Absolute tosh. Were you even at the game?tarkys_ears wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:04 pmWe never had a chance of winning that..not a sniff
Might have only been 2-0 but we weren't within a million miles of making it anything other than 3-0
A real chance to put some real meaning to out campaign but completely outbossed and outgunned.
I certainly hope the man utd fans appreciate that from Ten Haag cos they ain't gonna see many more performances of that kind of domination
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I thought it was absolutely odd to get the last sacked manager commentating on a game about the club he was sacked by. Whoever thought that was a good idea in sky needs to give their heads a wobble. Also mark Chapman into the mix with Neville , what a strange concoction.
I would have rather had listened to Eni Eluko
I would have rather had listened to Eni Eluko
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He deserves a statue for me but defo was a little bitter tonight
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Thanks for your comprehensive review of our performance, saves me reading any other match reports!tarkys_ears wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:04 pmWe never had a chance of winning that..not a sniff
Might have only been 2-0 but we weren't within a million miles of making it anything other than 3-0
A real chance to put some real meaning to out campaign but completely outbossed and outgunned.
I certainly hope the man utd fans appreciate that from Ten Haag cos they ain't gonna see many more performances of that kind of domination
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Didn’t happen for us tonight in front of goal but this team is certainly playing football to be proud of.
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tarkys_ears wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:04 pmWe never had a chance of winning that..not a sniff
Might have only been 2-0 but we weren't within a million miles of making it anything other than 3-0
A real chance to put some real meaning to out campaign but completely outbossed and outgunned.
I certainly hope the man utd fans appreciate that from Ten Haag cos they ain't gonna see many more performances of that kind of domination
Good bait... Or you're a bellend.
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Alan Pace pretty much described Dyche as divisive and negative in his latest interview which is a real shame because he will always be a club legend for what he achieved with us.Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 21, 2022 11:08 pmI thought it was absolutely odd to get the last sacked manager commentating on a game about the club he was sacked by. Whoever thought that was a good idea in sky needs to give their heads a wobble. Also mark Chapman into the mix with Neville , what a strange concoction.
I would have rather had listened to Eni Eluko
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I didn't hear Dyche being bitter and I'm not sure Pace says the above in his twitter interview. The United view that I've heard is that we were disappointing and it was a fairly easy game.
I thought we matched them in many ways but when you have players of the quality of Bruno, Erickson and Rashford it's difficult to out football them...!
So, on the one hand we looked competitive playing good football on the other hand the result was kind of predictable.
I thought we matched them in many ways but when you have players of the quality of Bruno, Erickson and Rashford it's difficult to out football them...!
So, on the one hand we looked competitive playing good football on the other hand the result was kind of predictable.
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I thought that was a good reality check. We stuck to our style of play & had moments, didn't get over run either, took some quality goals to sink us.
If it takes United at OT to make us look ordinary that's a good sign for a Championship campaign.
If it takes United at OT to make us look ordinary that's a good sign for a Championship campaign.
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That United team wasn't far off their first 11 too and we were missing key players, we were probably at half strength if you consider what VK has picked as his first 11 this season. A great experience, I liked how brave we were with the ball, stuck to our identity. Good game in the end, shame we didn't nick one with 10 to go, could have got real interesting.
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Gave it a good shot and stayed true to our (new) identity.
Would have liked to have seen a longer cameo of Twine, Bastien, Churlinov and Egan-Riley to enable the other players to have some respite, but I guess the manager knows best
Would have liked to have seen a longer cameo of Twine, Bastien, Churlinov and Egan-Riley to enable the other players to have some respite, but I guess the manager knows best
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Not so sure it was bitterness, more that he was protecting his own interests. He is still in the shop window for his next role so he is not going to be effusive in his praise of the change we are seeing. Hence when he mentioned the complete rebuild he qualified that with ‘easier to do in the championship’ and ‘using the big money’ from the sales of players he brought in.
Understandable really but it does call into question why the TV companies regularly use the recently departed manager like this. Not the first time they have done this, and I think it does stunt the discussions
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Twine came on as a striker. Plus we have Dervisoglu.
Here’s what VK said about Twine last night:
"He is a player who can do both, he can be in the pockets and the half spaces but he can also play centrally and drop in. He's got good feeling for timing of runs in behind so I think naturally his instinct is to be a number nine but I think because of how well he takes care of the ball, and his final ball is quite good, so he can play in a number of positions."
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Personally I think we're better waiting until next summer to really upgrade the team (after we've hopefully been promoted), I don't see the real benefit of spending £10m on a striker in January who is less likely to make the step up to the PL.
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It didn't happen in front of goal, nevertheless we had a real go at them, and they did us proud. We were playing a decent Man Utd team with some world-class players, not Manfield Town.
It sounds like some of you will never be happy. Makes me wonder whether this is down to some much deeper unhappiness that has nothing to do with football or our club, because some of the comments on here don't reflect what I saw last night at Old Trafford. UTC!
It sounds like some of you will never be happy. Makes me wonder whether this is down to some much deeper unhappiness that has nothing to do with football or our club, because some of the comments on here don't reflect what I saw last night at Old Trafford. UTC!
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Sums it up really
According to BBC stats we had 11 efforts on goal to their 10, just the quality of those shots really
Hopefully Benny is ok
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I looked at this game as a measure of how we are, not expecting anything but defeat and hoping we wouldn't be physically overrun.
The first question is therefore 'how good was this Man Utd team? It's hard to tell but I didn't think they were that good. They had some top players of course, and the worst three on the pitch - Dubravka, Malacia and the awful Garnacho (thank goodness he was bad as Roberts gave him loads of space). I don't think United got out of second gear quite frankly. Their first goal was excellent but a lesson for Beyer who should have covered for the cross and Eriksen's movement. The second was annoying because we'd worked hard to get the ball back and then lost it. Beyer again was at fault as surely he should have eased Rashford wide - maybe easier said then done.
On the whole though I was pleased that we played more or less our usual game except that the three forwards - Barnes, Brownhill and Gudmundsson - came back deeper to defend, which I thought was a good thing. Our play was reasonably effective considering the opposition. Most of our players seemed a bit on edge in the first half and it was clear most of them could not pass a long ball accurately when under pressure. Cullen looked at home but Cork showed his limitations at this level - he's just simply too slow. Both Beyer and THB did OK and will learn from their short comings. Roberts persistently annoyed me. He's a wind up merchant, unnecessarily getting involved with Fernandes leading to the latter being booked. He's also not good enough for the first team, just an OK back up. Of our forwards only Benson and JBG (on the right) looked the part. The rest couldn't hit the proverbial barn door on this showing.
Overall I'm pleased with our showing and the lesson's that will be learnt and look forward to how we perform against Bournemouth.
The first question is therefore 'how good was this Man Utd team? It's hard to tell but I didn't think they were that good. They had some top players of course, and the worst three on the pitch - Dubravka, Malacia and the awful Garnacho (thank goodness he was bad as Roberts gave him loads of space). I don't think United got out of second gear quite frankly. Their first goal was excellent but a lesson for Beyer who should have covered for the cross and Eriksen's movement. The second was annoying because we'd worked hard to get the ball back and then lost it. Beyer again was at fault as surely he should have eased Rashford wide - maybe easier said then done.
On the whole though I was pleased that we played more or less our usual game except that the three forwards - Barnes, Brownhill and Gudmundsson - came back deeper to defend, which I thought was a good thing. Our play was reasonably effective considering the opposition. Most of our players seemed a bit on edge in the first half and it was clear most of them could not pass a long ball accurately when under pressure. Cullen looked at home but Cork showed his limitations at this level - he's just simply too slow. Both Beyer and THB did OK and will learn from their short comings. Roberts persistently annoyed me. He's a wind up merchant, unnecessarily getting involved with Fernandes leading to the latter being booked. He's also not good enough for the first team, just an OK back up. Of our forwards only Benson and JBG (on the right) looked the part. The rest couldn't hit the proverbial barn door on this showing.
Overall I'm pleased with our showing and the lesson's that will be learnt and look forward to how we perform against Bournemouth.
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VK said Benson went off with cramp I believe so all good.clitheroeclaret3 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:55 amSums it up really
According to BBC stats we had 11 efforts on goal to their 10, just the quality of those shots really
Hopefully Benny is ok
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The United view would be massively different had we scored 2, arguably 3 - Churlinov, Barnes x2. Score a couple of those chances or get a bit of luck with the others and their memories of the game would’ve been very different. Dubravka celebrated the second like it was a goal in the final - the players, if not the fans, knew they were in a game. That said, I think had we scored, United would’ve gone through the gears again.ClaretPete001 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:29 amI didn't hear Dyche being bitter and I'm not sure Pace says the above in his twitter interview. The United view that I've heard is that we were disappointing and it was a fairly easy game.
I thought we matched them in many ways but when you have players of the quality of Bruno, Erickson and Rashford it's difficult to out football them...!
So, on the one hand we looked competitive playing good football on the other hand the result was kind of predictable.
I was also massively proud of the performance. It far outweighed my expectations and gave me hope we could play this system successfully if promoted. 2-0 away is never a bad result against United and they put all their available talent on display.
Positives from the night:
- reminded me how lucky we are to have BPF
- created enough chances to win the game
- competed well without really being at full strength
- game time for Darko and Twine
- no major injuries
Negatives:
- main one for me is that I think occasionally we need to vary our play against the best teams. We won a couple of FK’s in good positions as passed it backwards. Really feel against top opposition (and when behind) we need to have routines in our locker that work the defences better.
- did feel we should’ve done better for Rashfords, but good learning curve for our defenders.
- THB wasteful with passing.
Otherwise excellent.
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NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:54 pmThe United view would be massively different had we scored 2, arguably 3 - Churlinov, Barnes x2. Score a couple of those chances or get a bit of luck with the others and their memories of the game would’ve been very different. Dubravka celebrated the second like it was a goal in the final - the players, if not the fans, knew they were in a game. That said, I think had we scored, United would’ve gone through the gears again.
I was also massively proud of the performance. It far outweighed my expectations and gave me hope we could play this system successfully if promoted. 2-0 away is never a bad result against United and they put all their available talent on display.
Positives from the night:
- reminded me how lucky we are to have BPF
- created enough chances to win the game
- competed well without really being at full strength
- game time for Darko and Twine
- no major injuries
Negatives:
- main one for me is that I think occasionally we need to vary our play against the best teams. We won a couple of FK’s in good positions as passed it backwards. Really feel against top opposition (and when behind) we need to have routines in our locker that work the defences better.
- did feel we should’ve done better for Rashfords, but good learning curve for our defenders.
- THB wasteful with passing.
Otherwise excellent.
It's hard to say, United, as a group, have not played in 6 weeks and it was hard to gauge how they would have played if they had not killed the game off after an hour.
It finished with a flurry of subs and felt a bit like a training game at the end so I'm not sure how much your can read into it other than the game panned out how as you might have expected it.
The positives: (1) competed well for 90 minutes (2) I thought the midfield looked comfortable against some of the best players in the world (3) BPF looked comfortable (4) Benson was outstanding again
Negatives: United killed the game off too early and looked too comfortable to really judge how good/bad we were. Eric Ten Hag felt comfortable enough to make 5 changes.
I was disappointed but I tend to think if Jay Rod and Zaroury/ Tella had played it would have been a very different game.
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You forgot the only kidding emoji surely! No one can be so bad that you'd rather listen to her!
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Was in the south stand near the tunnel with a utd mate last night . A lot of the fans around me were complimentary to the way we played and were saying we could of easily "nicked it " in the end . Somebody else mentioned on here about our free kicks : with a dodgy keeper plus no Maguire or Varone , surely we should of been putting crosses in instead of playing it short .