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Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:37 am
by jojomk1
Muric
THB, Beyer, Taylor
Roberts, Vitinho, Cork, Bastien/Cullen, Maatsen
Zaroury
Jay

Hard to leave Benson out but think we have to be a bit more pragmatic, given potential injury to Cullen and Brownhill suspended

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:12 am
by RVclaret
Depends on the fitness of Jay and Cullen. We’ve missed Cullen (despite the wins). Also Tella looked shot at from the first minute so that’s a tricky one.

Jay going off tonight makes me think he’ll be out on Sat. Losing his height for set pieces means I bring Taylor in at left back. JBG in the 10.

Muric
Roberts
THB
Beyer
Taylor
Cork
Cullen
Benson
JBG
Zaroury
Dervisoglu

Maatsen and Tella providing decent bench options. If no Cullen then Bastien.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:46 am
by Guller Bull
I like your style - keep Twine back for the Blackburn game to come off the bench to score the winner!!!

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:54 am
by Sheff_bfc
Just taken this from The Sheffield Star website. Sounds like they're in a similar position with team selection....

Although United will welcome Anel Ahmedhodzic, their marquee summer signing, back from suspension against the visitors from Turf Moor, doubts over the availability of Jack Robinson, James McAtee, Tommy Doyle and Chris Basham threaten to complicate Heckingbottom’s planning for a clash with one of the three teams relegated from the PL earlier this year. With Sander Berge, Rhian Brewster, Jayden Bogle, Max Lowe, Rhys Norrington-Davies and Daniel Jebbison definitely unavailable for selection, United can ill afford to lose any more influential names as they attempt to maintain their momentum ahead of the World Cup break.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:00 am
by CoolClaret
The Brownhill suspension forces our hand

—————Muric
Roberts-THB-Beyer-Maatsen
————-Cork-Cullen*
Gudmundsson———Zaroury
————————-Jay
—————-Tella

*Bastien if Cullen isn’t available

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:11 am
by IWOODLOVETT
jojomk1 wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:37 am
Muric
THB, Beyer, Taylor
Roberts, Vitinho, Cork, Bastien/Cullen, Maatsen
Zaroury
Jay

Hard to leave Benson out but think we have to be a bit more pragmatic, given potential injury to Cullen and Brownhill suspended
This would be my lineup too.
Maatsen playing higher up the pitch with Taylor behind him. Zaroury playing the Tella role and Vitinho on the right wing.

We then have Benson, Tella and Derv as super subs. and I would also include Kevin Long and (yes) Barnsey to shore up the defence against the inevitable last minute bombardment from the likes of McBurnie and Sharp.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:51 am
by andyh
CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:00 am
The Brownhill suspension forces our hand

—————Muric
Roberts-THB-Beyer-Maatsen
————-Cork-Cullen*
Gudmundsson———Zaroury
————————-Jay
—————-Tella

*Bastien if Cullen isn’t available
This would be my side. (Interesting how you have written Jay and Tella and may be more accurate)

Not sure why so many going for a back 3 or 5 when we are top of the league playing with 4.
It may be good to be missing Brownhill. It gives him a rest and allows a slightly more cautious midfield.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:19 am
by ElectroClaret
Agree about Dervisoglu possibly getting a start, Jrod didn't look too clever when he came off.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:30 am
by Goobs
I expect some rotation as a few players are looking a little jaded with all the football at the moment and the last things we want is any unnecessary injuries. I would go with the following

Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
Cork Cullen/Bastien
Benson Bastien/JBG Zaroury
Derv

Was tempted to say Barnes up top (I thought he looked lively when he came on last night) but not sure if Derv can play the 10 role. If only Twine or Darko was fit!

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:51 am
by NottsClaret
Goobs wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:30 am
Was tempted to say Barnes up top (I thought he looked lively when he came on last night) but not sure if Derv can play the 10 role. If only Twine or Darko was fit!
I thought that, I know it was only a brief cameo, I know his legs have gone etc. But he did look less hopeless when he actually stayed on his feet. He's not a bad footballer when he's not constantly sticking his arse out and looking for a foul he'll never get.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:51 am
by jen1066
One thing is for sure - I wouldn't be changing formation when we've gone 19 games, only lost once and are 5 points clear at the top.

It sounds like Cullen is going to miss out again at the weekend.
Unless there are injuries / tired legs that we don't know about, such as with Jay..

Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Maatsen
Cork Bastien
JBG Tella Zaroury
Jay

Although I do think VK will spring a surprise with Benson and start him vs SU or Rovers.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:18 am
by jedi_master
------------------------------Muric
--Roberts----------THB------------Beyer----------Maatsen
------------------Cork----Bastien----Cullen
----Tella----------------Rodriguez--------------Zaroury

(Above is based purely on the thesis that Jay and Cullen are fit, obviously - which I pray for).

Also will add that I would personally start Taylor at left back, but realise that won't happen. I think this is a game to keep tighter than usual.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:22 am
by claretspice
If Cullen is fit:


‐--------------Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
---------Cork Cullen
Benson Bastien Zaroury
------------Rodriguez


Tella looks like he needs a break and if he misses Benson replaces that pacey threat. If Cullen misses.then either JBG comes in or possibly Egan Riley to play the holding role he did to good effect versus Reading when he came on.

That Brownhill booking is a self inflicted blow but we are where we are.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 10:44 am
by Roosterbooster
Is JRod fit?

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:11 am
by warksclaret
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Maatsen
Cork Cullen/ or Bastian
Bensen Zaruorry
Tella Jay/Dervisoglu

Jay and Cullen if fit, otherwise as above. Would go for Roberts who I think will be calmer in what will be a hostile atmosphere

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:05 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Below is what Id go for but thats all dependent on players fitness from injury and fatigue.

Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Maatsen
Cork Cullen
JBG Tella Zaroury
Derv

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:08 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
Cork Bastien
JBG Brownhill Zaroury
Dervisoglu

Need our better defenders on the pitch for Sheff U, and Jay and Tella both look in need of a rest.
Benson obviously playing better than JBG atm, but he's so good coming on for the last 40 mins I'd leave him as he is for a while.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:14 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:08 pm
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
Cork Bastien
JBG Brownhill Zaroury
Dervisoglu

Need our better defenders on the pitch for Sheff U, and Jay and Tella both look in need of a rest.
Benson obviously playing better than JBG atm, but he's so good coming on for the last 40 mins I'd leave him as he is for a while.
We'll need a good disguise for Brownhill ;)

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Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:36 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:14 pm
We'll need a good disguise for Brownhill ;)

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Didn't twig that it was 5 cards, in which case we need Cullen fit, and push Bastien behind Devisoglu.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:28 pm
by jen1066
Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:36 pm
Didn't twig that it was 5 cards, in which case we need Cullen fit, and push Bastien behind Devisoglu.
From what VK has said, I expect Cullen to miss out. And why not play Jay - he has 8 days off after Saturday's game and came off after 74 minutes last night.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:01 pm
by Colburn_Claret
jen1066 wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:28 pm
From what VK has said, I expect Cullen to miss out. And why not play Jay - he has 8 days off after Saturday's game and came off after 74 minutes last night.
As I said, he and Tella both looked half a yard behind their normal showing. I'm not knocking either of them, but sometimes you just need to rest players, that's why we have a squad.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:56 pm
by No Ney Never
Muric
Roberts THB Long Taylor
JBG Cork Cullen
Benson JRod Zaroury.

A nice mix of youth, pace, experience and defending ability. I don't think they'd expect us to be so solid yet so potent.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:40 pm
by nyclaret
No Ney Never wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:56 pm
Muric
Roberts THB Long Taylor
JBG Cork Cullen
Benson JRod Zaroury.

A nice mix of youth, pace, experience and defending ability. I don't think they'd expect us to be so solid yet so potent.
Ah yes Kevin Long - what a great shout :lol:

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:32 pm
by It Is What It Is
I'd take a 0-0 now. Another point away.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:55 am
by Clive 1960
This would be my team tomorrow if everyone is fit

Muric
Roberts
Maatsen
THB
Beyer
Cork
Cullen or Bastien
Gudmonson
Zaroury
Tella or Barnes
Jay or Benson

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:29 am
by Roosterbooster
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
Cork Bastien
Benson JBG
Dervişoğlu Tella (although I think he needs a rest)

JRod, Zaroury, Maatsen, Vitinho, Barnes all on the bench if needed

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 7:54 am
by Woodleyclaret
Sheff Utd will attempt to kick us off the park so for that reason I would play Ash and Derv up front
With Charlie and Connor in full back position
Muric
Roberts Thb Beyer Taylor
Bastien Cork Jutinoho Tella
Barnes Derv
Jay,Zahoury, Benson, Costelloe ,Maatsen to come for last 60 mins as Blades tire.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:51 am
by CoolClaret
andyh wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:51 am
This would be my side. (Interesting how you have written Jay and Tella and may be more accurate)

Not sure why so many going for a back 3 or 5 when we are top of the league playing with 4.
It may be good to be missing Brownhill. It gives him a rest and allows a slightly more cautious midfield.
Yeah - I see a lot of folk (even publications) list our front 4 as

Gudmundsson——Tella——Zaroury
——————————-Jay

Which as of the recent formation tweak is inaccurate in terms of formation, as well as roles.

Jay has been the one dropping into a deeper position in transition - almost like a false 9 with Tella leading the line looking to stretch the defence.

It’s a hard one for defenders because if their DM is occupied/out of position, the centreback either has to come and stay tight to Jay, which leaves Tella one/two on one, or leave him and then Jay is unmarked to pick up the ball to then play in our widemen to begin a counter attack

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:23 am
by 123EasyasBFC
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
Cullen/bastien Cork
Benson zaroury Maatsen
Tella/jay/Halil
Sure the flanks up

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:39 am
by Sleeping Cat
............Muric
Roberts-THB-Beyer-Taylor
......Cork-Bastien/Cullen
JBG.....Zaroury....Maatsen
—————Tella/Jay

Gone for solidity at the back, Taylor back in a LB. Time to try Maatsen further forward.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:45 am
by No Ney Never
Is it just me, or does playing Taylor as a CH feel a bit like when Mee played LB, ok but not his best position?

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:52 am
by jen1066
No Ney Never wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:45 am
Is it just me, or does playing Taylor as a CH feel a bit like when Mee played LB, ok but not his best position?
Similar in terms of clearly out of position, but Taylor has been decent at times - Mee at left back was poor.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 11:55 am
by jen1066
My prediction is VK won't experiment with 3 CB / Maatsen left wing and the like.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 12:33 pm
by boatshed bill
Muric,
Roberts, Harwood-Bellis, Beyer, Maatsen,
Gudmondsson, Cork, Cullen (or Bastien),
Tella, Rodriguez, Zaroury,

Peacock-Farrell, Egan-Riley, Taylor, Vitinho, Dervisoglu, Bastien (or Costelloe)*, Barnes

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:03 pm
by dougcollins
Cant see JBG starting this game.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:06 pm
by jen1066
dougcollins wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:03 pm
Cant see JBG starting this game.
Think this could be the game he starts Benson.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:17 pm
by BleedingClaret
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
Cork Cullen (Bastien)
JBG Tella Zaroury
Jay (Dervisogolu)

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:22 pm
by boatshed bill
jen1066 wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:06 pm
Think this could be the game he starts Benson.
VK was talking about Benson in the presser, seems he doesn't think Benson is ready to put in 90 top quality minutes.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:46 pm
by Ampth7
—————————-Muric
Roberts—-Tay H-B—-Beyer—-Maatsen
——————-Cork———Bastien
Benson———Gudmundsson——-Zaroury
——————————Tella

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:05 pm
by KlyBfc
I thought JBG was the best of the starters on Wednesday, he’s also defensively more diligent. Matsen I believe played further forward some times for Coventry. Benson on the bench this week, but he most definitely would be starting our home games.
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
Cork Bastien (Cullen if fit)
Matsen. JBG Zaroury
Tella (if jay ain’t 100%)

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:26 am
by fatboy47
I've seen Sheffield twice this season.

You can take it from me they're a physical side who will intimidate us and kick our quicker lads up in the air for as long as they can get away with it.

With a big crowd and a homer with the whistle we may need some adjustments.

I'm starting Barnes and Roberts with Taylor at LB and Long on the bench.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:46 am
by jen1066
KlyBfc wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:05 pm
I thought JBG was the best of the starters on Wednesday, he’s also defensively more diligent. Matsen I believe played further forward some times for Coventry. Benson on the bench this week, but he most definitely would be starting our home games.
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Taylor
Cork Bastien (Cullen if fit)
Matsen. JBG Zaroury
Tella (if jay ain’t 100%)
Maatsen has gone from left back to left wing to right wing in the space of a page.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:02 am
by Firthy
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Vitinho
Cork Maatsen
Benson Tella Zaroury
JRod

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:30 am
by jen1066
Firthy wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:02 am
Muric
Roberts THB Beyer Vitinho
Cork Maatsen
Benson Tella Zaroury
JRod
You little kidder. :P

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:33 am
by jen1066
Had a gut feeling Benson might start.

Cullen makes it.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:33 am
by jen1066
Can someone post full image I'm on mobile.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:34 am
by jen1066
Looks like Tella upfront.

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:15 pm
by IWOODLOVETT
IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:11 am
This would be my lineup too.
Maatsen playing higher up the pitch with Taylor behind him. Zaroury playing the Tella role and Vitinho on the right wing.

We then have Benson, Tella and Derv as super subs. and I would also include Kevin Long and (yes) Barnsey to shore up the defence against the inevitable last minute bombardment from the likes of McBurnie and Sharp.
I told you so !!! 😡

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:20 pm
by No Ney Never
nyclaret wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:40 pm
Ah yes Kevin Long - what a great shout :lol:
Who's laughing now?

Re: Team for Sheff Utd

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:32 pm
by No Ney Never
No Ney Never wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:56 pm
Muric
Roberts THB Long Taylor
JBG Cork Cullen
Benson JRod Zaroury.

A nice mix of youth, pace, experience and defending ability. I don't think they'd expect us to be so solid yet so potent.
Ok no JRod, but could have played this back 4, would have provided a far more solid defence than what we experienced today.