• England v Iran

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:05 am**

Early team news rumours suggesting a 4-3-3 to be played:

Pickford, Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Shaw, Rice, Mount, Bellingham, Saka, Sterling, Kane

Don’t mind it but Foden must be knocking on the door, Mount and Sterling could consider themselves fortunate, given their poor league form.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:08 am**

If true it's jobs for the boy's , the form Foden is in he should start but Southgate will have is reason's as always .

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:19 am**

Gideon should be in every England team. He’s a one off talent. Madness if he doesn’t start.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:22 am**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:05 am
Early team news rumours suggesting a 4-3-3 to be played:

Pickford, Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Shaw, Rice, Mount, Bellingham, Saka, Sterling, Kane

Don’t mind it but Foden must be knocking on the door, Mount and Sterling could consider themselves fortunate, given their poor league form.

How Mount continues to get selected for Chelsea and England blows my mind.

I like that team, just swap Foden for Mount and your laughing

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:25 am**

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:19 am
Gideon should be in every England team. He’s a one off talent. Madness if he doesn’t start.

Auto correct, Foden!

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:37 am**

Cannot tolerate Southgate. On form, Maguire and Sterling should be nowhere near the lineup.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:39 am**

I like Mount, think he's brilliant, but I would still put Foden in

With the games coming so thick and fast, and with barely a week since the last premier league games, then we need to be playing the lads in form

Oh, and we get that some of you don't like Southgate, its not 100% essential to put it on every thread

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:47 am**

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:39 am
I like Mount, think he's brilliant, but I would still put Foden in

With the games coming so thick and fast, and with barely a week since the last premier league games, then we need to be playing the lads in form

Oh, and we get that some of you don't like Southgate, its not 100% essential to put it on every thread

I’m glad he’s starting trippier and Saka both lads in good form.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:59 am**

Can you pay on the gate?

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:10 am**

Very surprised Foden looks set to miss out again. I think he’s our most talented player.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:18 am**

Mount and Foden are different players. Mount is best through the middle, Foden out wide and coming in at the far post.
Bellingham should be our ball carrier now and Mount nowhere near on current form.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:19 am**

We should be building our squad around Foden, Bellingham, Saka and Rice - everything else (bar Kane for this tournament) can be up for debate, but not those four. They are the next ten years of the England national team.

Sterling has delivered goals, if not performances, at major tournaments but he has been gash for Chelsea. I’d have rather given Rashford a go off the left of Kane with his recent form.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:32 am**

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:59 am
Can you pay on the gate?

I think you’ll probably get paid on the gate to enter to make up numbers!

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:38 am**

Kane up top with Sterling Foden and Saka making up the front four. It really is a no brainer.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:45 am**

Southgate picks the players he knows and trusts, that have played well together countless times before, rather than just throwing together whoever is playing well in the PL at the moment.

It’s worked well in the last 2 tournaments so no complaints from me.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:00 am**

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:01 am**

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:45 am
Southgate picks the players he knows and trusts, that have played well together countless times before, rather than just throwing together whoever is playing well in the PL at the moment.

It’s worked well in the last 2 tournaments so no complaints from me.

Agree with this.

They’ve had one weeks preparation, rather than the usual 3-6 weeks prior to a tournament.

They aren’t going to work on new formations/players in that time so sticking with what they know

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:03 am**

claret2018 wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:45 am
Southgate picks the players he knows and trusts, that have played well together countless times before, rather than just throwing together whoever is playing well in the PL at the moment.

It’s worked well in the last 2 tournaments so no complaints from me.

Not sure selecting Foden (all that's being discussed here) over either Sterling/Mount is that radical to be fair.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:06 am**

Saka, Sterling and Bellingham are too similar imo. I’d swap Sterling for Foden and that looks the best 11 for me. Foden can be the difference against packed defences which we’ll have to get through in these 3 group games.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:14 am**

Will miss this like many other but will keep tabs on the game on here

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:29 am**

Mount has a reputation of being a manager’s dream - a versatile and intelligent player who carries out instructions to a tee. Sterling offers the pace in behind Kane which is vital for this England team. Leaving out Foden isn’t particularly controversial but like Grealish in the last tournament there has to be an omission for the English public to moan about.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:33 am**

Foden and Mount were **** in the Euros, Sterling was the best player. It's not surprising Southgate would prefer Sterling to either of those 2, given the performances of Sterling under GS.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:36 am**

Murger wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:37 am
Cannot tolerate Southgate. On form, Maguire and Sterling should be nowhere near the lineup.

Then don't watch...... do us all a favour.

Nobody gives a crap about ''on form'', Sterling was the best player in the last Euros and Foden was ****. Maguire has always done well for England, why would he not be picked? who is in form?

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:40 am**

If he plays Sake and Stirling wide and Lane plays deep, who is going to be in a position to score goals. He did that against Poland. We shall gave to wait and see the team and tactics, but with this manager anything is possible

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:49 am**

Think he's picked a 'safe' team again - no huge complaints, but he can never say he picks players on form.

Sterling was out of form pre-euros as well and ended up being our best player so think he's earned the right to have a couple of games here

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:50 am**

Southgate’s just a bell end. A failed manager who’s gotten lucky with easy teams in tournaments.

He seems more interested in pushing certain agendas than anything else which makes him more of a bell end.

Can’t wait until he gets sacked

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:51 am**

Not much creativity in that midfield that I can see, a lot on Bellingham's shoulders to provide the guile.

Maguire is fortunate to retain his place as although he was immense in the Euro's his form for club and country has been dreadful for months.

Hoping for a routine England win today, but make no mistake this is a potential banana skin first up.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:55 am**

Foden has massively disappointed for England, especially if you compare his performances for City. But I don't blame Foden for that. He isn't being utilised properly. He's a phenomenal footballer, and will no doubt be a multiple Ballon D'Or nominee, and probably even make top 3 or better at some point.

But Southgate relies on safety. Defensive set up. Players that have worked for him before. And I think that has been his downfall in the past (we have only beaten 1 good team in the major finals), and will be now.

But our squad has some excellent players in there. Good enough for Semis or better. But when you set up as Southgate does, you won't get the best our of them.

Just think, would Pep or Klopp play the same XI as Southgate? I very much doubt it...

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:56 am**

Roosterbooster wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:55 am
Foden has massively disappointed for England, especially if you compare his performances for City. But I don't blame Foden for that. He isn't being utilised properly. He's a phenomenal footballer, and will no doubt be a multiple Ballon D'Or nominee, and probably even make top 3 or better at some point.

But Southgate relies on safety. Defensive set up. Players that have worked for him before. And I think that has been his downfall in the past (we have only beaten 1 good team in the major finals), and will be now.

But our squad has some excellent players in there. Good enough for Semis or better. But when you set up as Southgate does, you won't get the best our of them.

Just think, would Pep or Klopp play the same XI as Southgate? I very much doubt it...

England reached the European final, what on earth are you talking about? not getting the best out of them

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:59 am**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:36 am
Then don't watch...... do us all a favour.

Nobody gives a crap about ''on form'', Sterling was the best player in the last Euros and Foden was ****. Maguire has always done well for England, why would he not be picked? who is in form?

You’re just a jumped up knob who thinks he knows it all. Why not do everyone else a favour a jog on yourself.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:04 am**

Murger wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:59 am
You’re just a jumped up knob who thinks he knows it all. Why not do everyone else a favour a jog on yourself.

just don't watch, if you hate Southgate so much. You just gonna cry on here all tournament long??? We made the Euros final and you were whining about Southgate before and after every game

You must not have been around during the Sven, Capello, Mclaren days

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:06 am**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:04 am
just don't watch, if you hate Southgate so much. You just gonna cry on here all tournament long??? We made the Euros final and you were whining about Southgate before and after every game You must not have been around during the Sven, Capello, Mclaren days

Yeah, being older than you, I must not have been.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:07 am**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:33 am
Foden and Mount were **** in the Euros, Sterling was the best player. It's not surprising Southgate would prefer Sterling to either of those 2, given the performances of Sterling under GS.

Foden played quite well in England's first game in the Euros against Croatia, he was unlucky with a shot coming back off the post.
In the 2nd game against the Czechs he picked up a booking in the 2nd half. Southgate subsequently left him out of the next group game to avoid him getting another booking and a 1 game ban which meant he would have missed the Germany game.

Saka played instead and was outstanding and so retained his place against the Germans.
Foden suffered a serious foot injury in training which restricted him to just a few minutes in the semi final and ruled him out of the final.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:08 am**

Just heard that Kane will not wear the One Love armband - another reason why this world cup is in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:12 am**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:04 am
just don't watch, if you hate Southgate so much. You just gonna cry on here all tournament long??? We made the Euros final and you were whining about Southgate before and after every game You must not have been around during the Sven, Capello, Mclaren days

Couldn’t you have taken this advice when polluting every topic about Burnley for the last few seasons. You even go out your way to obtain an illegal stream while whinging

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:12 am**

Targetman wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:07 am
Foden played quite well in England's first game in the Euros against Croatia, he was unlucky with a shot coming back off the post.
In the 2nd game against the Czechs he picked up a booking in the 2nd half. Southgate subsequently left him out of the next group game to avoid him getting another booking and a 1 game ban which meant he would have missed the Germany game.

Saka played instead and was outstanding and so retained his place against the Germans.
Foden suffered a serious foot injury in training which restricted him to just a few minutes in the semi final and ruled him out of the final.

I don't think I've seen Foden have a great game for England yet and I'm a big fan of his. Do we just keep picking him based on his Man City form and hoping he'll turn it around for England? or do we pick the players who perform the best in an England shirt?

We spent 10+ years hoping Lampard and Gerrard would replicate their club form at international level.... all people cry about is club form, did they not learn anything

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:13 am**

Routine England win, Sterling to slot one dead centre of the goal and be lauded as player of the tournament again.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:18 am**

Mason mount……dear god

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:20 am**

HB Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:08 am
Just heard that Kane will not wear the One Love armband - another reason why this world cup is in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Neither England or Wales will wear the armbands due to running the risk of yellow cards apparently.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:27 am**

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:05 am
Early team news rumours suggesting a 4-3-3 to be played:

Pickford, Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Shaw, Rice, Mount, Bellingham, Saka, Sterling, Kane

Don’t mind it but Foden must be knocking on the door, Mount and Sterling could consider themselves fortunate, given their poor league form.

This is pretty much what I expected as when we discussed earlier Newcastle suggested

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:08 pm
I personally think this is the starting eleven he will go for against Iran.

Pickford
Trippier, Stones, Maguire, Shaw
Bellingham, Rice, Foden
Sterling, Kane, Saka

and my view was

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:28 pm
I think against weeker teams it will be this but Mount in midfield with Saka, Sterling and Foden fighting for the two attacking spots alongside Kane. Also might see White RB and Trippier LB

RV 's team is what we'll play in tougher games with mount dropping out

Your team I referenced for the tougher games was

RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:03 pm
What’s the 11 then?

Pickford
White Stones Maguire
Trippier Bellingham Rice Shaw
Saka Sterling/Foden
Kane

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:35 am**

HB Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:08 am
Just heard that Kane will not wear the One Love armband - another reason why this world cup is in the wrong place at the wrong time.

rainbow laces

; rainbow headbands

; rainbow shin pads

; rainbow under armour

; rainbow accessories all over instead then

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:39 am**

KRBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:12 am
I don't think I've seen Foden have a great game for England yet and I'm a big fan of his. Do we just keep picking him based on his Man City form and hoping he'll turn it around for England? or do we pick the players who perform the best in an England shirt?

We spent 10+ years hoping Lampard and Gerrard would replicate their club form at international level.... all people cry about is club form, did they not learn anything

I think you are spot on about Foden. He is superb for City, but then he has amazing players around him, not quite hit the same heights for England in my opinion.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:52 am**

Whatever your views on the armband thing, if you're going to bang on for days on end about inclusivity and making a principled stance, then don't back down at the last minute because it will only make you look weak and craven. I bet the Qatari hardliners are laughing their heads off.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:53 am**

Zlatan wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:35 am
rainbow laces ; rainbow headbands ; rainbow shin pads ; rainbow under armour ; rainbow accessories all over instead then

Why? Does no one respect other cultures either?

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:57 am**

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:59 am
Can you pay on the gate?

Looking at last nights crowd, it won't be a problem.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:40 am**

Just seen a report on sky sports from outside the ground and absolutely nobody there

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:48 am**

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:52 am
Whatever your views on the armband thing, if you're going to bang on for days on end about inclusivity and making a principled stance, then don't back down at the last minute because it will only make you look weak and craven. I bet the Qatari hardliners are laughing their heads off.

Why can’t the manager and his support team wear them ??

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:53 am**

Ptangyangkipperbang wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:40 am
Just seen a report on sky sports from outside the ground and absolutely nobody there

A close friend and son-in-law to be is covering the WC for 2 national dailys.
He's telling me that there's a very significant rent-a-crowd operation going on...much of which was in evidence at the opener last night, and will be used to bolster the seeming supports at various games...

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:07 pm**

Sick of hearing this nonsense about tournament experience and loyalty, just pick the best players.

Posted: **Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:08 pm**

The team from my op has been confirmed

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