The Carlyle Podcast #43: Colin Waldron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlNfbg0poI

Don't know if it's been posted before. He's not too impressed with Bob Lord!

Carlyle has also done a couple with Paul Fletcher:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe9isjPoL5E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1jqo76hKgE

Thought Colin might be opening a new restaurant then, Hipper.

He talks about that. Says Colin Bell was very shy and introverted and did not want to meet the customers.

Waldron should have sourced their meat from Lord Bob
…problem solved!

Made some very direct statements about Bob Lord - something about seeing him the following Tuesday, or similar.

Really enjoyed this.What a player Colin Waldron (Waldo) was.I’ve been watching the Clarets since 1967.We’ve had some very good centre halves but he is my favourite.Blond bombshell.Hard as nails and very consistent.That 72/73 side was the best I’ve ever seen.And what a down to earth guy.Thanks

Top player was Waldo and a really top bloke too

Yes, some good stories in there. The Colin Blant - Peter Osgood one for example.

I never knew about Joe Brown and his religion. We seem to have a few strongly religious people in our ranks - Dave Merrington, Alan West, Doug Collins.

My neighbour played for Bury back in the late 60s. He rang me one day last year and said to call in for a brew as there was someone there I may know. When I arrived Waldo was sat in his front room! Had a cracking couple of hours reminiscing about that team of the early Seventies. Lovely bloke and massive practical joker!

Hipper wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:56 am

I never knew about Joe Brown and his religion. We seem to have a few strongly religious people in our ranks - Dave Merrington, Alan West, Doug Collins.

Merrington and Joe were both members of the Pentecostal Church. Joe was one of the nicest people you could ever wish to meet but as Waldo has said in that interview, he was Lord's puppet.

Big C: one of my favourite Clarets.

Hipper wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:56 am

I never knew about Joe Brown and his religion. We seem to have a few strongly religious people in our ranks - Dave Merrington, Alan West, Doug Collins.

and Eddie Cliff, lovely family.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:14 am

Merrington and Joe were both members of the Pentecostal Church. Joe was one of the nicest people you could ever wish to meet but as Waldo has said in that interview, he was Lord's puppet.

Some time during the mid sixties I went to a methodist Sunday school in Barrowford. If you had good attendance you were given a token for a book from a shop in Nelson. Once selected these were then presented, usually a by a Burnley footballer. I remember for example it was once Willie Morgan. The celebrity footballer usually hands out the prizes, says a few words then quietly disappears. On one occasion it was Joe Brown and Dave Merrington. They both stayed for quite a while and Joe did Bible readings and a fair old sermon.

I didn't know Collins and Cliff were religious. I knew about Merrington.

Was Cliff in the side that won the Youth Cup?

Quicknick wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 1:50 pm

I didn't know Collins and Cliff were religious. I knew about Merrington.

Eddie used to run the church at Hurstwood. Collins did so I think after he moved to Australia.

Mondsley wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:04 am

My neighbour played for Bury back in the late 60s. He rang me one day last year and said to call in for a brew as there was someone there I may know. When I arrived Waldo was sat in his front room! Had a cracking couple of hours reminiscing about that team of the early Seventies. Lovely bloke and massive practical joker!

Indeed.
Me and a mate, both about thirteen, used to go up to Gawthorpe any time we could.
One morning we went up, snow on the ground, absolutely freezing.
Waldron comes over, casual as you like, and asks if he can borrow my gloves. Dumbstruck, of course, I agreed.
Needless to say, after training he buggered off with my gloves.
We then usuallybwent down to the coffee shop on the bus station, I forget its name, as all the players usually piled in there.
I didn't have the nerve to ask for them back so we set off down the drive. Him and Kindon drove past, well aware of my embarrassment, even making a point of waving at us as they went past.
We'd got loads of autographs so I wasn't too fussed but, bless em, they stopped up the road and offered us a lift to the coffee shop.
Kindon was bonkers but they were both good lads.

Rumpelstiltskin wrote: ↑

Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:30 pm

Really enjoyed this.What a player Colin Waldron (Waldo) was.I’ve been watching the Clarets since 1967.We’ve had some very good centre halves but he is my favourite.Blond bombshell.Hard as nails and very consistent.That 72/73 side was the best I’ve ever seen.And what a down to earth guy.Thanks

That team was my favourite too.

My grandad used to be his 'bookie' in the local pub ( allegedly )

Really interesting stuff. A really good insight into football as it was managed and played in the 60s and 70s.
I don’t think he liked Bob Lord or Leeds.
At Chelsea he was known as Chopper Waldron, identical nickname to the then Captain who was Ron Harris.

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:12 pm

That team was my favourite too.

That team would almost undoubtably have won the league had it been kept together. Best team at Burnley in my time watching. Adamson was right, it could have been the team of the seventies. Unfortunately dismantled by Lord.

By the way Waldron was fantastic but my abiding memory of him was him hanging off Macdonalds hips trying to stop him from scoring in the FA cup semi. Hilarious.

SouthLondonexile wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:05 pm

Really interesting stuff. A really good insight into football as it was managed and played in the 60s and 70s.
I don’t think he liked Bob Lord or Leeds.
At Chelsea he was known as Chopper Waldron, identical nickname to the then Captain who was Ron Harris.

Yes but he could play great football too.

houseboy wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:55 pm

That team would almost undoubtably have won the league had it been kept together. Best team at Burnley in my time watching. Adamson was right, it could have been the team of the seventies. Unfortunately dismantled by Lord.

By the way Waldron was fantastic but my abiding memory of him was him hanging off Macdonalds hips trying to stop him from scoring in the FA cup semi. Hilarious.

I disagree on this one. Very good team but not that good.

The younger supporters will look back at this team we have now and say it was their favourite, just like we look back on the early 70's team. I'm enjoying the current team, but my fondest will be the 70's. Up to 76

vancouverclaret wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:49 am

The younger supporters will look back at this team we have now and say it was their favourite, just like we look back on the early 70's team. I'm enjoying the current team, but my fondest will be the 70's. Up to 76

My favourite era, too. Such a decline in 1975/76, though.

Quicknick wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:39 am

My favourite era, too. Such a decline in 1975/76, though.

Sadly Burnley had to sell to survive. Money had become the driver when it came to attracting new players. During the mid 1950’s through to about 1970 we had one of the most productive scouting networks in the country which produced an astonishing level of quality home grown talent. The model worked well and in the late 1960’s a few shrewd purchases (such as Waldron, Casper, Collins, Fletcher and Stevenson blended well with the talented youngsters. Unfortunately the talent supply dried up and Bob Lord sold the key players from the squad of 1970. Coates, Kindon and Thomas were all sold. The crucial season was 1974-75 when the heart of the team was ripped out. Captain Dobson went to Everton and mid season Geoff Nulty went to Newcastle. That started the slide from which arguably (despite a few false dawns) we didn’t properly recover from until 2009.

Great guy Waldron - so glad I was a young teenager and able to watch that team in the early 1970’s. A couple of top quality players coming in instead of going out could’ve seen a few major honours coming to the Turf.

Quicknick wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:59 am

I disagree on this one. Very good team but not that good.

That’s fine but which would you say was better? I’ve been actually watching them since about ‘68 so though I was a fan I never actually saw the Jimmy Mac team play. I don’t think any team under Sean Dyche came close and most of the previous years we were in the wilderness.
If you mean they wouldn’t have won the league that’s a moot point because we will never know. Just a matter of opinion really. Interesting to hear other thoughts on it though. Cheers.

I remember going on a ground tour just before we embarked on our first Premier League season under Dyche. I went with my Dad and my now, sadly, very unwell Granddad. Colin Waldron was a guest on the tour and he couldn't have been nicer to the group. My Granddad turned into a bit of a fanboy in his presence...I'd never seen anything like it

houseboy wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:26 am

That’s fine but which would you say was better? I’ve been actually watching them since about ‘68 so though I was a fan I never actually saw the Jimmy Mac team play. I don’t think any team under Sean Dyche came close and most of the previous years we were in the wilderness.
If you mean they wouldn’t have won the league that’s a moot point because we will never know. Just a matter of opinion really. Interesting to hear other thoughts on it though. Cheers.

Definitely my favourite team and a better one than any Dyche side. I don't think we would have won the league, but if we'd kept Dobson and maybe bought two quality players, we maybe would have, but economics dictated otherwise. A better side was the 1965/66 team, but I was only 11/12, so not the best judge, perhaps. Regards, Nick

houseboy wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:55 pm

That team would almost undoubtably have won the league had it been kept together. Best team at Burnley in my time watching. Adamson was right, it could have been the team of the seventies. Unfortunately dismantled by Lord.

By the way Waldron was fantastic but my abiding memory of him was him hanging off Macdonalds hips trying to stop him from scoring in the FA cup semi. Hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e65Sm_6Tew

One of my memories of Waldron was in a game at Stamford Bridge 70-71. We had already been relegated and it was the second to last match of that horrible season. Waldron was up against some of his former teammates and he was kicking them all over the park. Because of this I guess, Chelsea decided to put David Webb, a centre half and another hard man - up front. It was er, 'interesting'. Today half those players wouldn't have stayed on the pitch. We won 1-0

Hipper wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:15 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e65Sm_6Tew

McDonald comes over very well. I was behind that goal with the Burnley fans. What a crush.

Hipper wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 11, 2023 12:15 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e65Sm_6Tew

Cheers for that bud. I was behind that goal shouting to Waldron ‘Bring him down’. The rest is history. I like the commentary though saying Newcastle had achieved the victory ‘in great style’. The were sh!te and we were much the better side. They were an embarrassment in the final.