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WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:07 am
by It Is What It Is
This controversial World Cup finishes Sunday, but who do fancy to lift the trophy.?
Seems irrelevant now England are out but personally I fancy Argentina for the sole reason that I cant stand the French! Mbappe laughing and taunting after Kanes miss was so disrespectful.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:13 am
by RVclaret
Argentina for me… would be great to see the GOAT lift the trophy and follow in the previous all time greats footsteps.

Plus France have been quite boring to watch this tournament, a rather lucky side.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:34 am
by CaptJohn
It's a pity they both can't lose. I'll settle for a 0-0 draw, two red cards apiece, (Both Messy and Mbappppppppe sent off), ten yellow cards and a riot in the stadium with tear gas and live rounds used by the authorities to quell the violence that results in the head of FIFA being injured. That should make for good viewing and be a fitting end to this event :twisted:

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:59 am
by claretonthecoast1882
Another who would like both to lose, as they can't I will go for France to win on penalties with Messi missing the deciding penalty, I would even switch over and enjoy listening to Lineker was this to happen.

Also if France do win on penalties I hope they have the decency to charge across the line of Argentina players and laugh at them following their conduct against the Dutch when winning the shoot out

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:51 am
by claptrappers_union
The Argies for me, I hope Messi has an influential part of the occasion

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:09 am
by Firthy
Don't care and won't be watching. Don't particularly like either team and I know it might sound like sour grapes but the officials performances in the England France game has just soured it for me. I was far more interested in watching the QPR Burnley match last week.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:10 am
by Spijed
Will Messi be the first convicted criminal to lift the world Cup?

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:34 am
by bobinho
Who knows? He’ll certainly be one of the best players ever to do so if he does.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:44 am
by jrgbfc
Backed the Argies to win it before the tournament so supporting them for financial reasons. Would quite like to see Messi win it as well.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:53 am
by CaptJohn
My wifes just told me she has France in the works sweep so it's the Frogs for me.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:00 am
by Lancasterclaret
Messi deserves it, so Argentina

And to be fair, they have got better and better as the tournament has progressed

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:14 am
by MT03ALG
Much more important: League Game 23: Burnley or Middlesbrough ?

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:18 am
by MrTopTier
Argentina for me.

Best two teams in the final.

Should be a cracker

Messi and Mbappe. Fantastic.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:41 am
by tiger76
Not fussed who wins on Sunday the main thing is we beat Boro this weekend.

Got a sneaky feeling the French will rag it again though.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:49 am
by Buxtonclaret
Hope the best side of a great game wins.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am
by Shaggy
Defo the French to win. Don’t mind our Gaelic cousins.

Plus humour level would be high to see Messi ( not a patch on Maradona ) not win and the bum licking commentators go into meltdown over it.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:26 am
by Pickles
Messi. He's the best ever regardless but seeing him winning the World Cup would be brilliant. The documentary about him on iPlayer is very good. Argentinian fans have been immense too.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:38 am
by MDWat
Pickles wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:26 am
Messi. He's the best ever regardless but seeing him winning the World Cup would be brilliant. The documentary about him on iPlayer is very good. Argentinian fans have been immense too.
Exactly this!

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:39 am
by Tribesmen
Just love to see France win it again , keep the Cup in the EU for me .

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:40 am
by JohnMac
I think it may be Extra Time and Penalties.

Argentina will have the edge with Martinez

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:38 pm
by ClaretPete001
I'd like the French to win it because they are European, our neighbours and they didn't invade the Falkland Islands. Plus they have the best national anthem and the only one to be used in a Beatles song.

Albeit, I have some suspicion they have their beady Gallic eyes on the Isle of White. Frankly, if they did invade the Isle of White I'm far to old to go to war but I'd be more than happy to volunteer one or two of the keyboard warriors from this site to go off and do battle with the Foreign legion etc.

On the one side you'd have rocket launchers and grenades and on the other: "yah booh sucks I know someone at the club who said" (in a whiny voice). It would be a close contest because after ten minutes of listening to UTC whining the French would probably start shooting themselves.

Anyway - where was I - it's the French for me Allez Lez Bleu and marchons marchons - Marchons qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons

Dum dum de dah dee dum deee dah...!

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 2:46 pm
by mick1882@
Actually couldn’t care less who wins this one

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:01 pm
by bobinho
Argentina. They got a little Emboldened in the early 80’s, but other than that, no probs.

The surrender monkeys on the other hand… very short memories. They have been our natural enemies for millennia, but when they really needed us, we turned up. Since then, they’ve just been gits.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:04 pm
by Vegas Claret
I want Argentina to win it, Messi's last game at a World Cup so would be a fitting end for him, plus France have won enough in my lifetime

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:05 pm
by bobinho
Shaggy wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am
Defo the French to win. Don’t mind our Gaelic cousins.

Plus humour level would be high to see Messi ( not a patch on Maradona ) not win and the bum licking commentators go into meltdown over it.
Don’t you mean Gallic?

The Gaels were a Celtic tribe that inhabited Ireland, Scotland, and the Isle of Man, where many of their descendants live today.
Gallic is an adjective that means relating to the French.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:26 pm
by Clarets4me
bobinho wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:01 pm
Argentina. They got a little Emboldened in the early 80’s, but other than that, no probs.

The surrender monkeys on the other hand… very short memories. They have been our natural enemies for millennia, but when they really needed us, we turned up. Since then, they’ve just been gits.
Another who'd like to see no winner ...

Instead of moaning on about the Falklands, Argentina would do well to remember that from 1976-1983 ( including the 1978 WC ), they were ruled by a Military dictatorship. In that time, over 12,000 political opponents went missing, they are known now as the " disappeared ". Many were drugged or killed, and alive or not, bodies were dropped 150 miles offshore in the South Atlantic. Pregnant females were allowed to live until giving birth, after which they were murdered and the babies given to favoured childless couples. The national humiliation of the Falklands defeat was a major factor in their removal the following year, when fresh democratic elections were held in December 1983. A thank you would be nice ....

As for the French, a senior British diplomat summed it up well, " You've got to hand it to the French, they're always there when they need you ! "

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 4:27 pm
by ClaretPete001
bobinho wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:05 pm
Don’t you mean Gallic?

The Gaels were a Celtic tribe that inhabited Ireland, Scotland, and the Isle of Man, where many of their descendants live today.
Gallic is an adjective that means relating to the French.
No scooby snacks for Shaggy after that howler....!

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:19 pm
by Middle-agedClaret
France. Would always have preferred them, even without the moronic anti-English song which formed part of the post-match celebrations for the Argentinians after the semi-final.
But as others on this thread have also said - I’m far more interested in BFC’result.
UTC.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:29 pm
by Claretitus
Again, more interested in the Boro game. Interesting to hear on radio earlier that there is a virus sweeping the French camp, with several French journalists believing it is COVID. 2 centre backs in Varane and Kounde apparently come down with it, plus a few more.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:32 pm
by Bosscat
Claretitus wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:29 pm
Again, more interested in the Boro game. Interesting to hear on radio earlier that there is a virus sweeping the French camp, with several French journalists believing it is COVID. 2 centre backs in Varane and Kounde apparently come down with it, plus a few more.
🙄 have Argentina been sending a Typhoid Mary into the French camp 🙄

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:35 pm
by Bosscat
Shaggy wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:09 am
Defo the French to win. Don’t mind our Gaelic cousins.

Plus humour level would be high to see Messi ( not a patch on Maradona ) not win and the bum licking commentators go into meltdown over it.
The Irish and Scots didn't go to the World Cup Shaggy 😉 bit of an OG there 🤣🤣🤣

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 5:35 pm
by HahaYeah
As someone said somewhere else it's a bit Man U v Arsenal this one.

That said I favour Argentina. Never mind the daft song it only shows they are still smarting.

Messi to score with the winner with an exocet. :geek:

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:04 pm
by SalisburyClaret
Messi and Mbappe both to get injured in the warm-up to stop the tv channels endlessly fawning over them. The game to be declared null and void following a pitch invasion and the World Cup presented to whoever comes 3rd

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:15 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
France, just for a laugh on social media tbh.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:27 pm
by Conroy92
I sit in the camp of wanting Messi to prove he's the greatest. Everyone loves a fairytale in football and to see him lift the world cup at his last chance of doing so, against the favourites for the trophy, would be a special moment.
Wish Morocco had made it though! Id have picked that fairy tale ending over the Messi one!

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:29 pm
by Burnley1989
RVclaret wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:13 am
Argentina for me… would be great to see the GOAT lift the trophy and follow in the previous all time greats footsteps.

Plus France have been quite boring to watch this tournament, a rather lucky side.
Sort of with you there, I edge towards Argentina purely for Messi

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 6:55 pm
by DCWat
I’d much rather neither were in the final but if I had to pick, setting aside views of either country, I have to plump for Argentina.

I’d love to see Messi finish off his career with a World Cup winners medal. My foot is firmly in Messi’s corner when it comes to the Messi v Ronaldo debate and although even harder to judge fairly, I have him down as the best player to play the game.

A ridiculously, naturally gifted player, the likes of we won’t see again for perhaps a generation or more.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 7:52 pm
by Spijed

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:09 pm
by DCWat
If we are going to get offended by a silly song sung by people with little or no knowledge of the Falklands war, we might as well stop watching football. Ten German bombers, anyone!?

I’m not offended by their song and I’m not going to be offended on someone else’s behalf, particularly when we are no better ourselves, when it comes to singing ‘offensive’ songs.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:16 pm
by Claret Till I Die
100% in the Messi camp. Although he'll never be a Robbie Blake he deserves to add the World Cup to his list of trophies.

A true genius

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:22 pm
by DCWat
Claret Till I Die wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:16 pm
100% in the Messi camp. Although he'll never be a Robbie Blake he deserves to add the World Cup to his list of trophies.

A true genius
I’m a huge Robbie fan - my favourite Burnley player by some distance.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to have Messi playing for your team week in week out.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:55 pm
by Claret Till I Die
DCWat wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 8:22 pm
I’m a huge Robbie fan - my favourite Burnley player by some distance.

I can’t imagine what it must be like to have Messi playing for your team week in week out.
A different universe to what the majority of football fans are used to

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:01 pm
by Jeffbfc
France, rather them than the Argies.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:30 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
It must lose something in translation because that's a crap song.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:58 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Wanting one of these two to win is like asking which of your legs you don't want chopping off.

I'm hoping for Bedouin hordes to invade the stadium and slaughter everyone.

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:25 pm
by conyoviejo
Bin Ont Turf wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:58 pm
Wanting one of these two to win is like asking which of your legs you don't want chopping off.

I'm hoping for Bedouin hordes to invade the stadium and slaughter everyone.
Spot on BOT..👏👍
Feliz Navidad amigo.😁

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:35 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Spijed wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:10 am
Will Messi be the first convicted criminal to lift the world Cup?
Probably, at least Bobby Moore waited till he'd lifted the trophy before he went robbing bracelets

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2022 11:13 pm
by ElectroClaret
Jeffbfc wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 9:01 pm
France, rather them than the Argies.
Quite so.
Vive la France.🇫🇷

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:05 am
by Woodleyclaret
Allez les bleus.Hands off The Falklands!

Re: WC FINAL. Argentina or France?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2022 6:37 am
by ecc
Argentina. For a whole host of reasons not least because having endured plastic French "football" fans celebrating two bloody World Cups and one Euros I really don't want it again.