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Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:02 pm
by Vegas Claret
On the assumption Dortmund can't turn down silly money how much do you reckon he will go for ? 150 million ?

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:16 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Who can afford to pay that with FFP rules?

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:25 pm
by tiger76
Difficult to value him, but surely he'll be in the £80-100m bracket.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:28 pm
by Clive 1960
Looks like he can become a really great footballer as all the attributes .

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:34 pm
by 4midable
City. All day long

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:00 pm
by Milltown1882
Liverpool - £120-150mil

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:03 pm
by Pickles
He's doing that, those kinds of performances on a regular basis, at nineteen-years-old. It's bewildering how good he is and how good he can become.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 4:03 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Dortmund are trying to get him to sign a new contract with a £150 million release clause.
Current deal runs out in 2025.

Easily worth £100 million, probably closer to £150 million, only 19yrs old and getting better

If he goes to the right club he won't stagnate like Sancho is at Utd.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:13 pm
by bobinho
Phenomenal player.

City probably. And over £100m easily. Can’t see Liverpool shelling out those kind of sums. Never have before so can’t see it now.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:36 pm
by Milltown1882
bobinho wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:13 pm
Phenomenal player.

City probably. And over £100m easily. Can’t see Liverpool shelling out those kind of sums. Never have before so can’t see it now.
They need to. Fabinho, Milner and Henderson aren’t getting any younger. They need at least 2 big big players over the next 2/3 windows in the middle of the park.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:38 pm
by Stanbill05
He needs to pick his next move very carefully (or stay put). He needs to be guaranteed to play every game wherever he goes and learn from the Sancho move..

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:43 pm
by bobinho
Milltown1882 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:36 pm
They need to. Fabinho, Milner and Henderson aren’t getting any younger. They need at least 2 big big players over the next 2/3 windows in the middle of the park.
Oh I agree, it's just the fee required to get him I think will scare them off. And besides, I don't think BVB to Liverpool is a step up.

Citeh, the two big Spanish clubs and perhaps BM or PSG for this lad I reckon. What a talent he is at only 19.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:56 pm
by Spijed
Milltown1882 wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:36 pm
They need to. Fabinho, Milner and Henderson aren’t getting any younger. They need at least 2 big big players over the next 2/3 windows in the middle of the park.
Weren't Liverpool linked with De Jong?

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:58 pm
by Casper
Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 3:02 pm
On the assumption Dortmund can't turn down silly money how much do you reckon he will go for ? 150 million ?
Can’t make a valuation based on his performance against the worst side in World Cup history.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:59 pm
by Jellybean
Spijed wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:56 pm
Weren't Liverpool linked with De Jong?
I thought it was United but funnily enough he really didn't want to move there!

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 6:04 pm
by Winstonswhite
His age is irrelevant for me. He’s one of those man childs like Rooney who is old before his years. I’m not sure he can get any better. Brilliant player.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:00 pm
by Vegas Claret
Casper wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:58 pm
Can’t make a valuation based on his performance against the worst side in World Cup history.
I'm not, he's been immense in the CL for Dortmund

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:24 pm
by MDWat
Bellingham is unreal. He’ll break every England cap record going if he stays injury free, he’s brilliant.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:38 pm
by NRC
How about we talk to Lille about Weah? JBG replacement

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:43 pm
by Stayingup
Haaland cost £50 million. Howcan he be worth 2 or 3 times more than that?

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:50 pm
by Milltown1882
Stayingup wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:43 pm
Haaland cost £50 million. Howcan he be worth 2 or 3 times more than that?
Because Haaland had a release clause. Real money he’d probably go for £150m+.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:58 pm
by Casper
Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:00 pm
I'm not, he's been immense in the CL for Dortmund
So why ask the question after an England game :shock:

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:01 pm
by TheOriginalLongsider
Aren’t Newcastle the richest club in the world now?

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:05 pm
by DCWat
I wonder if Dortmund will be retiring the number 22 shirt.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:09 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
MDWat wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:24 pm
Bellingham is unreal. He’ll break every England cap record going if he stays injury free, he’s brilliant.
Yes I agree. I’m not sure there’s a 19 year old with more potential in football.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:09 pm
by Vegas Claret
Casper wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:58 pm
So why ask the question after an England game :shock:
because Dortmund aren't playing today. Are you always this much fun ?

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 pm
by JarrowClaret
Casper wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:58 pm
Can’t make a valuation based on his performance against the worst side in World Cup history.
Out of interest what is Irans world ranking? I would argue that Qatar are worse and there are many more that I have seen over the years worse than them.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:10 pm
by TsarBomba
Managed to get a glimpse of him playing for Birmingham at Charlton when he first broke into the Blues first team.

He was very raw, but the engine and physicality was hugely impressive.

Has everything. Very fortunate he’s English, and a bargain at £150M if you build a team round him for the next 10+ years.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:35 pm
by MT03ALG
Bellingham should stay with Borussia Dortmund.
Look what happened to Sancho when he left Dortmund for Man Utd. !!

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:14 am
by superdimitri
MT03ALG wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 11:35 pm
Bellingham should stay with Borussia Dortmund.
Look what happened to Sancho when he left Dortmund for Man Utd. !!
Look at what happened to Sancho's bank account when he left Dortmund for Man Utd.

To be honest, no one could look at good at Man Utd.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:40 am
by IanMcL
Best staying where he is.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:48 am
by Loyal Supporter
JarrowClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 pm
Out of interest what is Irans world ranking? I would argue that Qatar are worse and there are many more that I have seen over the years worse than them.
You managed to post on an Internet message board but can't find Iran's FIFA ranking?

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:59 am
by Casper
JarrowClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 pm
Out of interest what is Irans world ranking? I would argue that Qatar are worse and there are many more that I have seen over the years worse than them.
Not my thoughts but resident football expert Vegas

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 8:46 am
by SouthLondonexile
He should stay where he is , and develop. JB is one hell of a talent.
I thought that Marcus Rashford made a big difference.
I notice too he has bulked up his upper body.
We have an array of young talent in the squad.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 am
by Rumbletonk
Casper wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:59 am
Not my thoughts but resident football expert Vegas
In fairness to Vegas your comments on this topic are annoying

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:27 pm
by Cheshireclaret
JarrowClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:52 pm
Out of interest what is Irans world ranking? I would argue that Qatar are worse and there are many more that I have seen over the years worse than them.
Iran are ranked 20th, the lowest ranked team in our group which is actually the toughest in the tournament, solely based on FIFA World Rankings :-

England (5)
USA (16)
Wales (19)
Iran (20)

Of course, it's a whole other debate as to whether the FIFA World Rankings are accurate or even worth the paper they're written on.........

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 3:34 pm
by JarrowClaret
Loyal Supporter wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:48 am
You managed to post on an Internet message board but can't find Iran's FIFA ranking?
Yep, I blame lazyness

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2022 6:02 pm
by Casper
Rumbletonk wrote:
Tue Nov 22, 2022 9:51 am
In fairness to Vegas your comments on this topic are annoying
Thanks

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 6:40 am
by Stanbill05
Everyone is capable of a bad game especially when the rest of the team and tactics aren't helping, but this performance is exactly why he should stay at Dortmund for a few more years. He isn't the finished product yet (despite the hysteria after the Iran game) and is droppable in a top top team, which is the last thing he needs.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 am
by Woodleyclaret
Overhyped, anonymous against USA and needs to be more active when needed. He was expected to become a big player in cm for England not dissappear.
Grealish did more in his cameo role yesterday

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 8:19 am
by SouthLondonexile
A wonderful player who was mobbed last night by the USA.
Every time there was an opportunity to do so, he was casually pushed by the opposition. Needed protection.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:04 am
by IanMcL
Bellingham a good young players, still very much learning. Consistency not there yet. Others more nature and better.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:08 am
by RVclaret
Bellingham is an outstanding young player who struggled last night in a woeful, snail paced all round performance. No more to it than that.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:19 am
by tiger76
Bellingham was poor last night, but he wasn't alone in having an off night, and the US clearly targeted him for some rough treatment, however that's something he'll need to get used to I'm afraid.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:26 am
by Bosscat
The way I saw the game was The USA had a game plan and it worked ... there are few teams that are easy to beat at a World Cup ... Wales on paper should have wiped the Floor with Iran ... Argentina got turned over by The Saudi team ... Germany by Japan ...

A draw wasn't a bad result in the greater scheme of things ...

Bellingham is young ... he will be a force in the long term ... give the lad a chance

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:29 am
by KRBFC
Pedri is on a different level to the rest of these youngsters

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:30 am
by RVclaret
KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:29 am
Pedri is on a different level to the rest of these youngsters
Different type of player to be fair. He is elite though.

Him, Bellingham and Musiala the 3 elite breakthrough talents right now.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 1:25 am
by Vegas Claret

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:00 am
by Quickenthetempo
RVclaret wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:30 am
Different type of player to be fair. He is elite though.

Him, Bellingham and Musiala the 3 elite breakthrough talents right now.
Foden must be in there or is he a bit more advanced in his development for this.

The run last night to set the goal us was prime Maradona. Slight off balance at pace, just knicking the ball off the opponent with the left foot.

Re: Bellingham

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:03 am
by RVclaret
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon Dec 05, 2022 8:00 am
Foden must be in there or is he a bit more advanced in his development for this.

The run last night to set the goal us was prime Maradona. Slight off balance at pace, just knicking the ball off the opponent with the left foot.
Yeah at 22 he's now a veteran compared to the aforementioned teenagers.

Agree though, he's absolutely superb - played a big role in unlocking them for the first too.