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Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:59 pm
by Ric_C
Thought it would be interesting to see how they are all doing based on the TV over the season and fans reactions on twitter
Pope - 10 million. we knew it was a steal at the time. Is playing phenomenology and is even closer to playing for England
Mee - Looks a great free transfer for a Brentford side comfortably in the top 10. Fans love him
Tarkowski - fans are turning on him, saying he's no better than Keane and can't play in a three or with Coady in a two
McNeil - 20 million - Done nothing of note for Everton. Fans hate him and there are rumours he wants out
Wood -25 million - Newcastle fans think he's rubbish. Got bad reviews off Forest fans today.
Collins - 20 million - Mixed reviews from Wolves fans. Still raw and has a mistake in him
Cornet -17 million - Done ok but has been injured for most of the season (bit like with us)
Long - Been disastrous in his first few games for Brum apparently
So a few things to come out of this. I think we got good money for a lot of these players, and choosing the right club is very important
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:06 pm
by Spiral
Oooof, £92m in incomings from a team that if last season's performances are the measure, would probably lose to this current one. We've done alright there, I reckon.
Basing that statement in part off the FA cup win against Bournemouth, which I think is a useful indicator of how this team might hypothetically stack up against last season's.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:11 pm
by Robbie_painter
When you look at it now,it’s been incredibly good business.Was worried at the time about losing so many of our ‘big’ players.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:15 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Can’t argue with any of the OP but feel for Tarks. Watched all of todays match and he was left of a back 3 first half, spent most of that as a LB and was a duck out of water.
Totally wasted on that side, in that team.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:40 pm
by Spiral
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:15 pm
Can’t argue with any of the OP but feel for Tarks. Watched all of todays match and he was left of a back 3 first half, spent most of that as a LB and was a duck out of water.
Totally wasted on that side, in that team.
Especially when you look at Mee and how well Brentford are doing. There's a cigarette paper between Mee and Tarkowski in terms of ability.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:45 pm
by Jakubclaret
To just think JT was hailed by some last season as the answer to evertons woes, SD got the best out of him & it worked but elsewhere massively overrated I think he contributed to bowens goal today & others where he's been completely anonymous, mee & JT complimented each other so well.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:52 pm
by GodIsADeeJay81
Tarks, and Keane before him, is suffering from having a clueless manager at Everton, with a poorly set up team that's now devoid of confidence.
Sticking him on the left of a back 3 is just plain stupid.
Everton are going down with Lampard in charge, he's well out of his depth
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:02 am
by Spiral
Moshiri attends his first Everton game since 2021, leaves the ground without speaking to Lampard, and when asked in the car park after the game if Lampard will be sacked, responds with the words, "not my decision," implying it's a board decision, and then it's reported a board meeting is to be convened.
Safe to say, Lampard is done.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:06 am
by Cheshireclaret
Unlike Keane, at the start of the season, Everton fans were crediting him (and Coady) with being the foundation upon which they could rebuild their Premier League status. Keane was getting pelters from day one.
The club is rotten and it's rotting from the head - the fans aren't turning on Lampard by and large, they're going after the board which includes club legend Graeme Sharp! As it stands, they look doomed.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:08 am
by Cheshireclaret
Spiral wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:02 am
Moshiri attends his first Everton game since 2021, leaves the ground without speaking to Lampard, and when asked in the car park after the game if Lampard will be sacked, responds with the words, "not my decision," implying it's a board decision, and then it's reported a board meeting is to be convened.
Safe to say, Lampard is done.
And, ironically, that will probably p155 The Gwladys Street End off even more!
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:18 am
by scouseclaret
Cheshireclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:06 am
Unlike Keane, at the start of the season, Everton fans were crediting him (and Coady) with being the foundation upon which they could rebuild their Premier League status. Keane was getting pelters from day one.
The club is rotten and it's rotting from the head - the fans aren't turning on Lampard by and large, they're going after the board which includes club legend Graeme Sharp! As it stands, they look doomed.
Even Keane won them round for a while after a very dodgy start and Tarko was getting rave reviews from most of the Evertonians I know earlier this season.
I think you have to ask questions about the coaching at Everton. Keane and Tarko were both highly capable players when we sold them - Everton seem to have ruined them somehow.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:29 am
by Cheshireclaret
scouseclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:18 am
Even Keane won them round for a while after a very dodgy start and Tarko was getting rave reviews from most of the Evertonians I know earlier this season.
I think you have to ask questions about the coaching at Everton. Keane and Tarko were both highly capable players when we sold them - Everton seem to have ruined them somehow.
Yeah I know what you're saying - there was no way Keane was going to be able to slot straight into a back 3 that were expected to play a high line and then on today's evidence, they're hanging Tarky out to dry too. But then Everton are a bizarre experiment. They've had managers that are either World Class or Best in Class (Ancelotti, Koeman, Benitez) and players that are World Class or apparently Best in Class (James, Richarlison, Digne) and home grown talent (Gordon, Davies) and legends on the board (Sharp) yet they appear to have completely and utterly fornicated any route they have gone down, to the extent that they are arguably worse now than they have been at any point in their top flight tenure!
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:37 am
by hoskinsgoalatswansea
Spiral wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:40 pm
Especially when you look at Mee and how well Brentford are doing. There's a cigarette paper between Mee and Tarkowski in terms of ability.
Very different players for me. Tarkowski has much more ability on the ball. Mee is more of a ‘they shall not pass’ kind of defender. Of the two, only Tarkowski could play in our current side.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 1:05 am
by Taffy on the wing
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:52 pm
Tarks, and Keane before him, is suffering from having a clueless manager at Everton, with a poorly set up team that's now devoid of confidence.
Sticking him on the left of a back 3 is just plain stupid.
Everton are going down with Lampard in charge, he's well out of his depth
I agree….he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
I watched a bit of their game today, he stands on the sidelines mumbling and making vague gestures with his hands. Meaningless.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:23 am
by jtv
I was impressed by McNeill's tracking back yesterday. How many times did he put in a telling tackle virtially as the last man?
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:30 am
by equinox
Ric_C wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:59 pm
Long - Been disastrous in his first few games for Brum apparently
You're not actually supposed to play the guy.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:39 am
by mdd2
Ric_C wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:59 pm
Thought it would be interesting to see how they are all doing based on the TV over the season and fans reactions on twitter
Pope - 10 million. we knew it was a steal at the time. Is playing phenomenology and is even closer to playing for England
Mee - Looks a great free transfer for a Brentford side comfortably in the top 10. Fans love him
Tarkowski - fans are turning on him, saying he's no better than Keane and can't play in a three or with Coady in a two
McNeil - 20 million - Done nothing of note for Everton. Fans hate him and there are rumours he wants out
Wood -25 million - Newcastle fans think he's rubbish. Got bad reviews off Forest fans today.
Collins - 20 million - Mixed reviews from Wolves fans. Still raw and has a mistake in him
Cornet -17 million - Done ok but has been injured for most of the season (bit like with us)
Long - Been disastrous in his first few games for Brum apparently
So a few things to come out of this. I think we got good money for a lot of these players, and choosing the right club is very important
We will owe some of that £95 million to the selling clubs-Collins Cornet and maybe Wood
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:25 am
by tiger76
Collins could yet improve at Wolves, and Mee and Pope choose wisely, as for the rest none are exactly pulling up trees at their new clubs are they.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:39 am
by Stayingup
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:15 pm
Can’t argue with any of the OP but feel for Tarks. Watched all of todays match and he was left of a back 3 first half, spent most of that as a LB and was a duck out of water.
Totally wasted on that side, in that team.
I agree and in fact Lampard knew he was going to play three at the back and Tarks on the left he shoukd have sugned Mee.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:45 am
by mdd2
Everton's next two games Arsenal home Liverpool away
Also have Chelsea and Man U away N/C and Spurs at home
They need BFS back
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:50 am
by Nonayforever
Missed Pieters & Lowton off that list.
Pieters doing well at WBA, hudds seem to be picking up the odd point lately.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:26 am
by Jakubclaret
tiger76 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:25 am
Collins could yet improve at Wolves, and Mee and Pope choose wisely, as for the rest none are exactly pulling up trees at their new clubs are they.
Did any of them have choices when they left? My understanding is the clubs they are at now were the only clubs who had any real firm interest in them, apart from JT as a free agent & more sought after than mee could have probably brokered a deal elsewhere from everton but the package on offer was the best he was going to get. Choices didn't really exist.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:32 am
by Ric_C
Nonayforever wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:50 am
Missed Pieters & Lowton off that list.
Pieters doing well at WBA, hudds seem to be picking up the odd point lately.
Yeah good point. Both very good pros, but in hindsight, we were paying relatively large wages to players at the end of their careers.
Also Lennon retired and Bardsley went to Stockport (fair play to him)
As for Dale Stephens, not actually sure where he went?
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:42 am
by Willy
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:52 pm
Tarks, and Keane before him, is suffering from having a clueless manager at Everton, with a poorly set up team that's now devoid of confidence.
Sticking him on the left of a back 3 is just plain stupid.
Everton are going down with Lampard in charge, he's well out of his depth
They're actually suffering more because they haven't got Ben Mee beside them to cover,cajole and direct them through their matches
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:53 am
by AGENT_CLARET
It's nice to think the money we got for Wood paid for this and the summer's Transfer window, thanks Newcastle
for helping to build this fantastic young squad
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:07 pm
by expoultryboy
Dale Stephens was on soccer am and is still looking for a club.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:08 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Stayingup wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:39 am
I agree and in fact Lampard knew he was going to play three at the back and Tarks on the left he shoukd have sugned Mee.
I watched the full match and what was stranger to me was Lampard selected Mykolenko and Gray left side but both played so far forward Tarks was isolated. He was badly at fault for the first, diving in when it was easier to see him down the line , and then his confidence dipped.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:34 pm
by ArthurNohair
expoultryboy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 12:07 pm
Dale Stephens was on soccer am and is still looking for a club.
Looked a worse footballer than Liam smith.
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:46 am
by ClaretTony
GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 21, 2023 11:52 pm
Tarks, and Keane before him, is suffering from having a clueless manager at Everton, with a poorly set up team that's now devoid of confidence.
And maybe also suffering from not playing in a Dyche system and playing alongside Ben Mee
Re: Players we sold in the last few windows
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:02 pm
by AfloatinClaret
Ric_C wrote: ↑Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:32 am
...As for Dale Stephens, not actually sure where he went?
Went from where; here? I didn't realise that Stephens had ever actually arrived; I just assumed he was doing the working from home thing even before Covid made it popular.
for helping to build this fantastic young squad