Agreed for December 3rd in Cardiff.

Surely Wembley would make a lot more sense ?

Anyway who wins ?

Fury is miles above any heavyweight but for me AJ causes him problems, Styles make fights and I think AJ can hurt Fury just if he can hit him.

Can’t wait ! Gunna try get tickets when they are released.

ArthurShelby wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:53 am

Agreed for December 3rd in Cardiff.

Surely Wembley would make a lot more sense ?

Anyway who wins ?

Fury is miles above any heavyweight but for me AJ causes him problems, Styles make fights and I think AJ can hurt Fury just if he can hit him.

Can’t wait ! Gunna try get tickets when they are released.

I think Fury wins if he’s at his best.
I’m really glad AJ has taken this, huge respect to him, he’s faced the best time after time and if you come up short at times, at least you can retire knowing you have given it your all and earned good money.

I’d like an AJ win then we can hopefully see a trilogy, I’d say 70:30 in Fury’s favour though, I do change my mind often though during the build up, probably about as often as Fury retires and makes a come back

A win for The Gypsy King. Hopefully.

Fair play to AJ for calling Fury's bluff, but I don't think anyone really thinks Fury will fight.

Unless he really thinks he can't be beaten by him now with his losses.

Fury all day long. He has heart and courage and the will to get off his arse and carry on. AJ has NONE of those qualities. Yeah he’s big and strong and fit, and has a real bang on him, but when he strikes and the opponent doesn’t drop, you can see the confidence drain from him. AJ doesn’t like being hit, and he’ll be getting hit from angles he didn’t even know existed when faced with Fury.

I really hope this one does finally go ahead this year. While Fury would be the clear favourite, Joshua in my opinion actually has a great chance. Styles make fights - I think Joshua will have learned from the two Usyk fights and I can see Fury underestimating Joshua. He's also better than he's given credit for. I've a sneaky feeling AJ will win with a KO. I like both fighters though and can't wait to see it IF it goes ahead. I'd be happy to see either man win, I'm on the fence with it as I've followed both fighters from the start of their careers.

Fury for me, and the big question then is will he fight Usyk to unify all the belts.

Fury wont ever be beaten

AJ may as well take any big prize fight now to be honest. With Usyk and Fury holding the belts he’ll never achieve undisputed.

AJ will talk all the talk, trying to convince himself that he can do it. But deep down he knows Fury is better. So he's lost half the battle before he even starts. If he couldn't knock Usyk out he's not going to knock Fury out. Fury will toy with him for a bit then knock him out in 7 or 8.

Is this a title fight? Surely AJ isn't top of anyone's list as a challenger...?

I think this is a big payday and the end of the road for AJ when Fury is fully fit and focused.

Promoters laughing all the way to the bank on this one though

AJ for me, think he's got a far better resume than Fury. Would like to see Fury fight Usyk, Ruiz, Parker but it wont happen, he'll continue taking fights like Tom Schwartz and Oscar Wallin. At least AJ never backed down, always took difficult fights in his career.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:36 pm

AJ for me, think he's got a far better resume than Fury. Would like to see Fury fight Usyk, Ruiz, Parker but it wont happen, he'll continue taking fights like Tom Schwartz and Oscar Wallin. At least AJ never backed down, always took difficult fights in his career.

How come you omitted Wilder from the list, potentially the most dangerous puncher on the planet?

Penwortham_Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:42 pm

How come you omitted Wilder from the list, potentially the most dangerous puncher on the planet?

Wilder's a bit of an unknown imo, losing to Ortiz before a late big punch. How would Wilder fare against the top 5-10? we don't know because he's only fought Fury and styles make fights. Wilder's resume is even worse than Furys.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:36 pm

AJ for me, think he's got a far better resume than Fury. Would like to see Fury fight Usyk, Ruiz, Parker but it wont happen, he'll continue taking fights like Tom Schwartz and Oscar Wallin. At least AJ never backed down, always took difficult fights in his career.

Fury beat Klitschko in Germany when Klitschko was still in decent condition, AJ beat an old man and only just.
Wilder would KO AJ inside a round it'd take one punch.
Walking is a better fighter than Ruiz and Parker.
Fury has beat Chisora twice who I think would give AJ a good run for his money, he'd be a nightmare for AJ.
I used to like AJ but he shouldn't be allowed to box again he's a broken man.
Fury is a class act

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:48 pm

Wilder's a bit of an unknown imo, losing to Ortiz before a late big punch. How would Wilder fare against the top 5-10? we don't know because he's only fought Fury and styles make fights. Wilder's resume is even worse than Furys.

Wilder is much more dangerous than either Ruiz or Parker and 95% of AJ’s other fights. The bums that you mention on Fury’s record were obviously linked to him regaining fitness and not an attempt to massage his record.

All fighters are managed in a way to guide their career along a certain path based on their strengths and weaknesses, AJ is no different, it’s no coincidence that he’s been nowhere near the big hitting Wilder.

bumba wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:55 pm

Fury beat Klitschko in Germany when Klitschko was still in decent condition, AJ beat an old man and only just.
Wilder would KO AJ inside a round it'd take one punch.
Walking is a better fighter than Ruiz and Parker.
Fury has beat Chisora twice who I think would give AJ a good run for his money, he'd be a nightmare for AJ.
I used to like AJ but he shouldn't be allowed to box again he's a broken man.
Fury is a class act

Aj will be beaten before he enters the ring. He has a weak mind and Fury will push every button to easily wind him up.

The much faster ( hand and feet ) Wilder couldn’t put Fury away so I don’t see AJ doing it although he is capable.

AJ is a good offensive fighter with good attacking combinations and decent hand speed for a heavy weight. The problem is he is very basic and moves in straight lines especially when backing up. Also AJs foot speed is chronic and at the higher level of boxing foot speed is a must. Being a tank blasting through mediocre and old worn out opponents is one thing but it only takes you so far and that’s the reason AJ is where he’s at. Eddie Hearn has been very clever with AJs matchmaking and hyped him up amazingly well. He’s not proven that he can beat a good HW yet especially one that’s not old and shopworn.

I hope it happens and It’s Fury’s to lose. If Fury turns up in half decent shape he’s winning it several ways. I can see him wearing AJ down and knocking him out cold in the championship rounds. Fury’s a big man with a lot of power when he wants to sit down on his shots, ask Dillian Whyte.

Fury’s power is more effective than AJs aswell and
His shots are much more accurate. AJs wild launches furious combos which works against weak opponents. Won’t do much to Fury’s defence. He couldn’t touch Usyk either.

Penwortham_Claret wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:57 pm

Wilder is much more dangerous than either Ruiz or Parker and 95% of AJ’s other fights. The bums that you mention on Fury’s record were obviously linked to him regaining fitness and not an attempt to massage his record.

All fighters are managed in a way to guide their career along a certain path based on their strengths and weaknesses, AJ is no different, it’s no coincidence that he’s been nowhere near the big hitting Wilder.

AJ previously signed to fight Wilder. He's fought Usyk twice, the absolute worst nightmare matchup for AJ. Wilder might be more ''dangerous'' but is he a better fighter than Ruiz, Parker, Whyte, Joyce? who knows because he hasn't fought any of the top guys bar Fury. I'd fancy Ruiz to beat him anyway.

Ideally - Reckon AJ needed at least one confidence building warm up fight before diving into this one. And not a lot of options for that

Fury should win with ease.... tho AJ always has that puncher's chance. And Eddie H will see it that possibility to get back into things. And just take the money on offer right now. Wilder would also beat him. AJ is a busted flush imo

Guessing its pre arranged Fury fights Usyk next... since the latter wanted to wait till next year to fight

I'd sooner watch Audley Harrison again...

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:59 pm

You can laugh but at least point out what is incorrect or can you not.because it's all true

bumba wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:58 am

You can laugh but at least point out what is incorrect or can you not.because it's all true

I guess its all opinions but I disagree with most of it, some only just like the Wlads age when AJ fought him, but I still wouldn't say he only just won, he knocked him out.

I don't think Wilder is a better Boxer than any of the top 5-6 HWs, he's certainly the biggest puncher and it does only need one, but all are capable of out boxing him.

AJ has lost to Usyk twice and boxed fairly well, certainly the second fight, I don't think he's a broken man at all, he just hasn't had the warm up fights in between fighting the best like the others have, so we haven't seen him bullying HWs for a while, I still think he's top 5.
I like the AJ v Wilder fight, I certainly think its closer than most make out

Fight is off according to Fury…Claims Joshua failed to sign the contract before the deadline…no surprising something like this would happen

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 11:13 am

Fair play to AJ for calling Fury's bluff, but I don't think anyone really thinks Fury will fight.

Unless he really thinks he can't be beaten by him now with his losses.

Surprise surprise.
https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/stat ... n6hSw&s=19

Fury being a moron shocker. The whole world has known for weeks he wants the Charr fight, AJ was just a smokescreen to cover how embarrassing it is taking on a fighter that isn’t even top 50.

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:04 pm

Fury being a moron shocker. The whole world has known for weeks he wants the Charr fight, AJ was just a smokescreen to cover how embarrassing it is taking on a fighter that isn’t even top 50.

Spot on, it's a pointless fight it can't be for Fury's title because Charr isn't ranked so he can't fight for a title

Fury had no intention of fighting AJ, pretty obvious. Tried to screw him on dates, stupid 24 hour deadlines, refusing obvious rematch clause splits. Frank Warren acting like a clown. Fury has always took the easy fights throughout his entire career, apart from the time he had no choice but to be a challenger in a title fight. After 3 joke fights, he had little choice but to take the huge do or die leap and fight Wilder.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:06 pm

Fury had no intention of fighting AJ, pretty obvious. Tried to screw him on dates, stupid 24 hour deadlines, refusing obvious rematch clause splits. Frank Warren acting like a clown. Fury has always took the easy fights throughout his entire career, apart from the time he had no choice but to be a challenger in a title fight. After 3 joke fights, he had little choice but to take the huge do or die leap and fight Wilder.

He would walk through Joshua with ease

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:06 pm

Fury had no intention of fighting AJ, pretty obvious. Tried to screw him on dates, stupid 24 hour deadlines, refusing obvious rematch clause splits. Frank Warren acting like a clown. Fury has always took the easy fights throughout his entire career, apart from the time he had no choice but to be a challenger in a title fight. After 3 joke fights, he had little choice but to take the huge do or die leap and fight Wilder.

Seriously

4midable wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:25 pm

He would walk through Joshua with ease

Then why is he wanting to fight no.60 in the rankings then?

He has just got the British public onside, maybe as popular as AJ, but they won't accept his bullshit much longer.

I love how Tyson Fury turned his life around and became the best heavyweight on the planet for a second time, but he doesn’t come out of this looking good, in my opinion.

There’s no way Joshua would turn down this fight. He has everything to gain and literally nothing to lose.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:06 pm

Fury had no intention of fighting AJ, pretty obvious. Tried to screw him on dates, stupid 24 hour deadlines, refusing obvious rematch clause splits. Frank Warren acting like a clown. Fury has always took the easy fights throughout his entire career, apart from the time he had no choice but to be a challenger in a title fight. After 3 joke fights, he had little choice but to take the huge do or die leap and fight Wilder.

The kind of blokes who sweat blood in a gym and spend hours getting their heads and bodies walloped remorselessly by some of the toughest men on the planet really don't tend to be bottlers KRBFC.
Massive egos and incredible self-belief are absolutely mandatory at Furys level...get out there and meet some of them.

bumba wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:30 pm

Seriously

Wasn't long ago Fury was fighting in Manchester and mid round was stood with his back to his opponent watching a fight in the crowd. AJ would get absolutely peltered if he took a fight with Otto Wallin, Sefer Seferi, Francesco Pianeta, Tom Schwartz since 2018. They want to hold the belts and milk the cash cow with easy fights. AJ signed for this fight previously, now again. Whilst Fury and his team have made stupid demands with dates and signings. A whole smoke screen Hearn called from the very start. AJ fought Usyk twice, Fury wont go near that fight.

fatboy47 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:39 pm

The kind of blokes who sweat blood in a gym and spend hours getting their heads and bodies walloped remorselessly by some of the toughest men on the planet really don't tend to be bottlers KRBFC.
Massive egos and incredible self-belief are absolutely mandatory at Furys level...get out there and meet some of them.

I don't think it's Fury, he's just the cash cow.

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:31 pm

Then why is he wanting to fight no.60 in the rankings then?

He has just got the British public onside, maybe as popular as AJ, but they won't accept his bullshit much longer.

Look on social media. He’s lost a lot of people today.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 8:43 pm

Wasn't long ago Fury was fighting in Manchester and mid round was stood with his back to his opponent watching a fight in the crowd. AJ would get absolutely peltered if he took a fight with Otto Wallin, Sefer Seferi, Francesco Pianeta, Tom Schwartz since 2018. They want to hold the belts and milk the cash cow with easy fights. AJ signed for this fight previously, now again. Whilst Fury and his team have made stupid demands with dates and signings. A whole smoke screen Hearn called from the very start. AJ fought Usyk twice, Fury wont go near that fight.

Usyk is the only fighter AJ has fought that's been anywhere near their prime and he got beat easily in both. Fury has beat Wilder convincingly and that's a fight AJ won't go near.
I think Wallin would beat AJ.
When did AJ sign to fight Fury before?
AJ has had his fights hand picked all through his career he's fake

bumba wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:27 pm

Usyk is the only fighter AJ has fought that's been anywhere near their prime and he got beat easily in both. Fury has beat Wilder convincingly and that's a fight AJ won't go near.
I think Wallin would beat AJ.
When did AJ sign to fight Fury before?
AJ has had his fights hand picked all through his career he's fake

Ruiz twice.
Whyte. 16-0 when he fought AJ.
Povetkin. Off the back of his best career run, older but in his prime.
Parker was in his pomp, unbeaten at 24-0 and WBO champ.
Usyk twice.

bumba wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:27 pm

Usyk is the only fighter AJ has fought that's been anywhere near their prime and he got beat easily in both. Fury has beat Wilder convincingly and that's a fight AJ won't go near.
I think Wallin would beat AJ.
When did AJ sign to fight Fury before?
AJ has had his fights hand picked all through his career he's fake

‘When did AJ sign to fight Fury’ that is a short memory

AJ has a far better resume than Fury, it's not even that close. AJ fights anyone, Fury plays politics and hand picks fights. He fought Wilder because he had no choice, his career was done, he had no belts. Had nothing to lose.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:33 pm

Ruiz twice.
Whyte. 16-0 when he fought AJ.
Povetkin. Off the back of his best career run, older but in his prime.
Parker was in his pomp, unbeaten at 24-0 and WBO champ.
Usyk twice.

Ruiz beat AJ, the 2nd fight was laughable he was massively overweight and AJ was scared sh1tless.
Whyte? Povetkin? Parker? Seriously you can't call any of those top opponents. Povetkin has been but he was past it when he fought AJ but still caused him trouble.
Usyk beat AJ twice easily.
He's not what were led to believe.

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:39 pm

‘When did AJ sign to fight Fury’ that is a short memory

AJ signed to fight Fury, then Wilder kicked up a fuss because Fury wasn't signing the AJ contract, which left Wilder in limbo with a supposed rematch clause in a contract. In the end I think Wilder took Fury to court to get the rematch.

Exactly that's not AJ signing a contract but Fury not, they both signed and agreed to the deal but a court ruled he had to fight Wilder. That isn't Fury backing out.

bumba wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:44 pm

Exactly that's not AJ signing a contract but Fury not, they both signed and agreed to the deal but a court ruled he had to fight Wilder. That isn't Fury backing out.

He’s backed off AJ for years. He calls people bums and dossers though so it’s totally ok for him to call Charr an arena fight.

bumba wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:41 pm

Ruiz beat AJ, the 2nd fight was laughable he was massively overweight and AJ was scared sh1tless.
Whyte? Povetkin? Parker? Seriously you can't call any of those top opponents. Povetkin has been but he was past it when he fought AJ but still caused him trouble.
Usyk beat AJ twice easily.
He's not what were led to believe.

Parker was a 24-0 WBO world champ when AJ took that fight. Disposed of Chisora with ease, I rate Parker, definitely top 10. Whyte has also been a top 10 HW his entire career. Povektin was old but wasn't past it at all, he was off the back of his best career run into the AJ fight. Every single fighter AJ has fought beats Pianeta, Seferi and Schwartz who Fury was fighting recently in 2018. Fury was talking about fighting Derek Chisora 2 weeks ago

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:45 pm

Parker was a 24-0 WBO world champ when AJ took that fight. Disposed of Chisora with ease, I rate Parker, definitely top 10. Whyte has also been a top 10 HW his entire career. Povektin was old but wasn't past it at all, he was off the back of his best career run into the AJ fight. Every single fighter AJ has fought beats Pianeta, Seferi and Schwartz who Fury was fighting recently in 2018. Fury was talking about fighting Derek Chisora 2 weeks ago

You’ll never reason with Fury fans unless you shout dosser mate.

top 4 for me
1 Fury
2 Wilder
3 Usyk
4 AJ.... maybe

matter of opinion of course

ArthurShelby wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 13, 2022 10:53 am

Agreed for December 3rd in Cardiff.

Surely Wembley would make a lot more sense.

Need a roof in December!

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 26, 2022 9:47 pm

You’ll never reason with Fury fans unless you shout dosser mate.

I'm not a Fury or AJ fan, I'm just calling it as I see it. The way it looks to me is that there's no reasoning with AJ fans and then they refer to comments like you've just made when boxing fans state what you refuse to see