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Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:46 pm
by NewClaret
Thought he was outstanding today.

Another great signing by the looks of things.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:48 pm
by ElectroClaret
With the injuries at the back, it's a bloody good job we got hold of him.
Looks very good.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:53 pm
by jdrobbo
Do we know if the option to sign him (if promoted) rumours are correct?

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:53 pm
by NewClaret
jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:53 pm
Do we know if the option to sign him rumours are correct?
Strong rumours it was if we go up.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:53 pm
by Vegas Claret
jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:53 pm
Do we know if the option to sign him rumours are correct?
i think it was said there was an option if we are promoted

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:54 pm
by RVclaret
jdrobbo wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:53 pm
Do we know if the option to sign him (if promoted) rumours are correct?
Was reported by Andy Jones who id consider reliable for us

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 5:56 pm
by Belgianclaret
Reliable is the word that befits him for the moment

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:04 pm
by MancunianClaret
He looks assured and more than willing to run into space

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 6:11 pm
by Wembley09
From what I've seen of him so far, he looks very comfortable at the back.
Not an ounce of settling in, or adapting to English League so far. Definitely looks to have the ability, lets hope it continues long term.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:38 pm
by NewClaret
Interview:

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... irst-start

What a bloody lovely guy he seems & impeccable English. Seems exceptionally bright.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:42 pm
by Burnley1989
Proper defender that lad, massive fan already! Whilst we look shaky at the back, I just think it’s our shape and we will settle.

It’s Muric and Robert’s I have reservations about

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:44 pm
by Dark Cloud
I was extremely impressed. He reminded me a bit of Ben Mee as he was far more comfortable and dominant in the air, but this version can also play a bit too. A brilliant and somewhat understated performance imo.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:17 pm
by claretspice
He got caught a bit for the goal and other set plays I thought, but that's just adapting to English football. In open play he was excellent. Touch of the Steve Davis's in the way he carried the ball I thought (although he's clearly a better player than Davis ever was).

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:32 pm
by Stayingup
First full match and not used to playing in the Wnglish leagues.. New team, new colleagues and he fitted in and had a very good game. Will he displace Charlie - who could play at left back?

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:36 pm
by ElectroClaret
Stayingup wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:32 pm
First full match and not used to playing in the Wnglish leagues.. New team, new colleagues and he fitted in and had a very good game. Will he displace Charlie - who could play at left back?
For me, despite his great efforts in central defence, Charlie will always be a full back.
He's at least now got serious competition.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:02 pm
by jojomk1
When back fit, Taylor can now move to the left at the back

Maatsen is good going forward but gets caught way upfield too often for defensive duties - the better teams will play on this during the season

Hopefully Jackson, as defensive coach, can persuade VK on this

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:27 pm
by Goalposts
ElectroClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:36 pm
For me, despite his great efforts in central defence, Charlie will always be a full back.
He's at least now got serious competition.
That’s my conclusion as well in terms of positions covered , Charlie at left back would make us more solid i feel

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:29 pm
by MT03ALG
My German friend Manfred, a Mönchengladbach and Burnley fanatic, says we would be able to buy him if we have enough money !!
Jordan Beyer has represented Germany at U16, U17, U18, U19, U20 and U21.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:29 pm
by Down_Rover
Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Sep 17, 2022 7:42 pm
Proper defender that lad, massive fan already! Whilst we look shaky at the back, I just think it’s our shape and we will settle.

It’s Muric and Robert’s I have reservations about
I think you will find that Muric is one of the best keepers in Championship

We have been spoiled in recent years with Heaton and Pope but I don’t think we have yet played against a better keeper than Muric. He may have a rush of blood now and then but has made many great saves.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:34 pm
by pushpinpussy
for someone so young to come from a different country and fit into the system so effortlessly is superb. i think he looks a real find. i think it will be a blessing in disguise the CT is injured.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:36 pm
by helmclaret
All the signs are that he’s a class act.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:50 pm
by boatshed bill
Has the interview been pulled?

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:15 pm
by Vino blanco
Ein, zwei,
Ein zwei, drei,
Kaiser Beyer
Aye, Aye, Aye.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:22 pm
by NewClaret
boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:50 pm
Has the interview been pulled?
Seems to have been :?

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:38 pm
by KRBFC
jojomk1 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:02 pm
When back fit, Taylor can now move to the left at the back

Maatsen is good going forward but gets caught way upfield too often for defensive duties - the better teams will play on this during the season

Hopefully Jackson, as defensive coach, can persuade VK on this
That's the point of VK's system lol

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:19 pm
by helmclaret
boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:50 pm
Has the interview been pulled?
No it’s a different link now.

Log in to Clarets plus and it’s there

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:21 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:15 pm
Ein, zwei,
Ein zwei, drei,
Kaiser Beyer
Aye, Aye, Aye.
Would work with buyer but I believe it is bayer.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:31 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Surprised that he is only 22! I thought he was in his late twenties. He looks a great player

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:47 pm
by Burnley1989
Down_Rover wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 12:29 pm
I think you will find that Muric is one of the best keepers in Championship

We have been spoiled in recent years with Heaton and Pope but I don’t think we have yet played against a better keeper than Muric. He may have a rush of blood now and then but has made many great saves.
And I worry about that rush of blood? Hope that’s ok

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:07 pm
by Claret1900
helmclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:19 pm
No it’s a different link now.

Log in to Clarets plus and it’s there
Video link seems still broken for me even after login.
Can you please send the link?

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:26 pm
by brexit
Slight concern that three out of our four first choice defenders are loanee's. Should we go up that could be a problem.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:29 pm
by RVclaret
brexit wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 6:26 pm
Slight concern that three out of our four first choice defenders are loanee's. Should we go up that could be a problem.
Beyer apparently has a buy option should we go up (no idea on the fee). THB I’m sure we’d try to do a deal for with City and Maatsen will find it difficult at Chelsea behind Chilwell and Cucarella, so you never know - guess it all depends on the fees. We might want to improve in that area anyway, don’t forget we can make two loans in the PL too.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:09 pm
by superdimitri
His interview after the Bristol City game is broken on Clarets+. You can click on it but it doesn't work.
Don't think it's been pulled, just broken.

Did he mention anything to suggest why it could have been pulled?

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:35 pm
by Claret1900
superdimitri wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:09 pm
His interview after the Bristol City game is broken on Clarets+. You can click on it but it doesn't work.
Don't think it's been pulled, just broken.

Did he mention anything to suggest why it could have been pulled?
No. It was a great interview.
They will fix the broken link.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:43 pm
by Vino blanco
Tricky Trevor wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:21 pm
Would work with buyer but I believe it is bayer.
Ich spreche sehr gut deutsch und kann Dir garantieren, die richtige Aussprache seines Namens ist wie das englische Wort “buyer”.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:48 pm
by Exeterclaret
Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:43 pm
Ich spreche sehr gut deutsch und kann Dir garantieren, die richtige Aussprache seines Namens ist wie das englische Wort “buyer”.
Ich stimme dir zu.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 9:31 pm
by boatshed bill
Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:47 pm
And I worry about that rush of blood? Hope that’s ok
Why worry about something you can't affect?

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:08 pm
by Down_Rover
Burnley1989 wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:47 pm
And I worry about that rush of blood? Hope that’s ok
Of course it is ok to worry about the rush of blood. He is not perfect, he is not Nick Pope, otherwise he would be a premier league goalkeeper

Still better than most, if not all, in Championship

Re: Beyer

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 11:21 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:43 pm
Ich spreche sehr gut deutsch und kann Dir garantieren, die richtige Aussprache seines Namens ist wie das englische Wort “buyer”.
Ich habe nur ein bischen deutsch aber auf Sky Sie sagen Bayer. Ich aczeptiere deine “buyer”

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:26 pm
by BabylonClaret
Vino blanco wrote:
Sun Sep 18, 2022 8:43 pm
Ich spreche sehr gut deutsch und kann Dir garantieren, die richtige Aussprache seines Namens ist wie das englische Wort “buyer”.
Not sure your German is that good. Verb is in the wrong place

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:34 pm
by Vino blanco
I can assure it's not.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:53 pm
by evensteadiereddie
ist should be at the end.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:03 pm
by Vino blanco
Had I said "ich kann Dir garantieren, dass.....", then the verb ist would come at the end. I have used conversational German which does not need to have the verb at the end of the clause.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:44 pm
by evensteadiereddie
The dass is implied, conversational or not.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 2:55 pm
by Vino blanco
Mein Nachbar ist Deutscher, er ist zu Hause, ich kann sein Auto vor seinem Haus sehen. Ich komme in fuenf Minuten zurueck.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:02 pm
by evensteadiereddie
OK.
I'm interested in what he has to say.
I've a feeling it depends, as anywhere, on how formal the conversation is.
I prefer the implied dass, the more formal version.
As we know, conversational language tends to ignore quite a few rules.... Take any of Jakub's posts, for example. ;)

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:11 pm
by Vino blanco
Eddie, just had a quick word with Peter, he said my German sentence was fine, though did say he wouldn't have used that phrase. No doubt he may have used something more 'German'.

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 3:39 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Fair enough, an interesting debate. I love the language.
I did it at A level and its come in handy in Austria....
A complete dud at French, though, hardly a word. :(

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:28 pm
by conyoviejo
Yo prefiero hablar Español, es más fácil aprender que Germán .

Re: Beyer

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 4:30 pm
by BabylonClaret
Anyway regardless of the structure and quality of the German I think we are all agred that Beyer looks a top player