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THB

Post by Hurstwood_Claret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:05 pm

What’s happened to Harwood Bellis?

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Re: THB

Post by Rileybobs » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:08 pm

Pulled up with an injury. Based on his reaction I suspect we’ll be without him for a couple of games at least.

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Re: THB

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:09 pm

Protective boot on at the end of the game

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Re: THB

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:16 pm

Worrying

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Re: THB

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:18 pm

Looked a bad one just on the basis of his reaction. Hard to tell what it was, but could be a broken/fractured foot or something like this (metatarsal etc). Pure speculation obviously, just what occurred when it happened and then seeing him in his boot at the end.

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Re: THB

Post by roperclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:19 pm

Looked like a foot injury. Probably a broken bone I reckon

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Re: THB

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:20 pm

If it was a broken or fractured foot he wouldn’t have been hanging around in a boot at the end of the game.

You can certainty see why we’re after another centre-half though. McNally finished the game quite well but had a few very nervous moments.

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Re: THB

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:21 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:20 pm
If it was a broken or fractured foot he wouldn’t have been hanging around in a boot at the end of the game.

You can certainty see why we’re after another centre-half though. McNally finished the game quite well but had a few very nervous moments.
To say he’s not played a game all season (Crawley at home aside) I was quite impressed! Bit nervy at times but to be expected?
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Re: THB

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:22 pm

Suppose if you can take anything from this it’s better that it happens during the window.

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Re: THB

Post by Bigvince » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:22 pm

I thought he turned an ankle, whilst controlling a pass and turning

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Re: THB

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:23 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:20 pm
If it was a broken or fractured foot he wouldn’t have been hanging around in a boot at the end of the game.

You can certainty see why we’re after another centre-half though. McNally finished the game quite well but had a few very nervous moments.
I’m no Doctor but I’ve broken my foot before and been in a boot - hence why it occurred to me :D . In that instance, I had no work done on it or anything, just an X-Ray then in the boot for about 6 weeks on crutches. Fine afterwards. Could just be precautionary until they do an X-Ray I suppose.

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Re: THB

Post by jedi_master » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:24 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:22 pm
I thought he turned an ankle, whilst controlling a pass and turning
Yes also possible - clearly foot/ankle. Could just be a sprain but even a bad one of those you’re looking at a month out.

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Re: THB

Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:25 pm

Good job we’re signing two centre backs.

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Re: THB

Post by Cabbage » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:26 pm

Bring back Kevin

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Re: THB

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:27 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:23 pm
I’m no Doctor but I’ve broken my foot before and been in a boot - hence why it occurred to me :D . In that instance, I had no work done on it or anything, just an X-Ray then in the boot for about 6 weeks on crutches. Fine afterwards. Could just be precautionary until they do an X-Ray I suppose.
Yeah I just meant if they suspected a break or fracture they’d surely have had him off sharpish for a scan and not let him walk around on it after the game.

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Re: THB

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:28 pm

At least he was able to walk off, albeit with a limp, so that's what I'm hanging my hat on.
Let's hope it's not too bad, but if he's out, we've replacements.

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Re: THB

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:29 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:21 pm
To say he’s not played a game all season (Crawley at home aside) I was quite impressed! Bit nervy at times but to be expected?
Going purely off Phil bird's commentary it sounded as if the lad grew into the game. A good experience for him.
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Re: THB

Post by HiThere » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:29 pm

Taylor back into CB and Maatsen at LB. 4 of our next 6 are at home and the transfer window is open. If an injury is to happen there are worse times.

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Re: THB

Post by Bigvince » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:30 pm

Thought McNally was nervous at first, but grew into the game and looked more comfortable the longer the game went on.
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Re: THB

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:35 pm

I thought the injury may have happened when he collided with Cullen a few minutes earlier .

Re McNally - he was nervous to begin with and the clearance that lead to the second Bournemouth goal probably could have been avoided with a little more composure , but after that he started to find his feet, read the game very well in most parts and won his share of headers in our box. Playing in a game like that will do him no end of good . Well done Luke, but having said that THB back asap please to carry on our fine form
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Re: THB

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:40 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:35 pm
I thought the injury may have happened when he collided with Cullen a few minutes earlier .

Re McNally - he was nervous to begin with and the clearance that lead to the second Bournemouth goal probably could have been avoided with a little more composure , but after that he started to find his feet, read the game very well in most parts and won his share of headers in our box. Playing in a game like that will do him no end of good . Well done Luke, but having said that THB back asap please to carry on our fine form
Agree with all of this.

McNally can take from the game that he has just played very well vs a Prem team. Should be a good boost for him.

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Re: THB

Post by claretlegend » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:54 pm

I was very impressed with McNally. Thought he slotted in very well. I must have missed his 'nervy' moments... But I was looking after my two 4 month olds, so attention was sometimes diverted!
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Re: THB

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:56 pm

McNally has barely played this season, plus it's never easy getting thrown on as a sub. Wouldn't have any issues with him playing in the league for us.
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Re: THB

Post by 1882Clarets1882 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:03 pm

Thought McNallys last ditch tackle when their player was going to be through to score was timed to perfection. Almost Tarkowski-esque!! If that's a taste of things to come I'll be a bit less worried than when I saw THB hobble off , cos he's been a rock thus far.

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Re: THB

Post by Bosscat » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:10 pm

THB will be missed ... but if McNally continues as he left off today we will be fine 👍
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Re: THB

Post by bfcmik » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:19 pm

When I broke my 'little toe' metatarsal I just thought it was a bruise for a week, then decided to go see my GP because it was still sore, ended up a fracture clinic and was only given an elastic sock for it. It was sore but not too painful unless I made certain movements, which I quickly learnt not to do! LOL

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Re: THB

Post by Ampth7 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:24 pm

I wouldn’t look too much into the fact that he left with a boot on his foot until he has had an X-ray.

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Re: THB

Post by dougcollins » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:35 pm

NcNally won’t have the passing range but no fears over his defending. He’s a good reader.
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Re: THB

Post by ElectroClaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:41 pm

Would have thought it would be Charlie coming in rather than McNally anyway.
But McNally seems ok.

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Re: THB

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:46 pm

For those who are confused, and you aren’t on your own, a break is a fracture. A fracture is a break. They are two words for the same thing. That is why as an outpatient there is only a fracture clinic to visit. No hospital has a break clinic and fracture clinic. There are different types of fracture but all of them are breaks, even a hairline.
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Re: THB

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:49 pm

This is apparently the most common of misconceptions. Approximately half of the population believe that a break and a fracture are two different things.

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Re: THB

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:50 pm

He mouthed it's fooked when he sat down.......i don't think we'll see him for a bit.

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Re: THB

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:51 pm

I'm looking forward to a 2 week fracture in Spain.
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Re: THB

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:57 pm

I think most people know that a break and fracture are the same thing, but colloquially people use the word break to describe a complete snapping and a fracture to describe a cracking of the bone. Nothing wrong with that.

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Re: THB

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:04 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:23 pm
I’m no Doctor but I’ve broken my foot before and been in a boot - hence why it occurred to me :D . In that instance, I had no work done on it or anything, just an X-Ray then in the boot for about 6 weeks on crutches. Fine afterwards. Could just be precautionary until they do an X-Ray I suppose.
I am a doctor, and I absolutely agree with you. No urgent scan required. Get it later that day. Boot is fine until then

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Re: THB

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:08 pm

I think you’ll be surprised by the number who think they are two different but similar things and each have their own contrasting definitions of what is and what isn’t.

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Re: THB

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:24 pm

Thought McNally was ok against a prem side . THB looked like he knew exactly what he’d done, though let’s hope it’s not a break . Taylor at CB will be fine for the championship.

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Re: THB

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:25 pm

Hoping the fact they let him hobble across the pitch to the away fans means it’s not a serious injury

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Re: THB

Post by Rowls » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:27 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:46 pm
For those who are confused, and you aren’t on your own, a break is a fracture. A fracture is a break. They are two words for the same thing. That is why as an outpatient there is only a fracture clinic to visit. No hospital has a break clinic and fracture clinic. There are different types of fracture but all of them are breaks, even a hairline.
I suffered a broken fracture once.
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Re: THB

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:28 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:25 pm
Hoping the fact they let him hobble across the pitch to the away fans means it’s not a serious injury
My thoughts too.

Surely our medical team wouldn’t have had him on his feet moving around if they suspected a break?

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Re: THB

Post by mdd2 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:49 pm

The concerns that it may be a fractured or a broken bone is worrying. If it is a bone lets hope it is fractured and not broken :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: THB

Post by mdd2 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:51 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:28 pm
My thoughts too.

Surely our medical team wouldn’t have had him on his feet moving around if they suspected a break?
Wasnt there but sounds he was wearing a weight relieving boot so that his foot was getting quite a lot of protection but keeping his leg active

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Re: THB

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:01 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:51 pm
Wasnt there but sounds he was wearing a weight relieving boot so that his foot was getting quite a lot of protection but keeping his leg active
Yes that’s what boots do but I wouldn’t have thought there was any urgency for his leg to be active in such a situation?

Anyway, we can speculate to death on this but we’ll find out for certain next week I’m sure. Fingers crossed for positive news. I wouldn’t like to be without him for a long period.

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Re: THB

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:11 pm

Vinny said this post match

"I don't know, that is what they do these days, protective boots, it might not be that bad."

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Re: THB

Post by thelifeofbrian » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:12 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:35 pm
I thought the injury may have happened when he collided with Cullen a few minutes earlier .

Re McNally - he was nervous to begin with and the clearance that lead to the second Bournemouth goal probably could have been avoided with a little more composure , but after that he started to find his feet, read the game very well in most parts and won his share of headers in our box. Playing in a game like that will do him no end of good . Well done Luke, but having said that THB back asap please to carry on our fine form
That's exactly what happened- both players went for the same ball, it was just after Cullens awful pass that Bournemouth scored from He was limping after that incident for about 5 minutes then went down for treatment

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Re: THB

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:13 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:51 pm
Wasnt there but sounds he was wearing a weight relieving boot so that his foot was getting quite a lot of protection but keeping his leg active
Can keep the leg active without walking across a pitch to clap the fans off, McNally grew into the game but it was clear to see at times how important THB and muric are for the style we play

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Re: THB

Post by claret2018 » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:15 pm

I could play the rest of the season at CB in this side and we’d still go up

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Re: THB

Post by NRC » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:17 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:04 pm
I am a doctor, and I absolutely agree with you. No urgent scan required. Get it later that day. Boot is fine until then
Are you a doctor in the same mold that PushPinPussy is a lawyer?
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Re: THB

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:18 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 07, 2023 7:28 pm
My thoughts too.

Surely our medical team wouldn’t have had him on his feet moving around if they suspected a break?
I've broken my 5th metatarsal bone 3 times and when that boots on its locked in and its 100% protected and walking around wont make a difference.

One of the times, not long after breaking it, I was out in town at an Oktoberfest night p*ssed out of my head dancing, jumping around and even falling over a few times (its hard to keep your balance in those boots when you're hammered) and it didn't damage or hurt my foot one little bit.

Biggest problem I had was timing when I could get back to sport as went to early one time and managed to re-break it.
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Re: THB

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:22 pm

Injury due to both he and Cullen going for the same ball with inevitable consequences.

McNally was wetting himself early in and could face getting xaufgt in possession, so nervously turned a couple out. Then, as the game progressed, he got better and better, inc one very needed, timely, last ditch tackle.

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