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Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:21 pm
by claretburns
Accrington Stanley beat Lincoln on penalties this evening to reach the semi finals of the EFL Trophy, just one win away from Wembley for the first time in their history.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:37 pm
by Devils_Advocate
My first trip to Wembley was in this competition back in the 80's when it was called something stupid like the Milk Cup. Not sure how many people remember it by but despite losing 2-0 to Wolves and being outnumbered by about 3 to 1 by their fans it was a brilliant day.
Good luck to Accrington Stanley and hope some of their young fans get a debut trip to Wembley just like I did back in '87
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:40 pm
by mdd2
Leyland Daf trophy I think it was in those days
My second trip to see us lose at Wembley only corrected when we beat Sheff Utd
Missed the Stockport Co. play off final as was away in business.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:44 pm
by Pommieclaret
80s Sherpa Van Trophy when we got beat with Wolves
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:46 pm
by Claretforever
It was called the Sherpa Van Trophy when Burnley went. Wolves had 48,000 of the crowd according to their paper, though I’m sure there’ll have also been a few thousand sponsors and player and staff comp tickets.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:47 pm
by Quickenthetempo
Our loan keeper Jensen saving the pens.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:48 pm
by Big Vinny K
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:37 pm
My first trip to Wembley was in this competition back in the 80's when it was called something stupid like the Milk Cup. Not sure how many people remember it by but despite losing 2-0 to Wolves and being outnumbered by about 3 to 1 by their fans it was a brilliant day.
Good luck to Accrington Stanley and hope some of their young fans get a debut trip to Wembley just like I did back in '87
Nearly got to Wembley in Milk cup - but beaten by Liverpool in 2 leg semi final.
Wolves = Sherpa Van.
Hope Accy reach the final
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:52 pm
by Devils_Advocate
Big Vinny K wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:48 pm
Nearly got to Wembley in Milk cup - but beaten by Liverpool in 2 leg semi final.
You must be getting mixed up as it was a competition for lower league teams only. We got beat off Stockport in the Northern Semi Final one year but sure that was only one leg. Either way you're obviously a little confused
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:03 pm
by Bosscat
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:52 pm
You must be getting mixed up as it was a competition for lower league teams only. We got beat off Stockport in the Northern Semi Final one year but sure that was only one leg. Either way you're obviously a little confused
The Milk Cup was the EFL cup back in the 80's surely
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Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:05 pm
by Darnhill Claret
Wasn’t the Milk Cup so called because that season it was sponsored by The Milk Marketing Board, also The Rumbelows Cup. My memory must be playing tricks on me as I thought they were all versions of The League Cup.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:05 pm
by Big Vinny K
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:52 pm
You must be getting mixed up as it was a competition for lower league teams only. We got beat off Stockport in the Northern Semi Final one year but sure that was only one leg. Either way you're obviously a little confused
Aye - confused or just caught out by another one of your unfunny posts.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:07 pm
by Casper2
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:52 pm
You must be getting mixed up as it was a competition for lower league teams only. We got beat off Stockport in the Northern Semi Final one year but sure that was only one leg. Either way you're obviously a little confused
I suppose it keeps you amused , but maybe get a life
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:07 pm
by Big Vinny K
Darnhill Claret wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:05 pm
Wasn’t the Milk Cup so called because that season it was sponsored by The Milk Marketing Board, also The Rumbelows Cup. My memory must be playing tricks on me as I thought they were all versions of The League Cup.
They were - your memory is not playing tricks on you.
Zenith Data trophy was one of the many names given to the lower league competition where we reached the final v Wolves when it was the Sherpa Van.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:08 pm
by Paul Waine
Sherpa Van Trophy final, May 1988 Wolves v Burnley. I'd moved down to London a little before this. It was good to see Burnley play at Wembley, the first game I'd got to since moving down here.
UTC
PS: I hope Accrington Stanley get to their Wembley final. That will be another good afternoon out.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:09 pm
by Bosscat
Big Vinny K wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:07 pm
They were - your memory is not playing tricks on you.
Zenith Data trophy was one of the many names given to the lower league competition where we reached the final v Wolves when it was the Sherpa Van.
Correct
Its DA confusing his cups (easy done by Leeds fans)
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:11 pm
by IanMcL
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:52 pm
You must be getting mixed up as it was a competition for lower league teams only. We got beat off Stockport in the Northern Semi Final one year but sure that was only one leg. Either way you're obviously a little confused
He is right. We did reach the 2 leg semi of the League Cup and lost to Liverpool, although we won 1 0 at home.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:12 pm
by Awayfromburnley
The Zenith Data was for div 1 and div 2 teams when English clubs were banned from Europe
Sherpa Van was for div 3 and div 4. Since called LDV, Autoglass ans EFL cup
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:13 pm
by Big Vinny K
Win win for DA
Gets something wrong but pretends he was being unfunny.
At least we know when he is talking about Leeds he’s just taking the p-iss and he really hates them just as much as every other football fan in the country.
Every cloud and all that
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:15 pm
by IanMcL
Paul Waine wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:08 pm
Sherpa Van Trophy final, May 1988 Wolves v Burnley. I'd moved down to London a little before this. It was good to see Burnley play at Wembley, the first game I'd got to since moving down here.
UTC
PS: I hope Accrington Stanley get to their Wembley final. That will be another good afternoon out.
Yes that Sherratt Van was the record attendance for 2 Division 4 sides at Wembley....by a mile.
Something like 84000 comes to mind. I think Burnley had well over 30k and nearer 40k. Not sure of the precision.
The pre match old former players was great, with Peter Noble playing like his life depended on it.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:17 pm
by Bosscat
IanMcL wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:15 pm
Yes that Sherpa Van was the record attendance for 2 Division 4 sides at Wembley....by a mile.
Something like 84000 comes to mind. I think Burnley had well over 30k and nearer 40k. Not sure of the precision.
The pre match old former players was great, with Peter Noble playing like his life depended on it.
Wasn't there more at Wembley for that final between 2 Div four clubs that at Wembley for an England International a few weeks before
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:17 pm
by Big Vinny K
Awayfromburnley wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:12 pm
The Zenith Data was for div 1 and div 2 teams when English clubs were banned from Europe
Sherpa Van was for div 3 and div 4. Since called LDV, Autoglass ans EFL cup
Is that correct ?
Wow - did not realise that. Apologies.
Was the Simod cup the same thing ?
I cannot remember any of the top sides at the time like Liverpool ever winning Zenith Data. Did some of them not enter ? Or was it an optional thing ?
Also did the League Cup also take place too ? I can’t remember that ever stopping.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:19 pm
by Bosscat
Big Vinny K wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:17 pm
Is that correct ?
Wow - did not realise that. Apologies.
Was the Simod cup the same thing ?
I cannot remember any of the top sides at the time like Liverpool ever winning Zenith Data. Did some of them not enter ? Or was it an optional thing ?
Also did the League Cup also take place too ? I can’t remember that ever stopping.
The League Cup didn't stop it was the 1st Cup Comp to be sponsored ...
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:20 pm
by IanMcL
League Cup always played. Different sponsors.
Yes Simon Cup was a special short term Cup.
I remember Reading doing well once. Might even have won.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:25 pm
by AfloatinClaret
Bosscat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:03 pm
The Milk Cup was the EFL cup back in the 80's surely
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A very young Steve Bruce on the right? i feel i ought to recognise the goalkeeper too
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:25 pm
by Rowls
Bosscat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:17 pm
Wasn't there more at Wembley for that final between 2 Div four clubs that at Wembley for an England International a few weeks before
It was the last 80,000+ football crowd in England until the new Wembley was opened in 2007 as attendance restrictions were brought in following Hillsborough.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:25 pm
by ClaretLoup
Bosscat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:17 pm
Wasn't there more at Wembley for that final between 2 Div four clubs that at Wembley for an England International a few weeks before
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Wasn’t it England vs Scotland?
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:26 pm
by Rowls
AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:25 pm
A very young Steve Bruce on the right? i feel i ought to recognise the goalkeeper too
Chris Wood(s)
England goalkeeper, normally second behind Shilton.
Played notably for rangers and one season with us under waddle. Never truly in his comfort zone with us.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:27 pm
by DCWat
Didn’t the club get given / win (not sure what for) a couple of Leyland DAF vans from one of the EFL cup sponsors, back in the day? I assume it was from Leyland sponsoring it - I’m sure I recall an article from a programme back in the day.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:29 pm
by martin_p
Top work DA
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:32 pm
by Bosscat
AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:25 pm
A very young Steve Bruce on the right? i feel i ought to recognise the goalkeeper too
I think you should because I think its "Chris Woods" he was with us at Burnley at the end of his career (Rowls has confirmed
)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Woods
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:34 pm
by Tricky Trevor
DCWat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:27 pm
Didn’t the club get given / win (not sure what for) a couple of Leyland DAF vans from one of the EFL cup sponsors, back in the day? I assume it was from Leyland sponsoring it - I’m sure I recall an article from a programme back in the day.
I was going to post the same. Used by the reserves and back and forth to Gawthorpe.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:39 pm
by Devils_Advocate
martin_p wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:29 pm
Top work DA
And at the same time prompted a pleasant trip down memory lane for some of my favourite messageboard friends
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:44 pm
by Bosscat
DCWat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:27 pm
Didn’t the club get given / win (not sure what for) a couple of Leyland DAF vans from one of the EFL cup sponsors, back in the day? I assume it was from Leyland sponsoring it - I’m sure I recall an article from a programme back in the day.
The Leyland/Daf model was called "The Sherpa"
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Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:05 pm
by tiger76
Accrington Stanley who are they?
Well Wembley might be about to find out.
Staggering they've never appeared at Wembley throughout their long history, can't be many clubs who have never played at Wembley with all the play-off's and various cups.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:09 pm
by andyh
IanMcL wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:11 pm
He is right. We did reach the 2 leg semi of the League Cup and lost to Liverpool, although we won 1 0 at home.
That was the only game my mum ever went to with me and dad. She was fuming after it because of the on field violence of the Liverpool team. Memory may he fading but Case and Souness were the main culprits. It took her days to calm down.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:10 pm
by elwaclaret
Bosscat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:44 pm
The Leyland/Daf model was called "The Sherpa"30497487935_b9af5da18e_b.jpg
We won a Sherpa van that day. It was often parked under the Bob Lord terracing. It looked very posh, white with Claret and Blue trim and obviously Burnley FC on the sides. Think it was used to ferry players/staff back and forth to Gawthorpe.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:14 pm
by ClaretLoup
Wade Elliott’s Chelmsford are also semi finalists.
Bobby Thomas though will miss out on a trip to Wembley as the Gas were knocked out 2 - 0 at home by Plymouth. He got booked as well.
Bolton are the other semi finalist.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:15 pm
by Claretforever
Each club received a Sherpa Van in the clubs livery. We used to park ours under the Bob Lord stand, basically where the business hub is now near to the club shop, but inside the ground.
They used to use it for years to ferry the players to and from Gawthorpe.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:21 pm
by chipbutty
tiger76 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:05 pm
Accrington Stanley who are they?
Well Wembley might be about to find out.
Staggering they've never appeared at Wembley throughout their long history, can't be many clubs who have never played at Wembley with all the play-off's and various cups.
We've only played them once competitively and that was when they beat us 1 nil in league cup 2016, and we're only 5 minutes away!
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:29 pm
by hoskinsgoalatswansea
Wow, it makes me feel old seeing how hazy and distant everyone’s memory of that day in ‘88 is. I remember it like it was yesterday, and can still name the Burnley line up.
I did however, convert the original vhs video of it to dvd and revisit it from time to time.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:31 pm
by dsr
tiger76 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:05 pm
Accrington Stanley who are they?
Well Wembley might be about to find out.
Staggering they've never appeared at Wembley throughout their long history, can't be many clubs who have never played at Wembley with all the play-off's and various cups.
I think, from memory, that there are only two league clubs that have never played at either the old or the new Wembley. Accrington Stanley being one of them, who is the other?
(Warning - I heard this question a year or two ago and might be misremembering. But I think I'm right.)
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:34 pm
by Pickles
Accy and Rovers are two of about five or six who've never played at the new Wembley. Newcastle would be another but they played against Spurs when Spurs were using it for home games.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:01 am
by AGENT_CLARET
Could be a good final of Bolton v Accy
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:19 am
by Masham Ale
When we played Wolves in the SV final we had a bigger crowd than the League Cup final that year which was Forest v Luton I think. We were both div 4 teams too
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 7:59 am
by Quicknick
Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:37 pm
My first trip to Wembley was in this competition back in the 80's when it was called something stupid like the Milk Cup. Not sure how many people remember it by but despite losing 2-0 to Wolves and being outnumbered by about 3 to 1 by their fans it was a brilliant day.
Good luck to Accrington Stanley and hope some of their young fans get a debut trip to Wembley just like I did back in '87
We were not outnumbered by their fans 3 to 1, at all. Wolves took 45,000 fans, Burnley, 35,000.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:04 am
by clarets1978
Other curious trophies for the list
The Debenhams Cup (Chester defo won this)
The Screensport Super Cup (I think Liverpool won this)
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:06 am
by clarets1978
Bosscat wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:19 pm
The League Cup didn't stop it was the 1st Cup Comp to be sponsored ...
There was a time in the early days of the League Cup where teams didnt enter.... Burnley being one of them between 1961/2 & 1964/5
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:45 am
by Stayingup
Pommieclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:44 pm
80s Sherpa Van Trophy when we got beat with Wolves
Bull (sh!t) as Burnley fans sang at the time!!!
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:03 am
by Fretters
Didn't we make the semi-final of this competition (Autoglass?) under Waddle in 98? We got a very decent draw at Grimsby in the first leg and were dreaming of Wembley, but they beat us at the Turf.
Re: Accrington Stanley at Wembley?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 10:09 am
by Jimmymaccer
Stayingup wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 9:45 am
Bull (sh!t) as Burnley fans sang at the time!!!
How different it was that “losing teams” fans still stayed for the presentations and lap of honour by both teams………I remember the “Bullsh….” Song with Steve bull and Andy mutch orchestrating the singing and smiling…..
Brilliant day out………….
