this! Social media is the most important marketing tool for the club.
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:57 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:13 pm
I think we need a pronunciation guide!
His name https://youtu.be/smX7tDllcdw

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by KateR » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:57 pm

can he play tomorrow?

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:00 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:31 pm
You're right, I was looking at the wrong g. So the ğ is as in Gündoğan and the ş is a sh
The Dervishs were an old sect of Muslims who believed in Austerity and were noted for their dancing (usually spinning) very fast hence the term "Whirling Dervish" and oglu mean "son of" a bit like vic or Vitch in eastern european languages... so his name means Son of Dervish
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by Goody1975 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:00 pm

KateR wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:57 pm
can he play tomorrow?
I would think so.
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:32 pm
So we sign a player and virtually no one is interested in him, just the video. We might as well just shut the board down.

The cons of the take over are well documented, and we all are in complete agreement that it should never be allowed, and its weakened us as a club

But the last two/three months also show things that deserve praise, and that includes the social media department work on the signing videos

And they are undeniably brilliant
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by RVclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:04 pm

KateR wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:57 pm
can he play tomorrow?
We are awaiting a response from the EFL
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:05 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:02 pm
The cons of the take over are well documented, and we all are in complete agreement that it should never be allowed, and its weakened us as a club

But the last two/three months also show things that deserve praise, and that includes the social media department work on the signing videos

And they are undeniably brilliant
Sadly due to point 1 then point 2 will never happen for some. Too many examples from numerous people that no enjoyment of fun will ever be had for them.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by NRC » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:06 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:02 pm
The cons of the take over are well documented, and we all are in complete agreement that it should never be allowed, and its weakened us as a club

But the last two/three months also show things that deserve praise, and that includes the social media department work on the signing videos

And they are undeniably brilliant
that's either your attempt at a word play, but it's groan-worthy, or it's a full-on woosh. As a goodwill offer I'll mark it down as the former, but I'm not sure :?
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:06 pm

I think the club shop are going to have to buy some new fonts if we're going to spell his name correctly on the back of our replica shirts.

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Post by JohnMcGreal » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:06 pm

I can't wait for the next signing so we can watch the new reveal video.
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by bobinho » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:07 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:09 pm
Is that all people are concerned about - how we announce it?
That absolutely necessary?

The club are finally getting something right, showing us in a great light by being a bit smart and clever with our online presence and plenty are very happy with it.
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by bobinho » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:09 pm

Anyway, welcome Halil. Get amongst em lad. All this competition for starting places is great.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by Cheshireclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:10 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:06 pm
I can't wait for the next signing so we can watch the new reveal video.
I think somebody might explode into a thousand tiny pieces if any comments are made on future reveal videos...................

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by NRC » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:47 pm
Gp8419 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:45 am
But to snap a couple of times at your fellow fans for doing no more than laugh at a video is very bizarre.You may aswell shut the board down and hand it someone less grumpy than you are

Fine - will do. But shame my comment flew over your head.
interesting that the post from Gp8419 seems to have been censored - it doesn't appear in the thread until it is replied to. If that is true it deserves a head wobble in itself

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Post by Pearcey » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm

Cheshireclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:10 pm
I think somebody might explode into a thousand tiny pieces if any comments are made on future reveal videos...................
I understand why the videos are good for the marketing side of things and they’re clearly well done. Does it make me a bad person if I think they’re a bit cringey?
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by Dougall » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:14 pm

Getting back to Tony's article, though, I was struck by the respectful tone of Brentford's comments.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:14 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm
I understand why the videos are good for the marketing side of things and they’re clearly well done. Does it make me a bad person if I think they’re a bit cringey?

No because not everyone wants or likes the same thing. Different preferences can and should be tolerated, just like people can read the article and enjoy it people can view the video and enjoy it. They don't need to be an either or
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:15 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm
I understand why the videos are good for the marketing side of things and they’re clearly well done. Does it make me a bad person if I think they’re a bit cringey?
I think its an age thing
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Post by claptrappers_union » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:32 pm
So we sign a player and virtually no one is interested in him, just the video. We might as well just shut the board down.
The video is the only things I can comment on because I know nothing about the player.

I think theres only Scott Twine who I'd heard of out all the signing so far. Everyone else sound like re-gens from Football Manager. I have no opinion of them. I'd seen the names Muric and Cullen before, not didn't know much about them at all.

Weirdly, although we've signed 15 or 16 players... the transfer window itself hasn't been very interesting for me. It doesn't feel like theres a chase anymore, I sorta miss the long drawn out affairs of us offering buttons, and only to lose them at the last minute... getting the player over the line was the best bit... I miss the days of signing players like Brian Stock.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:18 pm

I said on another thread that Surely with the first 4 letters of his surname he's Dave, said trigger style to Rodney

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:18 pm

NRC wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm
interesting that the post from Gp8419 seems to have been censored - it doesn't appear in the thread until it is replied to. If that is true it deserves a head wobble in itself
maybe you should try looking - not sure how you can reply to something that doesn't exist. Seems it yours that needs a wobble.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by Teddy » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:20 pm

NRC wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm
interesting that the post from Gp8419 seems to have been censored - it doesn't appear in the thread until it is replied to. If that is true it deserves a head wobble in itself
It’s not been censored. The quote from Gp8419 is on page 1, 2nd comment from the bottom

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Post by martin_p » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:21 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:57 pm
His name https://youtu.be/smX7tDllcdw
Cheers! So it’s der-vish-o-loo

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by walter the softy » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:22 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:13 pm
I think we need a pronunciation guide!
[/

I will give it my best shot bearing in mind that English phonetic system is not regular so here goes…


Der - vish -oh - lu

The g with the hat on top works more like a separating letter to make sure you pronounce both letters either side of it to make two separate syllables rather than combining them to make one syllable.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by forzagranata » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:22 pm

I'm really worried about whether we will be able to keep this social media team on board. Surely after all the accolades a big club or a brand is going to snap them up before the next window? ;)

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Post by Pearcey » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:23 pm

What position do we think he’ll play? Will he be in the Jay role or the Tella? Good depth in the attacking positions.

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Post by Bosscat » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:23 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:18 pm
I said on another thread that Surely with the first 4 letters of his surname he's Dave, said trigger style to Rodney
Derv is Deisel in the Trucking world
DeRV= a shortening of Deisel (oil for) Road Vehicles

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Post by cricketfield73 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:23 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm
I understand why the videos are good for the marketing side of things and they’re clearly well done. Does it make me a bad person if I think they’re a bit cringey?
Not at all, I just think that these 'announcement' videos look so cheap and clunky, but on the other hand, they're not aimed at folk pushing 60 so I just choose not to watch them so I'm not fussed by it.
I grew up like many in an era of Teletext, ClubCall, Radio Lancs phone ins and fanzines, so it's great that there are so many new and instant ways to get news out there without having to ring 0898 12 11 53 to spend 10 minutes at 50p a minute listening to a load of waffle waiting for the teaser 'Clarets in former Coventry striker link?', but FWIW IMO (that's me being modern) the ones I've watched are a complete load of rubbish.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:24 pm

forzagranata wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:22 pm
I'm really worried about whether we will be able to keep this social media team on board. Surely after all the accolades a big club or a brand is going to snap them up before the next window? ;)
I just hope we can agree a sell on fee for them if they do go

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Post by SkiptonClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:24 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:16 pm
The video is the only things I can comment on because I know nothing about the player.

I think theres only Scott Twine who I'd heard of out all the signing so far. Everyone else sound like re-gens from Football Manager. I have no opinion of them. I'd seen the names Muric and Cullen before, not didn't know much about them at all.

Weirdly, although we've signed 15 or 16 players... the transfer window itself hasn't been very interesting for me. It doesn't feel like theres a chase anymore, I sorta miss the long drawn out affairs of us offering buttons, and only to lose them at the last minute... getting the player over the line was the best bit... I miss the days of signing players like Brian Stock.
Bizarre post. Brian Stock ? Why ?

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Post by martin_p » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:26 pm

I think people may be taking some frivolous comments a little too seriously!

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Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:26 pm

Burnley 15

Scott Twine (MK)
Luke McNally (Oxford)
CJ Egan-Riley (Manchester City)
Taylor Harwood-Bellis (Manchester City) - season long loan
Samuel Bastien (Standard Liège)
Josh Cullen (Anderlecht)
Ian Maatsen (Chelsea) - season long loan
Arijanet Muric (Manchester City)
Vitinho (Cercle Brugge)
Manuel Benson (Royal Antwerp)
Nathan Tella (Southampton) - season long loan
Darko Churlinov (VfB Stuttgart)
Denis Franchi (Paris Saint-Germain)
Anass Zaroury (Charleroi)
Dave (Brentford)

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Post by Pearcey » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:26 pm

cricketfield73 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:23 pm
Not at all, I just think that these 'announcement' videos look so cheap and clunky, but on the other hand, they're not aimed at folk pushing 60 so I just choose not to watch them so I'm not fussed by it.
I grew up like many in an era of Teletext, ClubCall, Radio Lancs phone ins and fanzines, so it's great that there are so many new and instant ways to get news out there without having to ring 0898 12 11 53 to spend 10 minutes at 50p a minute listening to a load of waffle waiting for the teaser 'Clarets in former Coventry striker link?', but FWIW IMO (that's me being modern) the ones I've watched are a complete load of rubbish.
That was proper click bait wasn’t it. The type that cost you a few quid and left you really disappointed.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:28 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:16 pm
The video is the only things I can comment on because I know nothing about the player.

I think theres only Scott Twine who I'd heard of out all the signing so far. Everyone else sound like re-gens from Football Manager. I have no opinion of them. I'd seen the names Muric and Cullen before, not didn't know much about them at all.
Quite a few I'd not heard of but had definitely heard of seven of them before - have to admit the only one who has come from Belgium that I knew of is Cullen. But my knowledge of European football is poor, I'd not even heard of Defour.

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Post by Chobulous » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:29 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:23 pm
What position do we think he’ll play? Will he be in the Jay role or the Tella? Good depth in the attacking positions.
At least he will play up front under Kompany. We would have had to install the world’s longest bench to accommodate 15 signings under the last manager.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by Cheshireclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:31 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:12 pm
I understand why the videos are good for the marketing side of things and they’re clearly well done. Does it make me a bad person if I think they’re a bit cringey?
Not in the slightest - I’m slightly in that camp myself. The weird thing though, is that these are usually more popular with the younger generation yet by using clips from a 1970’s sitcom, and 2 older movies (I’ve no idea what the film is in the business card scene and I’m 45) then the younger generation (such as my 11 year old son) are missing the ‘joke’ too!
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Post by NottsClaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:32 pm

This is the weirdest, most un-Burnley transfer window I can remember. I don't even know if it's been a good one or not.
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Post by Goody1975 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:35 pm

Cheshireclaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:31 pm

(I’ve no idea what the film is in the business card scene and I’m 45) then the younger generation (such as my 11 year old son) are missing the ‘joke’ too!
American Psycho 2000

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Post by CarlesTheClaretPuyol » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:35 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:32 pm
So we sign a player and virtually no one is interested in him, just the video. We might as well just shut the board down.
Seen some pathetic things posted on here in my time, but this one takes the biscuit. Don’t cry.

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:36 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:32 pm
This is the weirdest, most un-Burnley transfer window I can remember. I don't even know if it's been a good one or not.
I'm not sure any of us do yet. It's certainly exciting but whether it's good, bad or somewhere in between we will find out in the coming weeks and months.
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by ClaretPete001 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:39 pm

All the best to Halil - welcome.

I couldn't be bothered watching the video or commenting on it albeit that is not to pass comment on those that have.

An odd one. On the one hand no scoring record in club football but has 1 in 2 for Turkey.

I suppose it depends on what happens over the next 3.5 hours but at this point we are somewhat reliant on a 33 year old Jay Rod to carry us through a 46 game season.

And barring suspension and injury we have only signed 2 permanent players, Muric and Cullen, that can get into the first 11.

Now I'm going to get a new one ripped for being negative: deservedly so we are 3rd in the table and apparently author really great videos.

Note: the tone is gentle humour not sarcasm.....!

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by bpgburn » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:39 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:26 pm
That was proper click bait wasn’t it. The type that cost you a few quid and left you really disappointed.
Bit like Babe Station.......So I've heard.
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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by RVclaret » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:42 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:39 pm
I suppose it depends on what happens over the next 3.5 hours
Not sure what clock you are on Pete but 11pm GMT is still 7.5 hours away where I am. :)

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Re: ARTICLE: Dervişoğlu signs in from Brentford

Post by bobinho » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:43 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:40 pm
Beginning to think that's probably the best idea.
No it isn’t.

Your articles are very well respected, read and enjoyed by most people on here. Some people like the videos. I like the videos. Would I rather have them instead of the articles? No. But I don’t need to choose and nor should I. They can both be enjoyed. I’m sure on reflection you know that.

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