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Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:55 pm
by Carwin261
Apart from Sheffield Utd ,the best of the rest are only averaging 1 1/2 points a game giving an end of season total of 69,6 wins & a draw would do it.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:58 pm
by tiger76
Carwin261 wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:55 pm
Apart from Sheffield Utd ,the best of the rest are only averaging 1 1/2 points a game giving an end of season total of 69,6 wins & a draw would do it.
One or two will likely come out of the pack and maybe push up around the 80 point mark, however the top 2 are seemingly in a league of their own and the only question is who will lift the title because both are heading up.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:58 pm
by 4midable
Watching sheffield at min
Look bang average

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:01 pm
by RVclaret
4midable wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:58 pm
Watching sheffield at min
Look bang average
Sheff play like this. They give up a lot of the ball and it feels like they are under pressure a lot. But they grind out the win. Reminds me of us under Dyche in the title winning season.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:05 pm
by 4midable
Blackpool deserve a draw

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:10 pm
by Devils_Advocate
You never know one of those teams currently looking like an also ran might just go undefeated for the whole second half of the season

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:13 pm
by 4midable
Sunderland for playoffs

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:13 pm
by Spijed
tiger76 wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:58 pm
One or two will likely come out of the pack and maybe push up around the 80 point mark, however the top 2 are seemingly in a league of their own and the only question is who will lift the title because both are heading up.
Both teams with an 11 pt gap and vastly superior GD.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:23 pm
by RVclaret
Spijed wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:13 pm
Both teams with an 11 pt gap and vastly superior GD.
Could be 14 for us by this time tomorrow

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:25 pm
by 4midable
To lose 5 games without others losing is near enough impossible

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:25 pm
by ClaretLoup
Michael Duff sent off at Barnsley tonight.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:25 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Promoted in March almost a certain.

20-25 more points should do it

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:26 pm
by Pickles
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:25 pm
Promoted in March almost a certain.

20-25 more points should do it
Imagine, just imagine if it's at...

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:26 pm
by ClaretLoup
ClaretLoup wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:25 pm
Michael Duff sent off at Barnsley tonight.
Sorry wrong thread :(

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:27 pm
by jrgbfc
West Brom the team to watch now I think. If Corberan was there from the start of the season they'd be up alongside us and the Blades.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:29 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
Pickles wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:26 pm
Imagine, just imagine if it's at...
Could very well be.

Not sure it matters either way tbh we will get around points and only Sheffield will get near that.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:29 pm
by Pickles
jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:27 pm
West Brom the team to watch now I think. If Corberan was there from the start of the season they'd be up alongside us and the Blades.
I think this too.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:32 pm
by Bin Ont Turf
Only a massive amount of injuries are going to stop us from being automatically promoted.

That or the Sun exploding.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:34 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:27 pm
West Brom the team to watch now I think. If Corberan was there from the start of the season they'd be up alongside us and the Blades.
If West Brom manage to achieve 2 points per game for the rest of the season (promotion form) the max points they would get would be 79 points.

They are too late to enter the automatic places.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:35 pm
by agreenwood
The teams in 3rd and below are pretty much going to have to average more than two points a game to top the 80 point mark. They’ll be needing about 14 wins from the last 21 games.

You’d basically be looking at something akin to what we did in those 23 games of 2015/16. It’s not something that happens often.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:38 pm
by tiger76
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:34 pm
If West Brom manage to achieve 2 points per game for the rest of the season (promotion form) the max points they would get would be 79 points.

They are too late to enter the automatic places.
West Brom could a good bet to emerge through the lay=off's, however I agree they'd have to embark on a crazy run to even threaten the top 2.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:40 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
tiger76 wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:38 pm
West Brom could a good bet to emerge through the lay=off's, however I agree they'd have to embark on a crazy run to even threaten the top 2.
Yes I think they are a good shout for play offs as are Sunderland.

But if we win tomorrow we should start planning for the prem.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:50 pm
by Quicknick
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:40 pm
Yes I think they are a good shout for play offs as are Sunderland.

But if we win tomorrow we should start planning for the prem.
If we win at Stoke, we need to keep on winning.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:53 pm
by Bigvince
4midable wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:58 pm
Watching sheffield at min
Look bang average
The parallels between Sheffield United and a S Dyche side can’t be underestimated, they more often than not find a way to win, even whilst not playing at their best!

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:58 pm
by Spijed
This was the table in 15/16 after 25 matches.

Didn't realise Boro had more points than we currently have.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:09 pm
by summitclaret
There's a lot of chicken counting going on. It's looking brilliant atm. However, I am absolutely certain that VK and CB will not be counting any. Thank goodness.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:13 pm
by Newcastleclaret93
summitclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:09 pm
There's a lot of chicken counting going on. It's looking brilliant atm. However, I am absolutely certain that VK and CB will not be counting any. Thank goodness.
Not chicken counting just simple math.

We are currently on target to achieve around 96 points based on points per game.

The third best team in the league would have to win 19 of there remaining 21 games to reach that.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:22 pm
by TsarBomba
I read earlier that the average to get automatic is 86+. So 36 from 22 will see us there or thereabouts.

That requires a huge drop off from us to ‘only’ get to 86.

And those chasing will need to get 47+ in their 21 games.

I’m far from counting our chickens but it’s not looking likely.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:32 pm
by Clarets4me
jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:27 pm
West Brom the team to watch now I think. If Corberan was there from the start of the season they'd be up alongside us and the Blades.
I seem to remember posting after the 1-1 draw at the Hawthorns, that at the end of the season, that will be regarded as a good point.
Certainly, any other Championship team would take an away point at West Brom if they were offered it ...

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:39 pm
by Chobulous
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:13 pm
Not chicken counting just simple mathS
Hope you don’t mind but I took the liberty of correcting that for you

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:48 pm
by claptrappers_union
West Brom are the best team we played this season. Despite them scoring a last gasp equaliser, I thought they deserved a win. I can’t say that about any other clubs we’ve dropped points against… maybe Sheff Utd.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:51 pm
by IanMcL
Erik Pieters played Centre back for WBA and their commentators loved him.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:58 pm
by basil6345789
Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:13 pm
Not chicken counting just simple math.

We are currently on target to achieve around 96 points based on points per game.

The third best team in the league would have to win 19 of there remaining 21 games to reach that.
maths

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:19 am
by ClaretinJapan
jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:27 pm
West Brom the team to watch now I think. If Corberan was there from the start of the season they'd be up alongside us and the Blades.
Agreed, think Watford might put a run together too.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:45 am
by Jamesy
jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:27 pm
West Brom the team to watch now I think. If Corberan was there from the start of the season they'd be up alongside us and the Blades.
Yes West Brom have certainly got momentum at present. Middlesbrough will also be pushing hard. These two could easily achieve 80 points so would say 85 required. Another 10 wins from 22 games and a few draws.
Looking at Kompany though, even if we achieve promotion with a few to spare he won’t want to ease off the gas.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:20 am
by Vegas Claret
this guy sums it up perfectly but I'm also in the not counting chickens corner - it's a good job Kompany has been brought up trying to win every game, score as many goals as you can and break as many records as possible !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uharkAxH440

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 6:50 am
by claretandy
It could be a record low points tally needed to get into the play-offs, it will keep it interesting for those as low as 17th only being a couple of wins away.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:20 am
by claretandy
Spijed wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:58 pm
This was the table in 15/16 after 25 matches.

Didn't realise Boro had more points than we currently have.
So Boro only got another 37 points from 22 games
We got another 51 points from 21 games.

It would take something like this to happen again.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:34 am
by Lancasterclaret
I think its worth remembering that we are currently on an incredible run

Obviously we'd all like it to continue as long as possible, but we do need to be realistic

Couple of big tests coming up, especially as we will have to make changes due to the schedule

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:37 am
by RVclaret
Jamesy wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:45 am
Looking at Kompany though, even if we achieve promotion with a few to spare he won’t want to ease off the gas.
Agree. I think he was quoted recently, when asked about 8 wins in the last 9.

“It's still not good enough, though. There's one game missing in there.”

One game at a time for me.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:22 am
by agreenwood
Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:34 am
I think its worth remembering that we are currently on an incredible run

Obviously we'd all like it to continue as long as possible, but we do need to be realistic

Couple of big tests coming up, especially as we will have to make changes due to the schedule
Agree with this. It’s very English of me, but some of the over-confidence on here makes me feel really uneasy.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:35 am
by Swizzlestick
Well it’s only really Newcastleclaret putting the bunting up, a person utterly unconcerned with the concept of nuance.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:48 am
by timshorts
It's our form that counts. The next 10 games will be fairly crucial looking at the fixtures. They look tougher than March and late Feb.
Plus, until the transfer window has closed, we really can't tell which of our opponents have the ability to improve. If West brom and Watford, say, bring in a couple of key signings, they could quite possibly do what we have done in the first half of the season.
We might also lose a player or two - either in the transfer window, or to injury after it.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:06 am
by Conroy92
Every chance we could be 13 or 14 points clear of third tonight!

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:16 am
by Ampth7
There are still a lot of games still to go yet so let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Is promotion ours to lose? Yes. Are we there yet? No. Have teams in similar positions to ours in previous seasons fallen by the wayside? Yes.
There will be no tempting of fate from me; instead I’m taking the one game at a time approach starting tonight at Stoke! UTC

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:25 am
by Spijed
timshorts wrote:
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:48 am
It's our form that counts. The next 10 games will be fairly crucial looking at the fixtures. They look tougher than March and late Feb.
Plus, until the transfer window has closed, we really can't tell which of our opponents have the ability to improve. If West brom and Watford, say, bring in a couple of key signings, they could quite possibly do what we have done in the first half of the season.
We might also lose a player or two - either in the transfer window, or to injury after it.
The gap teams will have to make up (if you discount inconsistent sides such as Rovers) is greater than we had to make up in 2016.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:13 pm
by Greenmile
My chickens have been counted. We will finish top with more than 100 points and close to 100 goals.

I’m pretty confident that my complacency will not rub off on VK and the team - mostly because they have no idea who I am.

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:35 pm
by mdd2
Watch out for WBA Sunderland and Boro as well as Watford IMO on present form
Far too early to write any off it the top 12 and to assume we won’t bomb for a spell

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:36 pm
by mdd2
A lot depends on our squad size and players who are fit on Feb 1st

Re: Promoted with 70 points

Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:06 pm
by keith1879
Devils_Advocate wrote:
Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:10 pm
You never know one of those teams currently looking like an also ran might just go undefeated for the whole second half of the season
That reminds me of something