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Barnes as captain
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:06 pm
by bobinho
So everyone, what do we think about not only Barnes starting tonite, but starting as captain?
I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused. I’m sure I read on here after Saturdays game that after his “strop” when he stormed off after not being brought on he was unlikely to feature again…. Playing him tonite as captain sort of sends out a different message don’t you think? Well, that’s what I think. So maybe, there was a perfectly good reason for Ashley not featuring….
Anyway, he did ok tonite and was unlucky not to finish the game with a hat trick. Lovely taken goal I thought.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:11 pm
by claret2018
The oldest on the pitch so makes sense.
Probably about his level of opposition these days, not surprised to see him score.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:11 pm
by Matt_Whalley
I’m reaching here but I saw starting him as captain as an olive branch from Kompany after Saturday’s events.
A different style of leadership. One I definitely prefer.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:13 pm
by Bosscat
bobinho wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:06 pm
So everyone, what do we think about not only Barnes starting tonite, but starting as captain?
I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused. I’m sure I read on here after Saturdays game that
after his “strop” when he stormed off after not being brought on he was unlikely to feature again…. Playing him tonite as captain sort of sends out a different message don’t you think? Well, that’s what I think. So maybe, there was a perfectly good reason for Ashley not featuring….
Anyway, he did ok tonite and was unlucky not to finish the game with a hat trick. Lovely taken goal I thought.
He needed a poo I heard
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:10 am
by dsr
bobinho wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:06 pm
So everyone, what do we think about not only Barnes starting tonite, but starting as captain?
I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused. I’m sure I read on here after Saturdays game that after his “strop” when he stormed off after not being brought on he was unlikely to feature again…. Playing him tonite as captain sort of sends out a different message don’t you think? Well, that’s what I think. So maybe, there was a perfectly good reason for Ashley not featuring….
Anyway, he did ok tonite and was unlucky not to finish the game with a hat trick. Lovely taken goal I thought.
It's almost as if you read something on the internet that wasn't true ...
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:13 am
by Clive 1960
Good of Vincent making him captain and leading by example that is what might be the difference on Sunday.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:14 am
by OrientMascot
I’m fed up with hearing the sh*t Barnes is getting.
Whether or not he’s good enough, he’s given 100% playing in a Burnley shirt since we signed him. The guy owes us nothing, we renewed his contract, age and injuries have caught up with him but he doesn’t deserve vitriol he’s received this season.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:35 am
by OrientMascot
Barnes to score the winner against basta*ds. Knee slide in front of away fans. Restore his status as a Burnley cult hero
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:26 am
by IanMcL
He equalised and got an assist. Nice one Ashley Barnes.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:58 am
by Quicknick
IanMcL wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:26 am
He equalised and got an assist. Nice one Ashley Barnes.
And what a good header his goal was.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 6:08 am
by HunterST_BFC
Barnes has always been a Captain at Burnley.
Always 100%
Always for the team.
Always works hard,
By all accounts a key member of the dressing room.
Naturally helpful to newbies.
Grounded and finally found a home at Burnley.
Yes he is in his twilight - but yes he is still needed. Also an important link (like Cork) to the Burnley ethic.
Tonigth he missed a sitter and scored great finish (peak Barnes) plus an assist.
Plus the tireless effort making runs, pulling there defence one way or another...
Is he on his last season with us? Probably.
Would you want him in your Championship Squad for a return to the PL = HELL YEAH !
Lay off him if you are looking for moans...
I'm sure he'll play a part this season.
I'm pretty sure he is also well respected in the Day to Day glueing that makes a team.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:11 am
by bobinho
dsr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:10 am
It's almost as if you read something on the internet that wasn't true ...
Exactly my point. And it was all on here….
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:38 am
by Nori1958
bobinho wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:06 pm
So everyone, what do we think about not only Barnes starting tonite, but starting as captain?
I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused. I’m sure I read on here after Saturdays game that after his “strop” when he stormed off after not being brought on he was unlikely to feature again…. Playing him tonite as captain sort of sends out a different message don’t you think? Well, that’s what I think. So maybe, there was a perfectly good reason for Ashley not featuring….
Anyway, he did ok tonite and was unlucky not to finish the game with a hat trick. Lovely taken goal I thought.
Here we go again, people making things up, that eventually are taken as facts by some
There was no strop.... It was cleared up by the press shortly after full time on Saturday
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:56 am
by Hibsclaret
His volley against Rotherham was very unlucky to be given as offside. It was very marginal but I think he was onside. The amount of nonsense on here about him is ridiculous, particularly for the Sunderland game where everyone was bad and he wasn’t actually the worst. He has been a great servant and deserves a good send off at the end of the season. It wouldn’t surprise me if he nicked a couple of important goals in the league at some point.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:32 am
by tiger76
The morale of this tale is don't believe everything you read on UTC, especially if it's classed as a rumour..
Barnes did well last night, and it was pleasing to see him score, however the level of opposition does need to be taken into account at the same time.
Assuming Jay is fit Barnes won't start on Sunday, but he night have shown enough against Crawley and Rotherham to earn a spot on the bench, and his know-how could be important in the closing stages of a tense derby.
Almost certainly his last season along with a few others at this level, but our experienced core will all have a role during the season to nurture our youngsters.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:47 am
by Cleveleys_claret
bobinho wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:11 am
Exactly my point. And it was all on here….
Yet you mention it again and start a thread regards the rumour. For some it will only make the rumour become fact. Who do you support? Because threads like this are not needed and only detract from the feel good vibe around the club at the moment
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:49 am
by Tricky Trevor
Wasn’t he about to come on Saturday when they scored again?
Change of emphasis from VK and Ash doesn’t go on. Nothing embarrassing but he’s miffed. Live with it as it happens somewhere most weeks.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:53 am
by bobinho
Oh give it a rest cleveleys ffs….
The thread was really just about knocking the rumour mill that’s rife on here, not trying to perpetuate it.
I read all the rumours, and didn’t get involved because I KNEW they were ********. This thread is about highlighting how far from the mark these rumours were. I mean, no manager would have one of his players behave the way it was suggested, and in the next game start him and make him captain would they? I was merely trying to highlight the inaccuracies of said rumours.
Maybe I wasn’t clear in my op. It’s the rumour mill o have an issue with, not Barnes.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:57 am
by Cleveleys_claret
Yet you start by saying how confused you are
Then go on to say you think it sends the wrong message
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:02 am
by bobinho
Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:57 am
Yet you start by saying how confused you are
SARCASM
Then go on to say you think it sends the wrong message
I SAID IT SENDS A DIFFERENT MESSAGE. A different message than what was posted on here like they were facts.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:26 am
by box_of_frogs
claret2018 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:11 pm
The oldest on the pitch so makes sense.
Age has nothing to do with leadership!
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:31 am
by Lancasterclaret
OrientMascot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:14 am
I’m fed up with hearing the sh*t Barnes is getting.
Whether or not he’s good enough, he’s given 100% playing in a Burnley shirt since we signed him. The guy owes us nothing, we renewed his contract, age and injuries have caught up with him but he doesn’t deserve vitriol he’s received this season.
He played well last night, but its clearly a level where he should do well
What I would say is that if a player is currently playing and playing badly, then its ridiculous to not say so because he is a club legend
He was brilliant for us, he may well be again, but at the moment he has a hell of a long way to go to fit into our side as a useful option
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:35 am
by RammyClaret61
Can I just say thank you to our Ash for scoring last night. Especially in the 24th minute.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:48 am
by Stayingup
Some people obviously have nothing much to do in their lives and their heads are empty.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:52 am
by chekhov
RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:35 am
Can I just say thank you to our Ash for scoring last night. Especially in the 24th minute.
RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:37 am
Burnley 4-1 Crawley. Brownhill 25
PL
Bad news RammyClaret, you were in fact one minute out
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:55 am
by lakedistrictclaret
chekhov wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:52 am
Bad news RammyClaret, you were in fact one minute out
I think Rammy is referring to the fact that he won First Goal Sweep.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:58 am
by chekhov
lakedistrictclaret wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:55 am
I think Rammy is referring to the fact that he won First Goal Sweep.
Fair enough. Congratulations are in order in that case!
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:33 am
by dibraidio
His legs have gone, only good enough to score against Rochdale? Isn't that what people were saying about Jay Rod last year. Deja vu anyone?
Has anybody actually seen statstics on Barnes' running? Distance covered, average speed, sprints per game.... Surely those are the sort of stats that will indicate if he's still physically capable or playing at this level. As for scoring, his header would have beaten a Championship Keeper and his finish against Rotherham was excellent even if it was offside. Barnes has always been a marmite player but there have definitely been glimpses of his brilliant best in the last two games. I've always felt that Barnes is at his best when he doesn't have time to think and just follows his instinct. Over the last few seasons he's been a victim of playing the Sean Dyche way, backing into players to try and win free kicks has become a bit of trade mark and last season I'm convinced that it stopped working when the referees decided to let the game flow and stop giving free kicks for minimal contact, Barnes had been winning around 2 fouls per game up to that point, last season that stat dropped to 0.5.
I reckon he's still got plenty to offer and could surprise a few people.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:54 am
by IanMcL
Hibsclaret wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:56 am
His volley against Rotherham was very unlucky to be given as offside. It was very marginal but I think he was onside. The amount of nonsense on here about him is ridiculous, particularly for the Sunderland game where everyone was bad and he wasn’t actually the worst. He has been a great servant and deserves a good send off at the end of the season. It wouldn’t surprise me if he nicked a couple of important goals in the league at some point.
That volley was superb. Still a memory from that match.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:58 am
by JohnMac
The OP made sense to me as questioning the rumours not expanding on them.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:58 am
by Belgianclaret
Unbelievable what Is being directed towards Barnes.
Yes, he is past his prime and not a starter anymore, but he’s always given his best and has never downed his tools.
I think at least a bit more support and respect is in order.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:00 pm
by Lancasterclaret
Can any of you set the parameters when we can criticise Barnes for not being up to scratch for about three years?
Thanks in advance!
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 12:04 pm
by JohnMac
I thought Ash showed his desire to get into scoring positions last night, his header was excellent and he pulls defenders around.
It seems he has stopped backing in and falling over hoping to gain free kicks. Maybe something has changed in his instructions from the coaching staff.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:52 pm
by ClaretTony
bobinho wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:06 pm
So everyone, what do we think about not only Barnes starting tonite, but starting as captain?
I’ll be honest, I’m a little confused. I’m sure I read on here after Saturdays game that after his “strop” when he stormed off after not being brought on he was unlikely to feature again…. Playing him tonite as captain sort of sends out a different message don’t you think? Well, that’s what I think. So maybe, there was a perfectly good reason for Ashley not featuring….
Anyway, he did ok tonite and was unlucky not to finish the game with a hat trick. Lovely taken goal I thought.
He was captain at Shrewsbury and as for Saturday, explained there was no strop at all, he just needed to pay a visit. Played well last night too.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:56 pm
by Bosscat
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:52 pm
He was captain at Shrewsbury and as for Saturday, explained there was no strop at all, he just needed to pay a visit. Played well last night too.
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:42 pm
by SussexDon1inIreland
That goal hopefully will give him confidence and I for one think he will still play a role for us this season
UTC
Re: Barnes as captain
Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:03 pm
by 4midable
IanMcL wrote: ↑Wed Nov 09, 2022 2:26 am
He equalised and got an assist. Nice one Ashley Barnes.
And scored a good 1 marginally offside
And scored a belter last week albeit offside
