Jesus, we are screwed aren't we?

Eh?

Could be a number of things.

1. Football team (unlikely)
2. BFC finances (again unlikely)
3. Anti government comment

If this is a political thread it's well known that such threads are banned on here for good reason.

Fracking hell

He predicted last nights "Set for Life" numbers but forgot to buy a ticket.

taio wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:25 am

If this is a political thread it's well known that such threads are banned on here for good reason.

But is it political to point to facts in history? The previous two attempts to prop up the economy with huge tax breaks both heralded a deep recession (if indeed that is the reference). Thinking outside of the box can be a good thing, but it is perhaps sensible to look at the warnings written on the box, too.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:33 am

But is it political to point to facts in history? The previous two attempts to prop up the economy with huge tax breaks both heralded a deep recession (if indeed that is the reference). Thinking outside of the box can be a good thing, but it is perhaps sensible to look at the warnings written on the box, too.

Am I right in thinking you are a moderator? If so and this is indeed a political thread please can you confirm that it's now fine to have political threads on this messageboard.

taio wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:36 am

Am I right in thinking you are a moderator? If so and this is indeed a political thread please can you confirm that it's now fine to have political threads on this messageboard.

Don't panic taio, it won't last long

taio wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:36 am

Am I right in thinking you are a moderator? If so and this is indeed a political thread please can you confirm that it's now fine to have political threads on this messageboard.

We cannot be sure it is a political thread. There is clearly a danger that the thread will have to pulled, depending on where it goes; but for now I would think it sensible to await clarification from Lancaster, if any is forthcoming. When does news become political? PARTY political is certainly more than frowned upon by the moderators.

There's been plenty of political discussions on this board over the last 6 months and from what I can see provided the discussions stay sensible and on topic the mods seem ok to let them go.

I reckon most of the hassle they get are people complaining about these threads for the sake of complaining and probably partly because the discussions might be a little uncomfortable for them knowing what they have backed and supported for the last 6 years

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:42 am

We cannot be sure it is a political thread. There is clearly a danger that the thread will have to pulled, depending on where it goes; but for now I would think it sensible to await clarification from Lancaster, if any is forthcoming. When does news become political? PARTY political is certainly more than frowned upon by the moderators.

News becomes political when it's about politics and government announcements. It remains to be seen if that's what this thread is about but it seems pretty obvious to me.

It isn't a political thread

Its an economic one

But perfectly happy for it to be pulled

Lets be honest, we've all got a bit of a tough few months ahead of us and people having a go at me for being right isn't helping anyone

(winky smiley)

Not another thread about David Jones and his lack of a right foot

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:45 am

It isn't a political thread

Its an economic one

But perfectly happy for it to be pulled

Lets be honest, we've all got a bit of a tough few months ahead of us and people having a go at me for being right isn't helping anyone

(winky smiley)

I like the recasting of it being an economics thread

Out of interest what are you 100% right about?

taio wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:49 am

Out of interest what are you 100% right about?

You’ve been on this board long enough to know that the op is right about everything.

"From April 2023, the basic rate of income tax will be cut to 19% and will mean 31 million people will be better off by an average of £170 per year. "

Enough for 2 weeks gas and electricity.

Look at the pound go!

Hapag Lloyd wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:52 am

You’ve been on this board long enough to know that the op is right about everything.

Just most things mate, especially to do with stuff like this

And its just common sense and reading stuff*

*by experts, not fruit loops who tell you what you want to hear

I've never known a poster claim they are 100% right as much Lancaster does.

Well maybe KRBFC about football? but I don't think he is serious.

We have been fed that doomsday is fast approaching for the best part of 10 years, what ever has happened today, is it the time that some get to say "I told you so" ?

Anyway, got to work so my taxes go towards subsidising massive tax cuts for millionaires

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:59 am

Anyway, got to work so my taxes go towards subsidising massive tax cuts for millionaires

Don't your taxes also go to those who can't be arsed to work as well ?

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:58 am

I've never known a poster claim they are 100% right as much Lancaster does.

Well maybe KRBFC about football? but I don't think he is serious.

Only on some things

The reason you remember them is because (sadly) I tend to be

Honestly, its all just reading stuff, that is all it is

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:00 am

Don't your taxes also go to those who can't be arsed to work as well ?

Tell me you watch "Britain on benefits" without telling me you watch "Britain on benefits"

Seriously mate, I'd rather a few took the p**s then loads really struggling, but I guess its whatever floats your boat

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:02 am

Tell me you watch "Britain on benefits" without telling me you watch "Britain on benefits"

Seriously mate, I'd rather a few took the p**s then loads really struggling, but I guess its whatever floats your boat

I would rather none took the p**S

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:56 am

Look at the pound go!

Pound has been going for a while… as has the Euro, and basically everything else pegged against the US Dollar. Look at the Japenese Yen vs USD, now that is something. It’s mainly a USD move than anything.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:00 am

Only on some things

The reason you remember them is because (sadly) I tend to be

Honestly, its all just reading stuff, that is all it is

I'm sure you're right about a lot of things.

It just sticks out when people have to claim credit all the time.

Self-adulation. A lovely quality

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:07 am

I'm sure you're right about a lot of things.

It just sticks out when people have to claim credit all the time.

"All the time"

It sticks out because I'm right a lot of the time mate

And I hate being right about this, because I wanted to be wrong because of the damage this will do

Imagine attacking me when someone earning £300,000 has just got a £10,000 pound tax cut

taio wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:09 am

Self-adulation. A lovely quality

*Sighs*

Not admitting you have been disastrously wrong is worse I find

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:09 am

*Sighs*

Not admitting you have been disastrously wrong is worse I find

Who has been disastrously wrong and about what? And on the flip side what have you been 100% right about?

taio wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:12 am

Who has been disastrously wrong and about what? And on the flip side what have you been 100% right about?

Its properly mental that you want to have the thread pulled because it's about politics and also want to have an argument on the thread, fyi

daveisaclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:13 am

Its properly mental that you want to have the thread pulled because it's about politics and also want to have an argument on the thread, fyi

Fair point. I shall not post again on this thread.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:57 am

Just most things mate, especially to do with stuff like this

And its just common sense and reading stuff*

*by experts, not fruit loops who tell you what you want to hear

So basically it's the various experts who's forecasts you've read who are 100% right (on most things) not you, you're just taking the credit for it?

Impossible for Lancaster to always have been 100% right because I'm always 100% right and we've definitely disagreed on something once.

bpgburn wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:18 am

So basically it's the various experts who's forecasts you've read who are 100% right (on most things) not you, you're just taking the credit for it?

Basically yes!

But you need to form your own opinion as well, so you read stuff you don't necessarily agree with as well

I stay well clear of stuff that I don't know anything about on here because people who know what they are talking about are very obvious

Essentially, listen to experts, not fruit loops pretending to be experts

quoonbeatz wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:20 am

Impossible for Lancaster to always have been 100% right because I'm always 100% right and we've definitely disagreed on something once.

*frantically searching through the back threads looking for evidence*

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:23 am

Basically yes!

But you need to form your own opinion as well, so you read stuff you don't necessarily agree with as well

I stay well clear of stuff that I don't know anything about on here because people who know what they are talking about are very obvious

Essentially, listen to experts, not fruit loops pretending to be experts

If you don't know about a subject how do you know who are the experts and the fruit loops.

Look at the club finances threads on here, there are some who post a lot on those with no idea what they are talking about and to some they will come across as informed rather than clueless.

A friend of a friend works at an investment bank (developing algorithms for HFT). He was saying this is an amazing budget for him, reckons it could be worth £20-30k or so extra in the pocket.

Hello from Dublin.... thinking of heading to London for a cheep and cheerful break.... any recommendations on where to go?

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:27 am

If you don't know about a subject how do you know who are the experts and the fruit loops.

Look at the club finances threads on here, there are some who post a lot on those with no idea what they are talking about and to some they will come across as informed rather than clueless.

Yes, I get that

But if you read about stuff, then the more you read, the more you realise who are the fruit loops and who are people who know what they are talking about

My foe list on here isn't people who disagree with me or even people who give me s**t, its people who haven't a scooby doo about what they talk about for example

But I get that reading stuff that is essentially boring isn't what everyone wants to do!

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:05 am

I would rather none took the p**S

I think we all would, especially those who ARE really struggling.

aggi wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:28 am

A friend of a friend works at an investment bank (developing algorithms for HFT). He was saying this is an amazing budget for him, reckons it could be worth £20-30k or so extra in the pocket.

Let’s hope he spends it quickly and sensibly otherwise this trickle down stuff won’t work.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:29 am

Yes, I get that

But if you read about stuff, then the more you read, the more you realise who are the fruit loops and who are people who know what they are talking about

Is Kwasi Kwarteng a fruit loop?

I could understand if your position was that he is an expert with a contrary view to yours, but surely he's an expert?

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:58 am

I've never known a poster claim they are 100% right as much Lancaster does.

Well maybe KRBFC about football? but I don't think he is serious.

He's the James O'Brien of up the clarets.

Stop complaining, I am in a worse position
As an EU employee, my tax rate is 8% (I don't pay national income tax) plus 4% pension contribution.
Because EU salaries are indexed linked I only got 3.5% raise in June and only looking at 7% pay rise in November
My performance bonus is only 17% this year (tax-exempt) and my salary increment was reduced to 3000 euros
The free travel to the UK for conferences (and Burnley matches) has now to be signed off by my director.
Probably have to spend winter in the Corsica office to save on energy bills.
I have a sh*t life

Attention seeker

claretandy wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:47 am

He's the James O'Brien of up the clarets.

That is a huge compliment btw

dsr wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 23, 2022 11:44 am

Is Kwasi Kwarteng a fruit loop?

I could understand if your position was that he is an expert with a contrary view to yours, but surely he's an expert?

He's not an expert though is he?

He has very strong ideas about the economy, and how to grow it, but nothing to suggest he's an expert on it

The majority of experts don't agree with him, and even those that share some of his views look at the current ecomomic situation and and are saying

"This is a huge gamble"





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