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Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:06 pm
by Selby Claret
Signed for Viktoria Plzen back in his homeland

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:07 pm
by Bosscat
Selby Claret wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:06 pm
Signed for Viktoria Plzen back in his homeland
Good for him 👍

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:09 pm
by claret2018
Surprised a low end championship club hasn’t taken a punt on him. He had a good track record at that level, albeit a good few years ago. Effectively killed his career coming to Burnley.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:10 pm
by bobinho
Good luck to him. Deserved better than he got here.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:18 pm
by KLClaret
Was a big fan.Criminally underused

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:21 pm
by elwaclaret
Would have liked the chance to see him in this squad as I, like a lot of others, feel we did not see the best of him. Hope he starts enjoying his football again and his career gets an Indian summer.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:49 pm
by Burnleyareback2
Criminally overrated on here.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:01 pm
by Jamesy
Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:49 pm
Criminally overrated on here.
Hogwash. Leading scorer in Championship prior to us signing him and not utilising him properly. Would shine in our current team.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:15 pm
by Burnleyareback2
Jamesy wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:01 pm
Hogwash. Leading scorer in Championship prior to us signing him and not utilising him properly. Would shine in our current team.
Of course, file away with Besart Berisha.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:20 pm
by Billyblah
I seem to remember a game where we were desperate for an equaliser with the height of Kevin Long being preferred over Vydra in the hope of scoring a goal. As much as I appreciated Sean Dyche, the was a particularly bizarre decision.
Vydra offered something different but was criminally underused during his time at Burnley.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:27 pm
by Spike
Where he has ended up is where his ability has dictated

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:28 pm
by Vegas Claret
Spike wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:27 pm
Where he has ended up is where his ability has dictated
or maybe he's earned enough and decided to put his mrs and family first. Good luck to him

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:32 pm
by bfcjg
Spike wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:27 pm
Where he has ended up is where his ability has dictated
Or his injury.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:37 pm
by bobinho
Spike wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:27 pm
Where he has ended up is where his ability has dictated
There are many reasons why he’s plying his trade at home now. Ability isn’t one of ‘em.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:04 pm
by tiger76
Good luck to Vydra it didn't work out for him at Burnley, however he did bag some vital goals during his stint with us.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:29 pm
by 4midable
Theyl **** their league and get european footie
Fair play

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:40 pm
by IanMcL
Good luck to the lad. Long way back from a cruciate and he did that, trying his best, for us.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:03 am
by claptrappers_union
I believe he scored his final goal for us with that injury.

I rated Vydra. I think he’d be the missing piece in this current team because he’s a runner. Him and Tella upfront would’ve been good.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:53 am
by Damo
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Look at those stats.
How some people laud him and slate Barnes is beyond me

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:57 am
by Vegas Claret
Damo wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:53 am
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Look at those stats.
How some people laud him and slate Barnes is beyond me
the clue might be in the brackets

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:15 am
by bfcmik
claptrappers_union wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:03 am
I think he’d be the missing piece in this current team because he’s a runner. Him and Tella upfront would’ve been good.
He wouldn't have been available until now anyway. But he was the one who decided our contract offer wasn't enough (even though, or maybe because, we were paying him whilst injured) so he wouldn't discuss it any longer and that he wouldn't return to the club to allow them to monitor or arrange his recuperation progress in order to try and stay involved. Completely burned his bridges.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:15 am
by wilks_bfc
Damo wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:53 am
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Look at those stats.
How some people laud him and slate Barnes is beyond me
Alternative view
2021/22 - 2 goals in 5 starts
2020/21 - 3 in 15
2019/20 - 2 in 7
2018/19 - 1 in 3

Nobody is lauding him and slating Barnes, but it’s blatantly obvious that he wasn’t used when needed. He brought something different to the frontline - mainly speed & movement, which would have been useful to utilise sometimes

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:48 am
by Jamesy
Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:15 pm
Of course, file away with Besart Berisha.
Football and message boards are all about opinions. That’s why I think it is fine to say I believe you are talking out of your @rse.
You are probably also in the Weghorst is rubbish camp also?

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:10 am
by MancunianClaret
Played through a hernia and cruciate injury for us during the relegation battle last season. More than I'd ask of any player in a claret and blue shirt. Brilliant player and good luck to him for the future.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:28 am
by SouthLondonexile
Yes his stats are not at all flattering, however that was much more to do with his lack of playing time.
He was not one of SD’s favourites that’s for sure.
Good luck Matty Vydra.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:53 am
by gandhisflipflop
It’s a perfect example of why you can’t rely on stats alone in judging a footballer. You have to have a good understanding of the game also, which a lot don’t have imo. It can both hide the lack of football ability, or make players seem worse than what they actually are for example

Stats masked Chris Woods footballing ability, yet how many would have signed Manuel Benson on stats alone?

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:05 am
by Tribesmen
Every time i think of him it's the chance at home to Palace spring to my mind 3-3 last minute and he hit the keeper .

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:07 am
by milkcrate_mosh
wilks_bfc wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:15 am
Alternative view
2021/22 - 1 goals in 5 starts
2020/21 - 3 in 15
2019/20 - 1 in 7
2018/19 - 1 in 3
You're including goals he scored as a sub in this though. He only scored more than 1 goal in the games he started in the 20/21 season (I've edited above)

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:13 am
by daveisaclaret
I wasn't too big of a Vydra fan but I have to say I can't blame him for having no interest in staying here even after the change of management. Can't imagine how he must have felt in those 6 games in 2019 where he saw Peter Crouch, signed from Stoke reserves, come on ahead of him. And then a year later to activate his option for another year when Dyche still wasn't interested in playing him.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:28 am
by Targetman
daveisaclaret wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:13 am
I wasn't too big of a Vydra fan but I have to say I can't blame him for having no interest in staying here even after the change of management. Can't imagine how he must have felt in those 6 games in 2019 where he saw Peter Crouch, signed from Stoke reserves, come on ahead of him. And then a year later to activate his option for another year when Dyche still wasn't interested in playing him.
His agent didn't help the situation with some of the things he was putting out to the media regarding his contract deal at the time.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:30 am
by Culmclaret
Good player. Didn’t work out for him with us which is a pity. May have been the victim of Dyche’s fin d’epoch stubbornness.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:33 am
by Burnleyareback2
Jamesy wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 7:48 am
Football and message boards are all about opinions. That’s why I think it is fine to say I believe you are talking out of your @rse.
You are probably also in the Weghorst is rubbish camp also?
Completely different players and attitudes. Weghorst always looked interested and would chase every ball down.

May I say, I think you got caught up in some amazing hysteria around Vydra that built up every game he didn’t play.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:59 am
by wilks_bfc
milkcrate_mosh wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:07 am
You're including goals he scored as a sub in this though. He only scored more than 1 goal in the games he started in the 20/21 season (I've edited above)
And that’s kinda my point - you can make stats look the way you want

I’m not saying he would have been the saviour but getting a sporadic 10 mins here and there, we didn’t really see the best of him

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:00 am
by Rileybobs
wilks_bfc wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:59 am
And that’s kinda my point - you can make stats look the way you want

I’m not saying he would have been the saviour but getting a sporadic 10 mins here and there, we didn’t really see the best of him
Maybe we did.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:10 am
by martin_p
gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:53 am
It’s a perfect example of why you can’t rely on stats alone in judging a footballer. You have to have a good understanding of the game also, which a lot don’t have imo. It can both hide the lack of football ability, or make players seem worse than what they actually are for example

Stats masked Chris Woods footballing ability, yet how many would have signed Manuel Benson on stats alone?
Not sure what point you’re trying to make here, is it that Vydra is better than Wood?

The love for Vydra is one of those things I just don’t get and never will.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:15 am
by milkcrate_mosh
wilks_bfc wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:59 am
And that’s kinda my point - you can make stats look the way you want

I’m not saying he would have been the saviour but getting a sporadic 10 mins here and there, we didn’t really see the best of him
But he objectively didn't score "2 goals in 5 starts" if in those 5 games he only score once did he? You're making the stats "look the way you want" by making them up.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:39 am
by gandhisflipflop
martin_p wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:10 am
Not sure what point you’re trying to make here, is it that Vydra is better than Wood?

The love for Vydra is one of those things I just don’t get and never will.
The point I’m trying to make is quoting stats to prove a players ability is futile. Vydra never got a fair crack of the whip during his time here and the one time he did get a little run in the side, our team looked to play better.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 12:25 pm
by Jamesy
Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:33 am
Completely different players and attitudes. Weghorst always looked interested and would chase every ball down.

May I say, I think you got caught up in some amazing hysteria around Vydra that built up every game he didn’t play.
Nonsense.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:08 pm
by KRBFC
I supported Vydra while he was here, with hindsight he was nowhere near good enough and it's quite telling he's now playing for Plzen and not another PL club. He got better every game he didn't play.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:12 pm
by Shaggy
Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Mon Dec 19, 2022 9:49 pm
Criminally overrated on here.
Disagree.

He was criminally underused by our dinosaur ex manager.

Had a good record admittedly in the championship but always seemed to have that something about him whenever he played. Just never got the chance with us at all.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:49 pm
by martin_p
Shaggy wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:12 pm
Disagree.

He was criminally underused by our dinosaur ex manager.

Had a good record admittedly in the championship but always seemed to have that something about him whenever he played. Just never got the chance with us at all.
It’s a shame that ‘something about him’ wasn’t goals.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:29 pm
by Shaggy
martin_p wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:49 pm
It’s a shame that ‘something about him’ wasn’t goals.
How was he supposed to score goals when his appearances were reduced to 10 min cameos in what was a very low scoring team in general?

He was another option for us who created problems due to his movement and had a little bit of pace.

Wasn’t a 6 ft 2 in brick shithousee though who could defend or be a threat in the air.

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:12 am
by Damo
It wasn't just our manager who didn't rate him though was it?

Re: Vydra finds new club

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:49 am
by wbfc
He was to goals what water is to a desert... even looking at his international career he has only scored 7 goals in 46 games ...

Not sure why he is so highly rated over about 4 years he did not do much at BFC...

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