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Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:21 pm
by Milltown1882
Both remind me of Mahrez when he was at Leicester and look where he is now. Realistically if we do go up and teams start floating about next season what’s the base price we sell at?
Has to be £30mil+ surely.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:25 pm
by Accrington claret
Good idea lets sell all of our other decent players as well
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:25 pm
by Walkerpool
Don't want to think about us ever selling them lol I honestly don't know how we got them so cheap
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:30 pm
by karatekid
They were good when we bought them but VK has made them great.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:43 pm
by Claret Till I Die
Our model now is to buy and sell on at a profit. I wouldn't be surprised to see one leave in the summer if a silly offer came in.
Not that I'd want it though
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:44 pm
by bobinho
Accrington claret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:25 pm
Good idea lets sell all of our other decent players as well
I think you may be missing the fact that is our new model.
We buy prospects, we help develop them, then we sell for a considerable profit. That’s us I’m afraid. Enjoy them while we can.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:56 pm
by ClaretInLeeds
Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:43 pm
Our model now is to buy and sell on at a profit. I wouldn't be surprised to see one leave in the summer if a silly offer came in.
Not that I'd want it though
Stop talking sense.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:56 pm
by taio
Let's see if they can cut it in the PL first. I think one can; not sure about the other. Valuations of £30m at this point are pie in the sky.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:00 pm
by NewClaret
Let’s just enjoy them and not worry about what we might eventually sell them for.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:01 pm
by arise_sir_charge
taio wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:56 pm
Let's see if they can cut it in the PL first. I think one can; not sure about the other. Valuations of £30m at this point are pie in the sky.
Why, plenty of players never kicked a ball in Prem gone for mega money.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:02 pm
by taio
arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:01 pm
Why, plenty of players never kicked a ball in Prem gone for mega money.
How many Championship players have gone for over £30m.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:04 pm
by HiThere
Our model until the debt is paid off. If you have money and don't have to sell, then you don't have to sell.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:04 pm
by RVclaret
taio wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:02 pm
How many Championship players have gone for over £30m.
Not that I agree with the 30m valuations but Gibbs-White went for 30m+ last summer.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:05 pm
by Rileybobs
taio wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:56 pm
Let's see if they can cut it in the PL first. I think one can; not sure about the other. Valuations of £30m at this point are pie in the sky.
Exactly, we don’t know how either will get on. I presume you are less certain about Benson, and I’d agree. But his performance today and at Old Trafford give me confidence that he can step up. I think he’s made a lot of progress already this season too so hopefully will continue on that path.
In terms of selling on, if they are good enough to step up then they will be worth a lot more after a season in the PL so I wouldn’t expect either to be sold this summer.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:05 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Think it’s quite clear they can make it in the prem. Man Utd fans were praising benson after he looked as good as anyone on the pitch against them and today both were class against lower level prem side.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:07 pm
by taio
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:04 pm
Not that I agree with the 30m valuations but Gibbs-White went for 30m+ last summer.
One? And I recall there were multiple layers of add-ons - wasn't £30m base fee.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:07 pm
by gandhisflipflop
Walkerpool wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:25 pm
Don't want to think about us ever selling them lol I honestly don't know how we got them so cheap
Because we have a scouting team that don’t believe the myth that these types of player are unaffordable and cost millions upon millions. Long overdue and I am loving it
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:07 pm
by taio
Rileybobs wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:05 pm
Exactly, we don’t know how either will get on. I presume you are less certain about Benson, and I’d agree. But his performance today and at Old Trafford give me confidence that he can step up. I think he’s made a lot of progress already this season too so hopefully will continue on that path.
In terms of selling on, if they are good enough to step up then they will be worth a lot more after a season in the PL so I wouldn’t expect either to be sold this summer.
Summed up perfectly
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:09 pm
by HiThere
gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:07 pm
Because we have a scouting team that don’t believe the myth that these types of player are unaffordable and cost millions upon millions. Long overdue and I am loving it
Pace seems to be very data-driven and so does Kompany. Absolutely no reason why we can't keep bringing in players this good.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:09 pm
by ksrclaret
I’m confident both will step up to the PL very well. They’ve both got excellent technique, and have the ability to change their pace over 5/10 yards to get away from defenders. They are both huge, huge goal threats as well. They lack physicality but there are so many PL wingers who are the same - as long as you’ve got 3 athletic midfield players it’s not a problem.
Not arsed about the valuations of either yet because we won’t be selling either until at least summer 2024.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:10 pm
by gandhisflipflop
HiThere wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:09 pm
Pace seems to be very data-driven and so does Kompany. Absolutely no reason why we can't keep bringing in players this good.
Or even better if we go up.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:11 pm
by Greenmile
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:04 pm
Not that I agree with the 30m valuations but Gibbs-White went for 30m+ last summer.
From Premier League side Wolves, wasn’t it? He was only on loan in the Championship I think.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:12 pm
by jedi_master
Both of these will each net us more than we got for Keane, Collins or Wood.
In my opinion.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:12 pm
by Vegas Claret
just think about the level of talent VK will be able to attract if (when) we go up.......
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:13 pm
by RVclaret
Greenmile wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:11 pm
From Premier League side Wolves, wasn’t it? He was only on loan in the Championship I think.
Yes, but he’d only had that one good season in the Champ
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:13 pm
by Quickenthetempo
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:04 pm
Not that I agree with the 30m valuations but Gibbs-White went for 30m+ last summer.
A deal between 2 Premier league clubs.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:14 pm
by taio
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:13 pm
Yes, but he’d only had that one good season in the Champ
But wasn't signed from the Championship.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:15 pm
by Greenmile
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:13 pm
Yes, but he’d only had that one good season in the Champ
Not a “Championship player” though.
I’m just being pedantic, really, I’m not that interested in your discussion with taio. Feel free to ignore me.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:16 pm
by RVclaret
taio wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:14 pm
But wasn't signed from the Championship.
Fair enough, thought we were talking about the summer coming though, when we will (highly) likely be in the PL.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:17 pm
by Firthy
Biggest worry has to be losing VK himself. I'm sure he's very happy working with Pace and what he's achieving at our club but money speaks at the end of the day and if he carries on like this and we gain promotion then I'm sure some of the richer clubs will be looking at him.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:17 pm
by DanH90
Think they are both PL quality and will be great for us next season.
The one who really will get us the big money is Zaroury. His ceiling is wherever he wants it to be, I can’t really see too many weaknesses to his game! Benson I am less convinced we will get big money for, only because he is already mid 20s. Let’s hope that’s the case and we get to keep him!
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:18 pm
by taio
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:16 pm
Fair enough, thought we were talking about the summer coming though, when we will (highly) likely be in the PL.
Hopefully and very likely. The only point I made was that neither Zaroury or Benson will be worth £30m or more.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:18 pm
by RVclaret
taio wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:18 pm
Hopefully and very likely. The only point I made was that neither Zaroury or Benson will be worth £30m or more.
Yes I agree
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:19 pm
by HiThere
Firthy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:17 pm
Biggest worry has to be losing VK himself. I'm sure he's very happy working with Pace and what he's achieving at our club but money speaks at the end of the day and if he carries on like this and we gain promotion then I'm sure some of the richer clubs will be looking at him.
Pace brought him here though. Something to keep in mind. If he can bring in someone like Kompany then he can do it again.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:31 pm
by KlyBfc
Benson looked a little unhappy / frustrated at full time. Hopefully not got a niggle It fid coincide with Anas’s song being sung again, perhaps he doesn’t feel the same love from the stands (his song doesn’t get the constant renditions) , even though we all know it’s there.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:35 pm
by Claret Till I Die
It's amazing what an afternoon without alcohol can do for a man..!!
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:37 pm
by Hedontplayforyou
Zaroury is going to bring in some serious cash.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:43 pm
by Lord Beamish
Claret Till I Die wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:43 pm
Our model now is to buy and sell on at a profit. I wouldn't be surprised to see one leave in the summer if a silly offer came in.
Not that I'd want it though
With a good Scouting System in place, we should not fear a Revolving Door policy at the Turf.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:49 pm
by HiThere
Hedontplayforyou wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:37 pm
Zaroury is going to bring in some serious cash.
McNeil moved for £20 million. You'd have to expect AT LEAST that for these two if they have a decent season with us the Prem next season.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:49 pm
by BurnleyFC
taio wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:56 pm
Let's see if they can cut it in the PL first. I think one can; not sure about the other. Valuations of £30m at this point are pie in the sky.
I reckon both would be absolutely fine in the Premier League. They’d be more protected by the referees for starters.
Plenty of players with far less talent than these two are already plying their trade in the top tier.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:34 pm
by Pickles
Sublime, supreme, special players.
Zaroury's second is genuinely one of the best goals I've seen a Burnley player score. Double megs?!
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:35 pm
by Milltown1882
HiThere wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:49 pm
McNeil moved for £20 million. You'd have to expect AT LEAST that for these two if they have a decent season with us the Prem next season.
Touching 40 for cornet and McNeil, 7 for benson and Zaroury. Crazy.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:38 pm
by Stayingup
They are definitely worth a lot even now. Also and perhaps worth more in time is Beyer. Wish we could sign him on a permanent basis.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:38 pm
by dougcollins
It kind of shows how small-time we think in that as soon as we get a decent player, we start talking about how much we can sell them for.
How about keeping hold of them?
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:41 pm
by Spijed
dougcollins wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:38 pm
It kind of shows how small-time we think in that as soon as we get a decent player, we start talking about how much we can sell them for.
How about keeping hold of them?
We have to pay off the debt as there is no guarantee of PL football for any sustained period.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:42 pm
by Pickles
Zaroury's potential is off the charts. I can't remember seeing a Burnley player since Keane who I thought could play at the top. Zaroury, he looks like he could be a Champions League player.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:24 pm
by tally
Pickles wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:42 pm
Zaroury's potential is off the charts. I can't remember seeing a Burnley player since Keane who I thought could play at the top. Zaroury, he looks like he could be a Champions League player.
With us I WOULD THINK
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:34 pm
by taio
Pickles wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:42 pm
Zaroury's potential is off the charts. I can't remember seeing a Burnley player since Keane who I thought could play at the top. Zaroury, he looks like he could be a Champions League player.
Totally agree - special. Particularly impressive is his ability on either side. Edge of the seat.
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:37 pm
by taio
Spijed wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:41 pm
We have to pay off the debt as there is no guarantee of PL football for any sustained period.
There is never any guarantee of a sustained period in the PL. Why are you even going down this road?
Re: Benson and Zaroury - how many millions?
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:50 pm
by Swizzlestick
Pickles wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:42 pm
Zaroury's potential is off the charts. I can't remember seeing a Burnley player since Keane who I thought could play at the top. Zaroury, he looks like he could be a Champions League player.
His first touch and general close control is out of this world.