https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603181423787380737

RIP

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:10 pm

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603181423787380737

RIP

My guess is he'd probably drive up from Coventry.

Osint Technical (tweet Posted on the Russian Invades thread last night). By doing this he has actually caused a major problem to Russian Oligarchs who rely on tracking guidance through twitter for safe passage where local ground controls are kept out of the loop for their private jets.

he's just making it up as he goes along, Musk is a clown and this is his latest crusade, fortunately you don't track flights on twitter. For example his 3 jets are currently in Oakland, Long Beach and Hawthorne

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 15, 2022 1:38 pm

he's just making it up as he goes along, Musk is a clown and this is his latest crusade, fortunately you don't track flights on twitter. For example his 3 jets are currently in Oakland, Long Beach and Hawthorne

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... 79vFMmtWbQ

so if my kid is excited about grandma's visit for Xmas and posts the location of AA173 from flighttracker.com, with the comment "grandma's coming!!" She'd get suspended??

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:22 pm

https://twitter.com/osinttechnical/stat ... 79vFMmtWbQ

yep only on twitter so it's pointless

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:00 pm

yep only on twitter so it's pointless

I had you down as sharper than that. Much more criticism of Musk on Twitter than any of your conspiracy sites.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:25 pm

I had you down as sharper than that. Much more criticism of Musk on Twitter than any of your conspiracy sites.

you've lost me completely. I'm approaching this as people flapping that they wont be able to track flights which is simply not the case. You'll have to explain your angle mate

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:49 pm

you've lost me completely. I'm approaching this as people flapping that they wont be able to track flights which is simply not the case. You'll have to explain your angle mate

I don’t have an angle. I pointed to a well respected Technical source as explanation of the effect. Your response was strange.

lol, this was back in November,

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

"My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk"

Also love how in the OP tweet, Musk goes, "no doxxing," then two tweets later in the very same thread he goes, "anyone know who this guy is?"

He's a total clown.

And before some fanboy of his says it, yes, I know he's talking about real-time location doxxing. In other words, he's just banning the doxxing that's inconvenient to himself, but he's fine with using the platform he owns to dox others. This is all owning twitter has ever been about for Musk: power.

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:39 pm

I don’t have an angle. I pointed to a well respected Technical source as explanation of the effect. Your response was strange.

it's banned on Twitter, it has zero effect

Banned a load of journalists last night, who all have one thing in common, they have written stories about him that highlight his, er, "issues"

Course, I'm sure his fanboys (or just the ones who believe the news they want to read) will be along shortly to tell us all that he's sorting out twitter into a fairer place

Looks like we’ve got another Stable Genius on our hands.

Banning more and more Ukrainian accounts that have been around a. Long time, banned Aaron rupar who gives really balanced USA reports. Banned mastodon the fragile egomaniac narcissist is alive and well, tesla shares crashing, and possibly about to be hit with a tax bill by the us govt for $50 billion dollars

https://twitter.com/VeraJourova/status/ ... 0710369281

Not going down well with the regulatory authorities in the EU

The EU becoming the bastion of free speech?

That will go down like a bucket of sick on here

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:28 am

Banned a load of journalists last night, who all have one thing in common, they have written stories about him that highlight his, er, "issues"

Course, I'm sure his fanboys (or just the ones who believe the news they want to read) will be along shortly to tell us all that he's sorting out twitter into a fairer place

You’ve got to remember that those that bang on about free speech largely understand it to mean the freedom to say whatever they want without criticism from others. Sort of freedom of speech as a one way street.

I’m intrigued by the concept of an Elon Musk fanboy.

Do people genuinely becomes fans of billionaire businessmen?

Are there hats you can buy and half an half scarfs with him and Bezos on etc?

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:48 am

I’m intrigued by the concept of an Elon Musk fanboy.

Do people genuinely becomes fans of billionaire businessmen?

Are there hats you can buy and half an half scarfs with him and Bezos on etc?

I think its more to do with the replies he gets on twitter to be honest*

*well, the ones that aren't calling him an idiot or worse

Said on Rowls Musk thread, I don't actually mind him, think he's done some good stuff, but he's struggling with twitter because I think he loves the platform, but is having the same issues the previous owners had in making it an actual money making business

Banning actual journalists is a weird and completely self destructive move

As Elon Musk is now banning accounts that expose where his plane is I suggest everyone should now use Google to search Elon Musk plane exposed

Spiral wrote: ↑

Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:11 pm

lol, this was back in November,

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

"My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk"

Also love how in the OP tweet, Musk goes, "no doxxing," then two tweets later in the very same thread he goes, "anyone know who this guy is?"

He's a total clown.

It appears a few "activists" wearing facemasks have started stalking Musk. They apparently blocked in a car carrying one of his children and got on the roof.

Easy to understand how scary this is and why deliberately stalking people on twitter could be dangerous.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:33 am

It appears a few "activists" wearing facemasks have started stalking Musk. They apparently blocked in a car carrying one of his children and got on the roof.

Easy to understand how scary this is and why deliberately stalking people on twitter could be dangerous.

Yes, its called "doxxing"

Is that what the blocked journalists are doing?

Or is it just a massive coincidence they have all been very critical of Musk?

To be fair there wasn't an outrage when twitter was banning medical professionals who questioned the COVID narrative and got permanently banned but now there is because a few journalists have a temporary ban.

Both are wrong but Twitter is heading in a better direction.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:37 am

Yes, its called "doxxing"

Is that what the blocked journalists are doing?

Or is it just a massive coincidence they have all been very critical of Musk?

I don't exactly know. No doubt that's the accusation levelled at them, no doubt they plead innocence and "don't know why" their accounts have been suspended. It's all pantomime and I'm done with it.

The pantomime has spilled over onto the BBC though. I'm getting sick of their selective use of Twitter for "news" stories. Anything deemed embarrassing for Musk gets reported on the BBC. Yet his "Twitter Files", showing some genuinely shocking revelations, haven't even warranted a small internet story.

I simply do not understand the campaign against Musk. I find it completely without merit but it's a great example of herd behaviour and our propensity to attack a nice easy bogeyman as part of a group.

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:43 am

To be fair there wasn't an outrage when twitter was banning medical professionals who questioned the COVID narrative and got permanently banned but now there is because a few journalists have a temporary ban.

Both are wrong but Twitter is heading in a better direction.

Banning deliberate misinformation that actually killed people is slightly different from banning journalists who are critical of you one would think

But hey, I guess if you want to believe that, then whatever floats your boat

It will be nice for the chap who was intrigued by Elon Musk fanboys to see what they look like, at least.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:46 am

I don't exactly know. No doubt that's the accusation levelled at them, no doubt they plead innocence and "don't know why" their accounts have been suspended. It's all pantomime and I'm done with it.

The pantomime has spilled over onto the BBC though. I'm getting sick of their selective use of Twitter for "news" stories. Anything deemed embarrassing for Musk gets reported on the BBC. Yet his "Twitter Files", showing some genuinely shocking revelations, haven't even warranted a small internet story.

I simply do not understand the campaign against Musk. I find it completely without merit but it's a great example of herd behaviour and our propensity to attack a nice easy bogeyman as part of a group.

Right, so you've taking what Musk has said at face value without checking if he's right or wrong (I don't know if this is what the journalists did, but I find it very unlikely)

Isn't it just as simple as that he annoys the libs?

I mean, depressing as it may seem, there is an awful lot of that about from posters who are perfectly normal on everything else

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:43 am

Both are wrong but Twitter is heading in a better direction.

Twitter will either be dead or owned by someone else in 12 months. Probably a lot sooner.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:46 am

I don't exactly know. No doubt that's the accusation levelled at them, no doubt they plead innocence and "don't know why" their accounts have been suspended. It's all pantomime and I'm done with it.

The pantomime has spilled over onto the BBC though. I'm getting sick of their selective use of Twitter for "news" stories. Anything deemed embarrassing for Musk gets reported on the BBC. Yet his "Twitter Files", showing some genuinely shocking revelations, haven't even warranted a small internet story.

I simply do not understand the campaign against Musk. I find it completely without merit but it's a great example of herd behaviour and our propensity to attack a nice easy bogeyman as part of a group.

What were the “genuinely shocking revelations” from the Twitter files? All I saw was the previous admin struggling with how to del with a sitting president trying to foment an insurrection.

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:50 am

Twitter will either be dead or owned by someone else in 12 months. Probably a lot sooner.

More likely it just becomes another gab or truth social

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:47 am

Banning deliberate misinformation that actually killed people is slightly different from banning journalists who are critical of you one would think

But hey, I guess if you want to believe that, then whatever floats your boat

They got banned for saying you can still get Covid after being vaccincated.

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:52 am

They got banned for saying you can still get Covid after being vaccincated.

But everyone knows you can still get Covid after being vaccinated?

Its just its got a much less chance of killing you

Are you sure that is all they said?

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:50 am

Twitter will either be dead or owned by someone else in 12 months. Probably a lot sooner.

Dead sounds the better option

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:49 am

Right, so you've taking what Musk has said at face value without checking if he's right or wrong (I don't know if this is what the journalists did, but I find it very unlikely)

Isn't it just as simple as that he annoys the libs?

I mean, depressing as it may seem, there is an awful lot of that about from posters who are perfectly normal on everything else

Rowls nailed his colours to the Musk mask when he started his what do you think of Musk, and only wanted positive replies

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:49 am

Right, so you've taking what Musk has said at face value without checking if he's right or wrong

Urrrggghh. Not another "So what you're saying is..." post.

No. That is not what I've done.

I've described it as a pantomime, which I'm done with.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:55 am

I believe in truth and I pray the truth will out.

Amen to that brother*

*course, you are speaking about the truth you believe, rather than the actual truth but hey ho, small acorns and all that

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:53 am

But everyone knows you can still get Covid after being vaccinated?

Its just its got a much less chance of killing you

Are you sure that is all they said?

Yeah was a weird few weeks where doctors were getting banned for saying that. It was early days into it. Presume it was a ploy to not put people off getting the vaccine.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:55 am

Dead sounds the better option

I'd have to do a bit more work to get stuff the Russia thread*

*goes without saying that I hope that ends soon as well

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:52 am

They got banned for saying you can still get Covid after being vaccincated.

Honestly mate you're wasting your time. It's just the usual suspects, being triggered by very selective subjects , as usual.

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:56 am

Rowls nailed his colours to the Musk mask when he started his what do you think of Musk, and only wanted positive replies

No, I didn't.

I'll "nail my colours" here though:

Musk is an oddball, clearly. But people who make absurd amounts of money aren't likely to be average are they?

He's done some nasty little things. Calling the guy rescuing a child in a cave "a pedo" was low and despicable. However, I believe he's atoned for that and apologized. There hasn't been any repeats of this kind of nastiness that I know of.

People on here often misunderstand my motives. They think, in this instance that I want to defend Musk and adore him. I have a great deal of respect for his business achievements but nothing more. He comes across as a utter workaholic and I've met those kind of guys and they're boring as hell.

My real motive here is this: Trying to understand why there's such vitriol and nastiness aimed at him. NRC posted a few sensible reasons on the Musk thread. Other posters wrote eloquently about why they dislike him but I found the reasons to be completely lightweight. They were things like "the Toyota Prius was around before Tesla" - I simply do not understand why knowing this would make you dislike Elon Musk.

There's clearly a swelling of people who now have firm negative opinions on Musk and it's my growing belief that these opinions have been whipped up out of a lot of hot air.

It's nothing other than a pathetic and pointless proxy for being part of a tribe. It's this that I'm interested in understanding.

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:58 am

Yeah was a weird few weeks where doctors were getting banned for saying that. It was early days into it. Presume it was a ploy to not put people off getting the vaccine.

Fair enough, I don't remember seeing that but twitter is a big place!

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:58 am

Amen to that brother*

*course, you are speaking about the truth you believe, rather than the actual truth but hey ho, small acorns and all that

Nah, you're confusing truth with opinion.

More and more people are realising why we should not have implemented the lockdown policy. The disastrous results of this are getting clearer and clearer.

Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm

Fair enough, I don't remember seeing that but twitter is a big place!

It is. I hope Elon does not break it as its by far the best Social media App IMO. Lots of great stuff on it.

claretcarrot93 wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm

It is. I hope Elon does not break it as its by far the best Social media App IMO. Lots of great stuff on it.

Its brilliant, and the stuff you here about being negative can be sorted by sensible following numbers, and the mute and block buttons

Rowls wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:10 pm

Nah, you're confusing truth with opinion.

More and more people are realising why we should not have implemented the lockdown policy. The disastrous results of this are getting clearer and clearer.

Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.

Experts v very opinionated people on social media

Tough one

I used to have a lot of respect for what he has achieved in his business life and his ambitious projects. Once heard someone explain that humanity needs people like him to move the needle of progression - like getting to Mars - most normal entrepreneur wouldn't attempt anything like that.

However, his recent approach to twitter has really put me off. Thought his handling of Yoel Roth was particularly poor, regardless of how he had performed in his previous job. Looks like he is managing to (intentionally) politicise an already incredibly political platform.

Rowls wrote: ↑

Fri Dec 16, 2022 12:07 pm

....It's nothing other than a pathetic and pointless proxy for being part of a tribe. It's this that I'm interested in understanding.