VK saying that the No 9 role is his more natural position. Many on here are saying that a striker should be our number one target in January, maybe VK has other ideas. My source is Lancs Live is anyone wants to link it

Twine strikes me as being very lightweight compared to what we've been used to as a centre forward. That said pretty much everything about this year's side is a long way from what we've been used to, so if VK likes the idea then I'm in favour.

Lancashire Live ? Not sure on their credentials, that said VK knows best if it is true.

I find that a really strange move for Twine. Not sure he has many attributes that would make him a good striker.

I think he just said he can play more than one position.

The quote from VK isn’t saying he’s only a number 9

‘He is a player who can do both, he can be in the pockets and the half spaces but he can also play centrally and drop in,"

"He's got good feeling for timing of runs in behind so I think naturally his instinct is to be a number nine, but I think because of how well he takes care of the ball, and his final ball is quite good, so he can play in a number of positions."

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:09 am

The quote from VK isn’t saying he’s only a number 9

‘He is a player who can do both, he can be in the pockets and the half spaces but he can also play centrally and drop in,"

"He's got good feeling for timing of runs in behind so I think naturally his instinct is to be a number nine, but I think because of how well he takes care of the ball, and his final ball is quite good, so he can play in a number of positions."

I didn't say that VK said he was only a No9, he did say that it is his natural position as in your quote. I said that MAYBE VK has this in mind as an alternative to bringing in another striker

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:55 am

Twine strikes me as being very lightweight compared to what we've been used to as a centre forward. That said pretty much everything about this year's side is a long way from what we've been used to, so if VK likes the idea then I'm in favour.

Dennis Law was also a lightweight but he knew where the net was.

If he starts how does that leave JR, who was saying in the press how much he was looking forward to play v Man Utd. The when Barnes came off Twine came on and the camera panned to JR and he looked very subdued

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:09 am

The quote from VK isn’t saying he’s only a number 9

‘He is a player who can do both, he can be in the pockets and the half spaces but he can also play centrally and drop in,"

"He's got good feeling for timing of runs in behind so I think naturally his instinct is to be a number nine, but I think because of how well he takes care of the ball, and his final ball is quite good, so he can play in a number of positions."

In other words, where scoring goals is concerned, he is a magnificent option for us!

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:09 am

The quote from VK isn’t saying he’s only a number 9

‘He is a player who can do both, he can be in the pockets and the half spaces but he can also play centrally and drop in,"

"He's got good feeling for timing of runs in behind so I think naturally his instinct is to be a number nine, but I think because of how well he takes care of the ball, and his final ball is quite good, so he can play in a number of positions."

Probably most natural role in our team from the sound of that would be the Tella role, something of a cross between a striker and a winger.

Could also see him used in Brownhill's position late in a game if we're chasing a result too.

Mattster wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:37 am

Probably most natural role in our team from the sound of that would be the Tella role, something of a cross between a striker and a winger.

Could also see him used in Brownhill's position late in a game if we're chasing a result too.

Yeah agree. With Cork set to miss 2 games soon, I’d imagine Brownhill will drop back alongside Cullen. Might present the opportunity to play him in the Brownhill role.

Getting him on the pitch would be a start

Second half of this season is critical for Twine in staying fit and getting in plenty of game time and scoring some goals and contributing with some valuable assists.
Should we be promoted he will find it a huge leap from League One to the PL.

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 11:43 am

Second half of this season is critical for Twine in staying fit and getting in plenty of game time and scoring some goals and contributing with some valuable assists.
Should we be promoted he will find it a huge leap from League One to the PL.

Vardy

Is it just me, but when I read any 'Lancashire Live' article about Burnley, they always somehow manage to convey a negative aspect?

I think the Lancs Live coverage is good. For some reason it’s been derided over the years but there is only The Athletic which is a subscription device that tops it these days.

Must be just me then.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:11 pm

I think the Lancs Live coverage is good. For some reason it’s been derided over the years but there is only The Athletic which is a subscription device that tops it these days.

I rate Lancs Live too and not just from a BFC perspective but broader local news - comfortably better than its competition like Lancashire Telegraph.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:57 am

I find that a really strange move for Twine. Not sure he has many attributes that would make him a good striker.

He looks very quick to me, technically good and scores goals
So the 3 attributes of getting there first controlling the ball and finishing are all there.
A more traditional centre forward often struggles to get involved in the game with VK’s way of playing

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:57 am

I find that a really strange move for Twine. Not sure he has many attributes that would make him a good striker.

I'd say he has all the attributes to be a good striker in this set up. Perhaps our more traditional strikers don't.

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:22 pm

He looks very quick to me, technically good and scores goals
So the 3 attributes of getting there first controlling the ball and finishing are all there.
A more traditional centre forward often struggles to get involved in the game with VK’s way of playing

He’s not particularly quick or strong. I don’t think he would be great at holding up the ball or stretching the defence.

He’s excellent on the ball and has good vision. He’s better suited to a ten. I’m not sure making a lad that has played a handful of minutes at this level change position is a good idea.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:48 pm

He’s not particularly quick or strong. I don’t think he would be great at holding up the ball or stretching the defence.

He’s excellent on the ball and has good vision. He’s better suited to a ten. I’m not sure making a lad that has played a handful of minutes at this level change position is a good idea.

I don’t think anybody has actually suggested that.

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:54 pm

I don’t think anybody has actually suggested that.

Fair point.

Nobodys seen twine in this side to judge properly yet
Needs a run

His highlights from MK last season lead me to believe Twine would be a decent false 9 type of forward - similarly to how Robbie Blake played up front on his own for a short time under Steve Cotterill. His role wasn’t to stretch defences or hold up the ball, but to drop deep into midfield and use his technique to create space and openings for advancing midfielders and wide men. Robbie was also very good at getting himself on to the score sheet as well.

Oh how a Robbie Blake in his prime would love to play in this VK side.

I remember Blake in that role. He came back from pre season looking very trim as well, which was nice to see.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 12:48 pm

He’s not particularly quick or strong. I don’t think he would be great at holding up the ball or stretching the defence.

He’s excellent on the ball and has good vision. He’s better suited to a ten. I’m not sure making a lad that has played a handful of minutes at this level change position is a good idea.

Besides the pace, I mostly agree with you, but I’m more making the point that although we’ve had some notable success with a 9 this season I don’t think in the long term we intend to play one, so I’m more thinking that we’d play 2 x No 10’s interchanging
I think Vydra was really a No 10 but coming on in our set up usually losing and with immobile No 9’s around him his movement disrupted the oppositions defence.
In VK’s time at Man City they didn’t really play a 9 after Aguero was only fit to come off the bench.
The irony of trying to be a City type team is obviously their acquisition of Haaland, but I can’t see us using a proper No9 going forward

BleedingClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 1:54 pm

Besides the pace, I mostly agree with you, but I’m more making the point that although we’ve had some notable success with a 9 this season I don’t think in the long term we intend to play one, so I’m more thinking that we’d play 2 x No 10’s interchanging
I think Vydra was really a No 10 but coming on in our set up usually losing and with immobile No 9’s around him his movement disrupted the oppositions defence.
In VK’s time at Man City they didn’t really play a 9 after Aguero was only fit to come off the bench.
The irony of trying to be a City type team is obviously their acquisition of Haaland, but I can’t see us using a proper No9 going forward

I can't see us signing Haaland, either.

winsomeyen wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:20 am

Dennis Law was also a lightweight but he knew where the net was.

And could leap like a salmon. What a player.

They probably got him for old rope

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 9:55 am

Twine strikes me as being very lightweight compared to what we've been used to as a centre forward. That said pretty much everything about this year's side is a long way from what we've been used to, so if VK likes the idea then I'm in favour.

Much of the current squad might look somewhat "lightweight" by Premiership standards but this is part of the intrigue of following a smaller club who find themselves 'punching above their weight '. Dyche relied on a quality goalkeeper and back four (cheaper than top class forward players) to keep a clean sheet and a midfield/attack capable of nicking a goal. He's the only manager to have found a way of keeping us consistently in the top division in the last five decades.
If Kompany likewise achieves Premiership status it will be interesting to see how he strives to do the same, buying in champagne on a beer budget.

Billyblah wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:30 pm

Much of the current squad might look somewhat "lightweight" by Premiership standards but this is part of the intrigue of following a smaller club who find themselves 'punching above their weight '. Dyche relied on a quality goalkeeper and back four (cheaper than top class forward players) to keep a clean sheet and a midfield/attack capable of nicking a goal. He's the only manager to have found a way of keeping us consistently in the top division in the last five decades.
If Kompany likewise achieves Premiership status it will be interesting to see how he strives to do the same, buying in champagne on a beer budget.

I don't think we should underestimate VK's coaching ability.
He's shaped the current squad up to where it is in so little time, perhaps the lure of PL football with VK may bring a few more gems....
...assuming, of course, that we get promoted.

Not seen enough of Twine tbh, although was it 32 goals that he contributed towards, admittedly in league 1 last year? Only thing I will say is that because of the way we now play, I can’t see why Twine couldn’t play up top?! Clearly not as an old fashioned target man but he clearly knows where the goal is so to speak.

It's a concept that had never entered my head of Twine being a central striker. I think like most people I thought of him as a typical no 10 scoring a few goals and creating also. But then again VK knows his players a lot more than the experts on here. I saw the person whose position he would threaten the most to be Josh Brownhill. However I am pretty sure he would be able to play anywhere across the front 3 or just behind. At the beginning of the season he was the marquee signing I suppose and the 1 player I expected to have a real attacking impact on the team more than Benson, Zaroury or Tella etc. I am very hopeful he stays fit and manages to have regular game time even though we have done pretty well without him.

Billyblah wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 25, 2022 5:30 pm

Much of the current squad might look somewhat "lightweight" by Premiership standards but this is part of the intrigue of following a smaller club who find themselves 'punching above their weight '. Dyche relied on a quality goalkeeper and back four (cheaper than top class forward players) to keep a clean sheet and a midfield/attack capable of nicking a goal. He's the only manager to have found a way of keeping us consistently in the top division in the last five decades.
If Kompany likewise achieves Premiership status it will be interesting to see how he strives to do the same, buying in champagne on a beer budget.

I'm not sure VK's ambition is to get us promoted to the Scottish top flight.

winsomeyen wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 24, 2022 10:20 am

Dennis Law was also a lightweight but he knew where the net was.

So were numerous other centre forwards,look at Lineaker back in the day,Kevin Phillips etc!