WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

It Is What It Is · Post by **It Is What It Is** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:07 am

This controversial World Cup finishes Sunday, but who do fancy to lift the trophy.?
Seems irrelevant now England are out but personally I fancy Argentina for the sole reason that I cant stand the French! Mbappe laughing and taunting after Kanes miss was so disrespectful.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:13 am

Argentina for me… would be great to see the GOAT lift the trophy and follow in the previous all time greats footsteps.

Plus France have been quite boring to watch this tournament, a rather lucky side.

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:34 am

It's a pity they both can't lose. I'll settle for a 0-0 draw, two red cards apiece, (Both Messy and Mbappppppppe sent off), ten yellow cards and a riot in the stadium with tear gas and live rounds used by the authorities to quell the violence that results in the head of FIFA being injured. That should make for good viewing and be a fitting end to this event

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:59 am

Another who would like both to lose, as they can't I will go for France to win on penalties with Messi missing the deciding penalty, I would even switch over and enjoy listening to Lineker was this to happen.

Also if France do win on penalties I hope they have the decency to charge across the line of Argentina players and laugh at them following their conduct against the Dutch when winning the shoot out

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:51 am

The Argies for me, I hope Messi has an influential part of the occasion

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:09 am

Don't care and won't be watching. Don't particularly like either team and I know it might sound like sour grapes but the officials performances in the England France game has just soured it for me. I was far more interested in watching the QPR Burnley match last week.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:10 am

Will Messi be the first convicted criminal to lift the world Cup?

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:34 am

Who knows? He’ll certainly be one of the best players ever to do so if he does.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:44 am

Backed the Argies to win it before the tournament so supporting them for financial reasons. Would quite like to see Messi win it as well.

CaptJohn · Post by **CaptJohn** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:53 am

My wifes just told me she has France in the works sweep so it's the Frogs for me.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:00 am

Messi deserves it, so Argentina

And to be fair, they have got better and better as the tournament has progressed

MT03ALG · Post by **MT03ALG** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:14 am

Much more important: League Game 23: Burnley or Middlesbrough ?

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:18 am

Argentina for me.

Best two teams in the final.

Should be a cracker

Messi and Mbappe. Fantastic.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:41 am

Not fussed who wins on Sunday the main thing is we beat Boro this weekend.

Got a sneaky feeling the French will rag it again though.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am

Hope the best side of a great game wins.

Shaggy · Post by **Shaggy** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am

Defo the French to win. Don’t mind our Gaelic cousins.

Plus humour level would be high to see Messi ( not a patch on Maradona ) not win and the bum licking commentators go into meltdown over it.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:26 am

Messi. He's the best ever regardless but seeing him winning the World Cup would be brilliant. The documentary about him on iPlayer is very good. Argentinian fans have been immense too.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:38 am

Pickles wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:26 am
Messi. He's the best ever regardless but seeing him winning the World Cup would be brilliant. The documentary about him on iPlayer is very good. Argentinian fans have been immense too.

Exactly this!

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:39 am

Just love to see France win it again , keep the Cup in the EU for me .

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:40 am

I think it may be Extra Time and Penalties.

Argentina will have the edge with Martinez

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:38 pm

I'd like the French to win it because they are European, our neighbours and they didn't invade the Falkland Islands. Plus they have the best national anthem and the only one to be used in a Beatles song.

Albeit, I have some suspicion they have their beady Gallic eyes on the Isle of White. Frankly, if they did invade the Isle of White I'm far to old to go to war but I'd be more than happy to volunteer one or two of the keyboard warriors from this site to go off and do battle with the Foreign legion etc.

On the one side you'd have rocket launchers and grenades and on the other: "yah booh sucks I know someone at the club who said" (in a whiny voice). It would be a close contest because after ten minutes of listening to UTC whining the French would probably start shooting themselves.

Anyway - where was I - it's the French for me Allez Lez Bleu and marchons marchons - Marchons qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons

Dum dum de dah dee dum deee dah...!

mick1882@ · Post by **mick1882@** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:46 pm

Actually couldn’t care less who wins this one

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:01 pm

Argentina. They got a little Emboldened in the early 80’s, but other than that, no probs.

The surrender monkeys on the other hand… very short memories. They have been our natural enemies for millennia, but when they really needed us, we turned up. Since then, they’ve just been gits.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:04 pm

I want Argentina to win it, Messi's last game at a World Cup so would be a fitting end for him, plus France have won enough in my lifetime

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:05 pm

Shaggy wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am
Defo the French to win. Don’t mind our Gaelic cousins.

Plus humour level would be high to see Messi ( not a patch on Maradona ) not win and the bum licking commentators go into meltdown over it.

Don’t you mean Gallic?

The Gaels were a Celtic tribe that inhabited Ireland, Scotland, and the Isle of Man, where many of their descendants live today.
Gallic is an adjective that means relating to the French.

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:26 pm

bobinho wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:01 pm
Argentina. They got a little Emboldened in the early 80’s, but other than that, no probs.

The surrender monkeys on the other hand… very short memories. They have been our natural enemies for millennia, but when they really needed us, we turned up. Since then, they’ve just been gits.

Another who'd like to see no winner ...

Instead of moaning on about the Falklands, Argentina would do well to remember that from 1976-1983 ( including the 1978 WC ), they were ruled by a Military dictatorship. In that time, over 12,000 political opponents went missing, they are known now as the " disappeared ". Many were drugged or killed, and alive or not, bodies were dropped 150 miles offshore in the South Atlantic. Pregnant females were allowed to live until giving birth, after which they were murdered and the babies given to favoured childless couples. The national humiliation of the Falklands defeat was a major factor in their removal the following year, when fresh democratic elections were held in December 1983. A thank you would be nice ....

As for the French, a senior British diplomat summed it up well, " You've got to hand it to the French, they're always there when they need you ! "

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:27 pm

bobinho wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:05 pm
Don’t you mean Gallic?

The Gaels were a Celtic tribe that inhabited Ireland, Scotland, and the Isle of Man, where many of their descendants live today.
Gallic is an adjective that means relating to the French.

No scooby snacks for Shaggy after that howler....!

Middle-agedClaret · Post by **Middle-agedClaret** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:19 pm

France. Would always have preferred them, even without the moronic anti-English song which formed part of the post-match celebrations for the Argentinians after the semi-final.
But as others on this thread have also said - I’m far more interested in BFC’result.
UTC.

Claretitus · Post by **Claretitus** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:29 pm

Again, more interested in the Boro game. Interesting to hear on radio earlier that there is a virus sweeping the French camp, with several French journalists believing it is COVID. 2 centre backs in Varane and Kounde apparently come down with it, plus a few more.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:32 pm

Claretitus wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:29 pm
Again, more interested in the Boro game. Interesting to hear on radio earlier that there is a virus sweeping the French camp, with several French journalists believing it is COVID. 2 centre backs in Varane and Kounde apparently come down with it, plus a few more.

have Argentina been sending a Typhoid Mary into the French camp

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:35 pm

Shaggy wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am
Defo the French to win. Don’t mind our Gaelic cousins.

Plus humour level would be high to see Messi ( not a patch on Maradona ) not win and the bum licking commentators go into meltdown over it.

The Irish and Scots didn't go to the World Cup Shaggy

bit of an OG there

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:35 pm

As someone said somewhere else it's a bit Man U v Arsenal this one.

That said I favour Argentina. Never mind the daft song it only shows they are still smarting.

Messi to score with the winner with an exocet.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:04 pm

Messi and Mbappe both to get injured in the warm-up to stop the tv channels endlessly fawning over them. The game to be declared null and void following a pitch invasion and the World Cup presented to whoever comes 3rd

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:15 pm

France, just for a laugh on social media tbh.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:27 pm

I sit in the camp of wanting Messi to prove he's the greatest. Everyone loves a fairytale in football and to see him lift the world cup at his last chance of doing so, against the favourites for the trophy, would be a special moment.
Wish Morocco had made it though! Id have picked that fairy tale ending over the Messi one!

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:29 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:13 am
Argentina for me… would be great to see the GOAT lift the trophy and follow in the previous all time greats footsteps.

Plus France have been quite boring to watch this tournament, a rather lucky side.

Sort of with you there, I edge towards Argentina purely for Messi

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:55 pm

I’d much rather neither were in the final but if I had to pick, setting aside views of either country, I have to plump for Argentina.

I’d love to see Messi finish off his career with a World Cup winners medal. My foot is firmly in Messi’s corner when it comes to the Messi v Ronaldo debate and although even harder to judge fairly, I have him down as the best player to play the game.

A ridiculously, naturally gifted player, the likes of we won’t see again for perhaps a generation or more.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:52 pm

https://twitter.com/ForcesNews/status/1 ... 9617299456

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:09 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:52 pm
https://twitter.com/ForcesNews/status/1 ... 9617299456

If we are going to get offended by a silly song sung by people with little or no knowledge of the Falklands war, we might as well stop watching football. Ten German bombers, anyone!?

I’m not offended by their song and I’m not going to be offended on someone else’s behalf, particularly when we are no better ourselves, when it comes to singing ‘offensive’ songs.

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:16 pm

100% in the Messi camp. Although he'll never be a Robbie Blake he deserves to add the World Cup to his list of trophies.

A true genius

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:22 pm

Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:16 pm
100% in the Messi camp. Although he'll never be a Robbie Blake he deserves to add the World Cup to his list of trophies.

A true genius

I’m a huge Robbie fan - my favourite Burnley player by some distance.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to have Messi playing for your team week in week out.

Claret Till I Die · Post by **Claret Till I Die** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:55 pm

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:22 pm
I’m a huge Robbie fan - my favourite Burnley player by some distance.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to have Messi playing for your team week in week out.

A different universe to what the majority of football fans are used to

Jeffbfc · Post by **Jeffbfc** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:01 pm

France, rather them than the Argies.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:30 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:52 pm
https://twitter.com/ForcesNews/status/1 ... 9617299456

It must lose something in translation because that's a crap song.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:58 pm

Wanting one of these two to win is like asking which of your legs you don't want chopping off.

I'm hoping for Bedouin hordes to invade the stadium and slaughter everyone.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:25 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:58 pm
Wanting one of these two to win is like asking which of your legs you don't want chopping off.

I'm hoping for Bedouin hordes to invade the stadium and slaughter everyone.

Spot on BOT..

Feliz Navidad amigo.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:35 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:10 am
Will Messi be the first convicted criminal to lift the world Cup?

Probably, at least Bobby Moore waited till he'd lifted the trophy before he went robbing bracelets

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:13 pm

Jeffbfc wrote: ↑
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:01 pm
France, rather them than the Argies.

Quite so.
Vive la France.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:05 am

Allez les bleus.Hands off The Falklands!

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:37 am

Argentina. For a whole host of reasons not least because having endured plastic French "football" fans celebrating two bloody World Cups and one Euros I really don't want it again.