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RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:31 pm
by jdrobbo
Leigh Doughty (Blackpool) v Rotherham United
HOW TO SCORE
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25
Please only Rate the Ref if you attended the game and only do so, after the game has ended. Thank you
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:57 pm
by DAVETHEVICAR
Watched on TV
He was excellent
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:00 pm
by ervi34
I thought he was decent in the first half, but completely lost control of the game after they've scored. Let them roll on the floor and waste so much time. At least he got it right with added time.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:00 pm
by Ric_C
Must be hard to ref a game when the other team play like Atletico Madrid on acid
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:18 pm
by MDWat
I take back everything I said about the referee on Saturday. This bloke was absolutely bloody awful.
Lost total control of the game second half. A shocker.
A - 5
B - 5
C - 5
D - 5
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:32 pm
by jdrobbo
DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:57 pm
Watched on TV
He was excellent
Dave, I am so glad you have made this point, as many have questioned why I’ve stuck with only permitting ratings from those at the game. It’s only my opinion, but the official tonight was absolutely abysmal… By far the worst performance I have seen from a referee since the feature began.
What the TV perhaps didn’t show was…
The countless late and off the ball challenges that the referee didn’t even look at… I don’t think he was even facing play.
The two Rotherham players who went down for treatment right by the side of the pitch, received treatment and then were allowed to stay on the pitch without going off.
The Rotherham substitute who went down less than a metre from the sideline next to the Longside, but was allowed to leave the field of play by walking all the way across the pitch to the dugout.
The Rotherham player who was sent off and allowed to go back to his own team’s dugout, before the fourth official noticed, and sent him towards the changing rooms, not noticed by the referee.
He never once seemed in control
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:33 pm
by jdrobbo
A 8
B 6
C 7
D 5
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:53 pm
by Acting Claret
When they had a player sent off, they went down to just the 13.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:56 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
He was shocking and totally lost the plot and control at the end. Only thing he thankfully got right was the added on time.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:56 pm
by bfcjg
He got added time right but could have played 15. He allowed himself to be dominated by their time wasting that said not al9t he could do he couldn't drag the players off. Wasn't helped by the liners.
7
7
6
8
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:04 pm
by CrosspoolClarets
Those remarks by jdrobbo - the TV (as I couldn’t go tonight) picked up all of that but the ratings rules have always made sense. I agree, he was atrocious, the two things he did get right were the added time and the red card.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:04 pm
by aggi
jdrobbo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:32 pm
Dave, I am so glad you have made this point, as many have questioned why I’ve stuck with only permitting ratings from those at the game. It’s only my opinion, but the official tonight was absolutely abysmal… By far the worst performance I have seen from a referee since the feature began.
What the TV perhaps didn’t show was…
The countless late and off the ball challenges that the referee didn’t even look at… I don’t think he was even facing play.
The two Rotherham players who went down for treatment right by the side of the pitch, received treatment and then were allowed to stay on the pitch without going off.
The Rotherham substitute who went down less than a metre from the sideline next to the Longside, but was allowed to leave the field of play by walking all the way across the pitch to the dugout.
The Rotherham player who was sent off and allowed to go back to his own team’s dugout, before the fourth official noticed, and sent him towards the changing rooms, not noticed by the referee.
He never once seemed in control
The TV showed all that. I just assumed DAVETHEVICAR was joking because we got a load of injury time that we scored 2 in.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:04 pm
by Sproggy
8
12
14
3
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:04 pm
by ClaretTony
A. 5
B. 5
C. 7
D. 3
I've had to come on to do the Rate The Ref tonight because it's a long, long time since I saw one as bad. This idiot took 67 minutes before he awarded us a free kick for a foul and by then didn't know what he was doing. By the end he'd totally lost the plot. He was awful earlier in the season v Millwall but plummeted new depths tonight with that showing. He was an absolute disgrace.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:05 pm
by ClaretTony
DAVETHEVICAR wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 9:57 pm
Watched on TV
He was excellent
Did you forget to press the red button Dave? Were you watching a different game?
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:06 pm
by tarkys_ears
He was excellent but had absolutely no control.
...then again, how can you when players are feigning injury.
At least they had the balls to play the actual added time deserved
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:11 pm
by distortiondave
I think the red button the vicar pressed turned his telly off. (wink smiley)
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:13 pm
by Stproc
5
10
10
5
Reasonable first half but awful in the second as he lost all authority. But then he got the added time and red card right.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:14 pm
by Indecisive
A few on here seem to compliment the ref on adding 10 mins tonight. He couldn’t do anything else in the circumstances. He added time on he is obliged to add on.
What he could have done is took an ounce of control in that second half. He was genuinely shocking and had zero authority or control. It was about at the level you’d expect to see on a Saturday afternoon at Townley.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:15 pm
by quoonbeatz
Another absolute joker. They put the stats on the screen at half time: zero fouls by Rotherham which was ridiculous. Actually, his one redeeming quality was that he knew what advantage was. He negated that though by not going back to book the players when the ball went dead.
Their players absolutely took the **** out of him with their time-wasting, he had no control whatsoever. Once again the goalkeeper was allowed to hold the ball for 20+ seconds on multiple occasions. At least he added on 10 mins, although that was pretty lenient on Rotherham. Honestly, standards of referees are so low.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:21 pm
by BigGaz
Vividly remember one moment in play where we just got on with playing after a stoppage and he was still writing something in his notebook as the play went on around him.
Absolute space cadet.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:22 pm
by Claret3495
Absolutely atrocious, was not in control whatsoever. To allow them to timewaste to that extent, I've never seen anything like it.
Let lots of pushes go from their striker on our defenders, knocking them off balance when trying to clear, and gave them a handful of clearly 'bought' free kicks.
Hope to never have the displeasure of his officiating again.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:26 pm
by Steve-Harpers-perm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:04 pm
A. 5
B. 5
C. 7
D. 3
I've had to come on to do the Rate The Ref tonight because it's a long, long time since I saw one as bad. This idiot took 67 minutes before he awarded us a free kick for a foul and by then didn't know what he was doing. By the end he'd totally lost the plot. He was awful earlier in the season v Millwall but plummeted new depths tonight with that showing. He was an absolute disgrace.
No free kick for a foul until half way through the 2nd half must be some sort of record surely!?
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:37 pm
by xxmunkyennuixx
Absolutely rancid from him. Just do not understand so many of the decisions. The foul on JGB that he ignored. The shirt pull on Benson that he ignored. The striker not even looking at the ball and knocking lumps out of our defenders. Just allowing injured players to stay on the pitch. Constant time wasting warnings and nothing done about it. An absolute **** of a ref.
A - 3
B - 3
C - 10
D - 3
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:38 pm
by distortiondave
What he should have done is blown for full time as soon as their kick off took place, instead of allowing another attack in the time that has been added on because we scored because time has been added on for all their time wasting. Then they'd benefit from their own timewasting. Surely the point of added time is to make up for time wasted by the opposing team.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:43 pm
by dougcollins
That would be game management dd, he evidently had no idea what that is.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:48 pm
by what_no_pies
Over 17 minutes of added time played and no bookings for time wasting. What a farce.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:52 pm
by Damo
I'm not adding a rating. He was useless
Never thought I'd say this but I'm starting to miss VAR
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:53 pm
by distortiondave
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:48 pm
Over 17 minutes of added time played and no bookings for time wasting. What a farce.
I'm not sure that's a fair stick to beat the ref with - imagine if he'd booked 6 of their players and only added on 7 minutes instead of 10 because a yellow card is worth 30 seconds, or something.
I'm not saying that's the rule, but if a ref punishes a player for something then they are unlikely to also punish the team, I think.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:37 am
by what_no_pies
I disagree. He can take control of that situation by using his cards. Works out well for us though so no sour graoes, just crap officiating - which is what we're judging here.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:51 am
by mdd2
After watching 6 years of premiership refs this lot we are getting served up are a disgrace to their "profession" or maybe the cotton gloves are off and we are now allowed to see some proper contact play. Despite that he was bad.Really bad. Awfully bad but i liked him as those last 10-13 mins of added time were pure bliss
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:52 am
by dsr
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:48 pm
Over 17 minutes of added time played and no bookings for time wasting. What a farce.
I'd rather have a ref that added time on properly than a ref who gave out bookings but didn't add the time on. I was going to give him awful ratings, particularly because of the time wasting that he seemed to be doing nothing about - until 10 minutes went on the board, which is the outside I thought could have been given by my claret and blue eyes, and I thought perhaps he is doing something about time wasting after all.
As for the rest, trivia. He got the big decisions right.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:55 am
by martin_p
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:48 pm
Over 17 minutes of added time played and no bookings for time wasting. What a farce.
My thoughts exactly. Referees are being encouraged to make sure they add on an appropriate amount of time for time wasting. Most seem to have taken that as a licence to just allow time to be wasted then add it on rather than nip it in the bud. The way things are going some of the evening kick offs aren’t going to finish until midnight.
In other news, yes the referee was atrocious.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:40 am
by IanMcL
He was not strong enough during the match, however, he added 5 in the first half and 10 in the second and that takes some strength.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:19 am
by agreenwood
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:04 pm
A. 5
B. 5
C. 7
D. 3
I've had to come on to do the Rate The Ref tonight because it's a long, long time since I saw one as bad. This idiot took 67 minutes before he awarded us a free kick for a foul and by then didn't know what he was doing. By the end he'd totally lost the plot. He was awful earlier in the season v Millwall but plummeted new depths tonight with that showing. He was an absolute disgrace.
There will never been another game where a team has 70% of possession and doesn’t get a single free kick (despite numerous opportunities) for the first 67 minutes of a game. He seemed content to let Rotherham nudge, push and clip our players, but didn’t operate the same leniency in the reverse scenario.
He had zero idea of how to deal with their time wasting beyond adding time.
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:06 am
by SalisburyClaret
7
6
7
2
Seen worse refs but seldom any with so little authority
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:03 am
by CaptJohn
Decent ref TBH. Got his stoppage time wrong though. Possibly some of the most blatant time wasting from outfield players I can recall. In the 2nd half ,as an exercise, I used a stop watch to see how much time should be added on. It should have been 18 minutes with all the shenanigans by Rotherham but we only needed ten, so I guess the ref got it right

Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:11 am
by Luppy
Some strange decisions. Think he was trying to let the game flow by playing advantage on several occasions but then never thought to book anyone once ball was dead. The Beyer booking but then not booking Ogbene for the flailing arm which we got the free kick for was a bizarre one. Should have got the cards out for time wasting but, in fairness, added 15 minutes all told (5 & 10) for extra time which not many officials are brave enough to do.
Is it wrong to say "I've seen worse.....?"
A - 8
B - 8
C - 10
D - 6
Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:24 am
by Nori1958
Luppy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:11 am
Some strange decisions. Think he was trying to let the game flow by playing advantage on several occasions but then never thought to book anyone once ball was dead. The Beyer booking but then not booking Ogbene for the flailing arm which we got the free kick for was a bizarre one. Should have got the cards out for time wasting but, in fairness, added 15 minutes all told (5 & 10) for extra time which not many officials are brave enough to do.
Is it wrong to say "I've seen worse.....?"
A - 8
B - 8
C - 10
D - 6
It's not wrong, I just hope we never see the ref you've seen

Re: RATE THE REF - Leigh Doughty v Rotherham United
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:47 pm
by Silkyskills1
Indecisive wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:14 pm
A few on here seem to compliment the ref on adding 10 mins tonight. He couldn’t do anything else in the circumstances. He added time on he is obliged to add on.
What he could have done is took an ounce of control in that second half. He was genuinely shocking and had zero authority or control. It was about at the level you’d expect to see on a Saturday afternoon at Townley.
And it's the shenanigans at Townley on a Saturday afternoon and all the other similar type venues every Saturday and Sunday that have resulted in the likes of Leigh Doughty being promoted to officiate at professional football matches in England. I know this topic has been touched on before on this board but it is a genuinely serious situation we have now with all the disgusting attitude and behaviour towards refs in these leagues.