Noticed he is missing in action which is unusual for him. Hope he is ok

As far as I know he is taking a break from posting after a particularly nasty set of exchanges directed at him a couple of weeks back - I have had my own frustrations at times but we have always managed to get through to the other side of them in a sensible fashion. More often than not we communicate off-line, I cannot blame him for keeping away from posting, he is pounced on far too regularly, the pettiness combined with outrageous statements that started very soon into the first lockdown have not gone away and it has detracted from much that this board has and can offer to its many subscribers and readers.

I myself spend much less time on here and feel better for it, and from what I see the same appears to apply to a fair-few others that were regular and valued contributors

I saw him at Deepdale with jdrobbo on Tuesday so he is alive and kicking

Taking a break sounds like a good plan if that’s the case - hope he’s back refreshed and reporting on some Claret wins soon

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:37 pm

As far as I know he is taking a break from posting after a particularly nasty set of exchanges directed at him a couple of weeks back - I have had my own frustrations at times but we have always managed to get through to the other side of them in a sensible fashion. More often than not we communicate off-line, I cannot blame him for keeping away from posting, he is pounced on far too regularly, the pettiness combined with outrageous statements that started very soon into the first lockdown have not gone away and it has detracted from much that this board has and can offer to its many subscribers and readers.

I myself spend much less time on here and feel better for it, and from what I see the same appears to apply to a fair-few others that were regular and valued contributors

I cant understand why anybody would want to be nasty to a fellow Claret particularly Claret Tony who does so much for us all to help us get the most from our support of our team.
I send Tony my best wishes and hope to see him back posting soon as I really appreciate his work on our behalf

Chester Perry wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:37 pm

As far as I know he is taking a break from posting after a particularly nasty set of exchanges directed at him a couple of weeks back - I have had my own frustrations at times but we have always managed to get through to the other side of them in a sensible fashion. More often than not we communicate off-line, I cannot blame him for keeping away from posting, he is pounced on far too regularly, the pettiness combined with outrageous statements that started very soon into the first lockdown have not gone away and it has detracted from much that this board has and can offer to its many subscribers and readers.

I myself spend much less time on here and feel better for it, and from what I see the same appears to apply to a fair-few others that were regular and valued contributors

Pre-dates lockdown by a long way, it was a blessed relief to get away from the old board because of it. It got to the point CT couldn’t say good morning without gets dogs abuse. He can get his wires crossed like anyone passionate can, but trolls are the bane not only of Tony but of the entire community on here. I think we should all be more vigilant and ostracise these posters.

Get back soon Tony you had got yourself into a top 5 position in the Championship prediction league,it would be a shame to waste all that hard work...this weekends fixtures would be a good start for ya.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:15 pm

Pre-dates lockdown by a long way, it was a blessed relief to get away from the old board because of it. It got to the point CT couldn’t say good morning without gets dogs abuse. He can get his wires crossed like anyone passionate can, but trolls are the bane not only of Tony but of the entire community on here. I think we should all be more vigilant and ostracise these posters.

Sorry to hear that CT is taking a break. Not that I blame him.

Why anyone would want to be nasty to someone online is beyond me. Says a lot about them. Some real weirdos around.

In my experience CT shows remarkable restraint because I’d ban them the moment they annoyed me!

Unfortunately, in todays keyboard world, it's far to easy to quarrel or express one's opinion far more aggressively than would be expressed, in say the pub.
The most important thing is the football & I really hope CT is enjoying the football under V Kompany. The rest is just noise as SD would say.
As a life long Claret I value CTs opinions.

We’ve seen today how even a basic thread on the new shirt can bring out the idiots

We don’t always agree with the way he does things, but can you imagine what this would be like without him or any of the others that moderate the board.

Hope to see him back soon

It must be a nightmare running this board as there are grenades being tossed left, right and centre - out of nowhere (kit thread, case in point).

A thankless task indeed and Tony deserves our thanks and respect for this board, not the needless crap he recieves and is seemingly expected to put up with. We’re all Clarets aren’t we? It seems so easily forgotten on here at times, but surely that should be everyone’s overriding thought. I hope he enjoys his break away from it all and is back soon!

I don’t post too often on here despite joining from the beginning and CM before that. Part of the reason for that is seeing good discussions deteriorate into personal slanging matches point scoring and personal abuse directed at someone who has the temerity not to share a particular point of view/opinion. There’s really no need for it. It detracts from the quality of the discussion ,imo, and can, as CT knows to his cost, impact on a very personal level.

There's an awful lot of work goes into running this site, which has is an enormous data bank for all thing's Burnley.
And its all free.
CT and the Mods dont deserve any insults.

Think of the rare occaisions its crashed and offline for a couple of days? There are Clarets all over the world missing this place when its not here.
We wont all agree on things, but its usually fhe same posters that fuin threads with point-scoring, tit-for-tat bullsheet that becomes over personal.
Its wrong.

The board shouldn’t need moderating & that applies to any forum apart from libel incidents which threaten & compromise the integrity, that said if anybody feels under the weather & out of sorts basic decency should wish good health & hopefully bounce back with a spring to their step. Forums should moderate themselves & the greater good to see off anything untowards.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:11 pm

The board shouldn’t need moderating & that applies to any forum apart from libel incidents which threaten & compromise the integrity, that said if anybody feels under the weather & out of sorts basic decency should wish good health & hopefully bounce back with a spring to their step. Forums should moderate themselves & the greater good to see off anything untowards.

Can someone copy this and send it to Alanis Morissette?

I was wondering the same

I know a lot of folk just like getting a rise out of him but he’s done absolute stellar work building not only clarets mad but UTC as well - really is invaluable for Clarets fans world wide.

Cheers CT - hope you’re doing well

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:01 pm

I saw him at Deepdale with jdrobbo on Tuesday so he is alive and kicking

Would have been nice to have a chat

I pretty much agree with everything Buxtonclaret says.
I recognise and greatly appreciate the time, energy and effort which CT, in particular, and others put into this site. Many of us get huge benefit from their work.
It is too easy to be a keyboard warrior, and to denigrate, snipe at and insult others.
It’s all the sadder that this happens in an online community where we all supposedly kindred spirits.
I agree with what was said earlier. If I were a mod subject to personal abuse, I’d ban the guilty party.

Ignore them, or exclude them, Tony.
Or think of them as described in the lyrics of a certain song:

“ The sniper in the brain, regurgitating drain
Incestuous and vain
And many other last names”

UTC.

Hope you’re doing well and back posting again soon, CT.

Middle-agedClaret wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:34 pm

I pretty much agree with everything Buxtonclaret says.
I recognise and greatly appreciate the time, energy and effort which CT, in particular, and others put into this site. Many of us get huge benefit from their work.
It is too easy to be a keyboard warrior, and to denigrate, snipe at and insult others.
It’s all the sadder that this happens in an online community where we all supposedly kindred spirits.
I agree with what was said earlier. If I were a mod subject to personal abuse, I’d ban the guilty party.

Ignore them, or exclude them, Tony.
Or think of them as described in the lyrics of a certain song:

“ The sniper in the brain, regurgitating drain
Incestuous and vain
And many other last names”

UTC.

Bowie!! "i look at my watch...." brilliant, I think CT likes this one

I’d actually happily pay an annual or monthly fee to this site and wouldn’t begrudge at all if any of the people that help keep it running profited a bit for some extra spends.

There’s absolutely no need for some of the nonsense that some folk on here have spouted in recent times.

Sat behind a keyboard, where you can’t be confronted about your actions. You wouldn’t act like that in person , so behave yourself on here.

Don’t be a dick.

This is a place to voice your opinion, and sometimes facts.
Opinions differ, that’s pretty much the definition of the word. It’s ok to agree or disagree, however. No matter who you are , or think you are, don’t get nasty or assy about it, put your point across and move on.

There’s a lot of good posters and varied ideas on here and that’s what makes it a site worth reading, however the utter garbage and sometimes degrading comments made by some has become quite regular and quite tedious too for the outsiders , never mind hurtful for the people who it is aimed at.

Get a grip or just leave it be.

UTC

Don’t let the bastards grind you down, CT. You're a fine journalist, keep them articles coming.

jdrobbo wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:34 pm

Would have been nice to have a chat

I wasn't ignoring you! I was outside talking to 2 mates and I saw you and CT. You went into the ground before me so didn't get chance to say hello. Sunderland my next away day so may see you there.

All forums suffer from trolls, but you have to be a prize pillock to troll or pile on those who run the show.

It might feel like a thankless task at times, but I hope that TC knows that most of us who post here greatly appreciate the time and effort he and the other mods put into running the site and forum.

It really does beggar belief that anyone would want to have a go at a person who has put so much work into clarets supporter content on the internet over the last 20+ years. It’s not just managing the best BFC message board on the internet but the match reports, historical reference material, articles covering every match of classic seasons, etc. Hope you’re back soon Tony, you are very much appreciated.

This site contains everything about Burnley.
We are most fortunate.
Get well, get back.

Please correct me if I m wrong
Think CT and everyone else who run this do a fantastic job but it does seem if there is a difference of opinion on a deemed major issue you re not allowed to exist
Abuse ,ditch em but opinions that differ from the hierarchy why not

I can't for a minute imagine how much hassle it is to run a board like this. I am only an occasional poster. CT does seem to cop for some nasty abuse which is unnecessary. But it does cut both ways. Maybe he has been feeling the stress but looking from the outside some of his own contributions have been quite aggressive of late. One in particular where a poster made quite a genuine suggestion relating to Lenny Johnrose that was attacked quite vigorously by CT. The post was clearly well meaning, even if some thought it might be misplaced, but the way it was attacked was unpleasant. Even when this was pointed out there was no attempt at reconciliation.

Maybe a period of reflection for all parties is a good thing.

Am Burnley born & bred but have lived overseas a number of years. However the enjoyment & familiarity with the club & the town gained by reading ClaretTony’s reports & articles are massively appreciated. Hope you are back online soon Tony.

This site is a lifeline for us overseas clarets. All the info provided is invaluable. The chat that keeps us connected with fellow clarets back in the U.K. and around the world.
The work that goes into it must be strenuous. The moderation must be a thankless challenge.
Love CT’s match reports, especially the away games. They include that whole matchday experience, the travel, the pre match pub, people met, the game, the journey home. Love it. Unlike the main media who these days seem to concentrate on managers views or just “VAR controversies”
I would say I get 90% of my clarets info off here. Regards the messageboard itself. I don’t post that often these days. I do find myself writing long posts reacting to some of the BS that’s posted, but then delete without hitting submit.

I’d like to say to CT, thanks for all your hard work. It’s much appreciated across the world. UTC

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:09 pm

There's an awful lot of work goes into running this site, which has is an enormous data bank for all thing's Burnley.
And its all free.
CT and the Mods dont deserve any insults.

Think of the rare occaisions its crashed and offline for a couple of days? There are Clarets all over the world missing this place when its not here.
We wont all agree on things, but its usually fhe same posters that fuin threads with point-scoring, tit-for-tat bullsheet that becomes over personal.
Its wrong.

it's like sitting in the pub with mates for me, great to talk about the footy even if nobody ever agrees with me . I'd honestly be gutted if this place went

I must miss all of this malaise; maybe I’m reading the wrong threads! Funnily enough I had been thinking that there was a deeper sense of civility on here recently, so maybe I’m not reading the room.

I would separate though the thanks we must all surely have for CT and his merry band of Mods from a sense of having to provide deference. There was a thread on here a couple of weeks ago that went off the rails in quite a funny way, and CT clearly didn’t like it. If your depth of investment is such that you equate that with “ why should I bother” then he’s right to extract himself for a while to regenerate his well-being and sense of balance.

I personally find this a great place, and a great achievement by all concerned

Tony does a fantastic job. I started posting on Tony operated Burnley message boards when I was 16, so inevitably I’ve said the odd stupid thing.

I’m now 35.

Tony has provided a fantastic service which I’ve checked on daily for over half my life! It’s mad when you think about it.


Thank you

I think some posters get very frustrated at times because they get a post removed by the Mods as the Mods disagree with its contents. The poster then doesn’t get a reason for this removal. The Mods appear to be able to post what they like and if you respond to it or disagree with that post you can get either banned or the thread gets locked. I hope all Burnley fans are Ok as well as CT.

I think most posters know that CT is diabetic. I’m also diabetic and one of the things that doctors and specialist nurses always say is try not to get stressed as this increases blood sugar levels and anyone with diabetes knows the importance of controlling blood sugar levels.
Insults, bickering and abuse case stress…
I think you’re right Tony to step back. Health is more important than this message board.

Inchy wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:05 am

Tony does a fantastic job. I started posting on Tony operated Burnley message boards when I was 16, so inevitably I’ve said the odd stupid thing.

I’m now 35.

Tony has provided a fantastic service which I’ve checked on daily for over half my life! It’s mad when you think about it.


Thank you

Similar to me, it's 20 years since I registered on the old board - over half my life! - and the work he's put in over that time is something else.

Everyone needs a break at times, I do it myself with social media, it does you the world of good.
I have found some of his responses very sharp at times but I think that can sometimes be down to how you read a post, that's why I always pick up the phone at work rather than email because I know the tone can be misinterpreted and I have myself completely misread a message and snapped back, making myself look a fool in the process.

The thing that amazes me on here is the handful of posters that ruin the board seem completely oblivious to it, even though they are often pulled up for it.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:22 am

You are a massive problem on this board, and the sooner you f**K off, the easier it will be to moderate

Stop sitting on the fence & say what you really mean....

Boydesque wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:07 am

Please correct me if I m wrong
Think CT and everyone else who run this do a fantastic job but it does seem if there is a difference of opinion on a deemed major issue you re not allowed to exist
Abuse ,ditch em but opinions that differ from the hierarchy why not

Totally agree, there is no place for abuse and I hope CT is OK, but unless your in a certain group of people on here and your opinion differs from them, your post is removed 90% of the time.

Well I would like to say thank you Tony. This site has been really informative at times. It can be , like any form of social media, too competitive in terms of opinions and ideas. Sometimes it feels like we are not listening to each other. Kindness and consideration would go a long way to encourage more fans to use this forum.

Barlickclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:59 am

Totally agree, there is no place for abuse and I hope CT is OK, but unless your in a certain group of people on here and your opinion differs from them, your post is removed 90% of the time.

And in all honesty most wouldn't actually write that for that very reason and I hear it all the time away from the board but like everyone says, its a tough gig moderating when you've so many argumentative and abusive idiots, I know I certainly couldn't be arsed with the hassle and someone has to do it so fair play.

Barlickclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:59 am

Totally agree, there is no place for abuse and I hope CT is OK, but unless your in a certain group of people on here and your opinion differs from them, your post is removed 90% of the time.

I wondered why some posts disappear on some threads.

We should really value this site and message board, it's a fantastic Clarets resource.

Absolutely no excuse for name calling or personal abuse, and I try and not get involved in the slanging matches, life has enough stress, and this forum should be a place for all Burnley fans to have constructive dialogue, but in a polite and respectful manner, remember other posters are human beings with feelings and their own problems to deal with.

If CT has decided to take a break then I can understand that, hope he's enjoying his time away from here,

Shout out to the MODS also who somehow keep the show on the road.

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:43 am

Everyone needs a break at times, I do it myself with social media, it does you the world of good.

I used to struggle badly with my mental health and anxiety but I stopped using social media a few years ago, I still have the accounts for easier messaging with mates but I don't actually go onto the sites where all the posts are. I never left due to mental health reasons I just got bored of it and got out of the routine of going on 4 or 5 times a day, but funnily enough just realised from the time I stopped using I have been a lot better mental health wise and I am glad I did it.

For CT he does a hell of a lot for all Burnley fans along with the other mods on this board and as a collective, us normal ones, should call out the abuse when we see it and not get into slagging matches with the usual posters who ruin each thread, all they want is the bite.

I hope the mods will issue a statement when Tony is back on the grass......metaphorically speaking of course. .

I think people need to remember that the moderators on this board do it voluntarily in their own free time so things like getting an explanation for why your post was deleted probably aren’t going to happen This is a message board for a group of people with a shared interest at the end of the day and the reason it isn’t the same cesspit as countless other boards is the moderation. If you’re aggrieved you’ve had a post removed then get over it and move on, it’s not the end of the world!

For the avoidance of doubt I’m not a moderator nor do I know who the moderators are.

1882Clarets1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:33 am

Is there really any need for this? You're out of order.

I don't think I am

I blocked him years ago because he is a racist who for some reasons is allowed to spread his racism on this board

I’ll provide a measured view if I may….

He does a great job in the main and I’ve been a reader of many an article from him and he does provide a good service.
And I thank him for that.

But there’s been times where I’ve offered an opinion for CT to basically flat out jump on my posts and tell me I’m flat out wrong.
You cant tell me I’m wrong. Its my opinion.

He’s not the only one to have made faux pas’ on here. There’s a lot that need to be more considerate when posting in response to other posters.

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:17 pm

Can someone copy this and send it to Alanis Morissette?

Again, this is part of the problem, you looked at the username and just jumped on the attack with a snide comment.