Everton immediately finding it as difficult as we did getting players through the door....

The Dyche fear factor knowing they would have to get fit

Never easy when the window closes the day after you are appointed...

Kompany doesn’t have any problems recruiting… we did under Dyche

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:09 am

Never easy when the window closes the day after you are appointed...

Madness on here at times isn’t it

The facts that Everton are in 19th place, fighting relegation, have no money and the owner has just put them up for sale, will have nothing to do with no signings, me thinks it is not the fault of Sean Dyche.
The only reason Tarkowski went there is because he knew Dyche would follow

They got Dyche in how long before the transfer window closed? About two days. JC himself would have struggled to get people in, given that time scale.

He's got a hell of a job on his hands and he will know it, hence his 2.5 year contract.

CnBtruntru wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:14 am

The facts that Everton are in 19th place, fighting relegation, have no money and the owner has just put them up for sale, will have nothing to do with no signings, me thinks it is not the fault of Sean Dyche.
The only reason Tarkowski went there is because he knew Dyche would follow

150k a week was a fair old sweetner !!!

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:11 am

Kompany doesn’t have any problems recruiting… we did under Dyche

Getting good players for the Championship is totally different to getting good players in the Premier League.

Scousers attacking their own players is hardly a recruitment positive.

Spijed wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:25 am

Getting good players for the Championship is totally different to getting good players in the Premier League.

Or so you’ve been led to believe

…completely outweighed by the idiotic nutters who call themselves fans hounding players out of their club

But no, of course Dyche hasn’t done anything to bring players in

Stayingup wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:23 am

150k a week was a fair old sweetner !!!

But that has nothing to do with the transfer pull of Sean Dyche, no one wants to go to Everton because they are in the mire, as far as Dyche he probably looks at it as a challenge and he will need all the luck he can get with the toxic atmosphere at Everton.

I know people are living with their agenda and trying their best to cope but blaming Everton's lack of signings this window on Dyche are reaching new levels of stupidity

Frank Lampard was Everton manager for 22 days of the transfer window, Sean Dyche two and they didn’t sign a player in the whole of the window. I think it’s the pull of a club being torn apart that’s the issue.

If you had to choose between Everton or Spurs, it's a bit of a no brainer really, regardless of who's manager.

They did try to get players in, but Everton are a real mess.

To think it's Dyche's fault is just bizarre and probably says more about you than Dyche.

Papabendi wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:05 am

Everton immediately finding it as difficult as we did getting players through the door....

I wonder which closed first, the transfer window or the door Dyche walked through. I mean, of all the thing to criticise him for.
The way some of you post on here, you would think he had taken us from the EPL to the bottom of the National League. God help us when we do actually get a crap manager.

I still think he's got good enough players there to stay up then build next term. Just google their list.

Had enough pull for Weghorst who’s deemed good enough for United mind

What pulling power do Nathan Jones, Gary O’Neill and Steve Cooper have?

The difference is their billionaire backers threw money at the problem, not just in this window.

Everton are struggling with FFP, have a divided board, a massive investment in a new stadium, they have a director of football/recruitment who appears to be a bit like the fella we had here and a disgruntled fan base. They have burnt through a series of managers, have no forward long term plan.

Yet some on here think it’s Dyches lack of pulling power. In this shitty stick of a situation he is about the only positive they have.

It’s daft to blame Dyche for this, but as we found, his appointment probably won’t have helped. Who was that player who chose Championship Bournemouth over us because he didn’t think Dyche’s football would suit him?

The club is in a real mess, and if Dyche’s time with us is anything to go by, his management tends to be less effective when there’s turmoil round the place.

The champagne corks might be popping at Finch Farm yet if they can get Andre Ayew over the line

claret2018 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:11 am

It’s daft to blame Dyche for this, but as we found, his appointment probably won’t have helped. Who was that player who chose Championship Bournemouth over us because he didn’t think Dyche’s football would suit him?

The club is in a real mess, and if Dyche’s time with us is anything to go by, his management tends to be less effective when there’s turmoil round the place.

That was Christie, from Celtic.

I know he's a regular starter but I don't know if he's pulling up any trees

And they’re off. All those who cannot take any Dyche criticism.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:21 am

And they’re off. All those who cannot take any Dyche criticism.

Do you think you will reach a stage in your life that he doesn't live for free in your head ?

There is nobody on here that talks about Dyche more than you.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:21 am

And they’re off. All those who cannot take any Dyche criticism.

Fair criticism is fine, but criticising him for Everton’s lack of signings is a long way off fair.

MrTopTier wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:09 am

What pulling power do Nathan Jones, Gary O’Neill and Steve Cooper have?

The difference is their billionaire backers threw money at the problem, not just in this window.

Everton are struggling with FFP, have a divided board, a massive investment in a new stadium, they have a director of football/recruitment who appears to be a bit like the fella we had here and a disgruntled fan base. They have burnt through a series of managers, have no forward long term plan.

Yet some on here think it’s Dyches lack of pulling power. In this shitty stick of a situation he is about the only positive they have.

Everton spent more than half a billion pounds on players over a 5 year period so I would be very surprised if Bournemouth and Southampton have spent more.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:21 am

And they’re off. All those who cannot take any Dyche criticism.

I bet you mention Dyche 10 times more than anyone else did he run over your pet frog or something

Bosscat wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:25 am

I bet you mention Dyche 10 times more than anyone else did he run over your pet frog or something

Of shaggy's last 9 posts 8 are about Dyche. He is heading towards 90% obsession rate with Dyche. Poor boy

Easy pickings today.

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:25 am

Everton spent more than half a billion pounds on players over a 5 year period so I would be very surprised if Bournemouth and Southampton have spent more.

Net spend

Southampton: £-178.7m
22/23: £-122.07m
21/22: £15.23m (15th)
20/21: £-9.71m (15th)
19/20: £-30.19m (11th)
18/19: £-31.91m (16th)

Everton: £-124.94m
22/23: £22.27m
21/22: £5.74m (16th)
20/21: £-60.86m (10th)
19/20: £-29.3m (12th)
18/19: £-62.8m (8th

Bournemouth: £-59.18m
22/23: £-73.43m
21/22: £12.59m (2nd in Championship)
20/21: £82.57m (6th in Championship)
19/20: £-17.91m (18th)
18/19: £-63.02m (14th)

https://www.football365.com/news/transf ... d-man-city

Strikes me that during this window Everton weren't doing anything recruitment wise regardless of who was manager.

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:25 am

Everton spent more than half a billion pounds on players over a 5 year period so I would be very surprised if Bournemouth and Southampton have spent more.

They have and that is again part of the problem, they threw money at it buying a series of average players who have underperformed. Dyche is now picking up the reins but has been given no money, but is left with those transfers brought in by other managers.
Agreed that Southampton and Bournemouth have not spent more over a five year period, I was referencing this window.

kentonclaret wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:25 am

Everton spent more than half a billion pounds on players over a 5 year period so I would be very surprised if Bournemouth and Southampton have spent more.

Incredible isn't it £500m and counting and they could well be playing the likes of Rotherham next season.

Regarding the OP, yes Dyche did have a mixed track record on attracting players to Burnley, however on balance he generally got it right more often than not, although in recent years the hits have become less and the misses grown,.

Let's be real here why on earth would any player worth their salt won't to go to Everton, the club is in a total shambles on and off the pitch, with the very real prospect of Championship football looming.

They didn't sign anyone this January when Lampard was at the helm, and despite selling Gordon at the 11th hour they still can't attract players.

Can't all be down to SD, as most players know that managers at Everton rarely last long these days.

Congrats to Papabendi on an excellent haul.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:11 am

Kompany doesn’t have any problems recruiting… we did under Dyche

You’re aware we’re in the championship ? Was nothing whatsoever to do with SD , it was the sheer lack of investment from the board ( for yrs) and our “ crap “ wages simple as that .
Vinny’s doing a brilliant job and balancing the loan players well . To compare VK’s tenure with SD’s 10yrs + is ludicrous .

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:09 am

Never easy when the window closes the day after you are appointed...

Come on now. Don’t let common sense get in the way of the Dyche bashers.

Give it a rest, Shaggy. You're embarrassing yourself.

Like we did during his time at Burnley, Dyche needs to be given time at Everton. But whether they will as another thing. I would say probably something of a blessing in disguise they've not made any last-minute panic signings - the onus is on Sean Dyche and the coaching team to get the best out of the squad they have in the short-term, aim to keep them up and then have a busy summer in terms of ins / outs. Whether the Everton supporters will afford him that time is another thing though, their expectations are beyond the reality of where they are now and have been in the last 2-3 seasons. Things usually get worse before they get better when rebuilding - not sure Everton fans will stomach that and the very real threat of relegation. Relegation wouldn't be the disaster the club think - likelihood is they'll bounce straight back and have momentum. Again though, will the club and the fans accept that - probably not.

Dyche bashing is fun. As a side effect get to see all those with low EQ go tonto. Kick Dyche and a few keyboard warriors get a limp.

Maybe you can all chip in and create a Dyche fc goodness me

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:14 pm

Dyche bashing is fun. As a side effect get to see all those with low EQ go tonto. Kick Dyche and a few keyboard warriors get a limp.

Low EQ?

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:14 pm

Dyche bashing is fun. As a side effect get to see all those with low EQ go tonto. Kick Dyche and a few keyboard warriors get a limp.

It's called trolling. How old are you? Most kids grow out of attention-seeking when they become adults.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:24 pm

Low EQ?

Heh. He's a real Dunning–Kruger, as well as a sad old troll.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:14 pm

As a side effect get to see all those with low EQ go tonto.

Ha! You couldn’t make it up!

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:25 pm

Heh. He's a real Dunning–Kruger, as well as a sad old troll.

Your all over the place. One minute not an adult then a sad old troll make your kind up.

At the end of the day if certain people never went way overboard with their defence of Dyche at all costs then they wouldn’t get wound up. It’s called life.

I would suggest that those who avidly follow Dyche disappear to support Everton or which ever club he goes to when he gets sacked again.

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:33 pm

Your all over the place. One minute not an adult then a sad old troll make your kind up.

I made my mind up when you described yourself as a troll. Anyroad, forget about that. I'm more interested in this EQ of yours?

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:38 pm

I made my mind up when you described yourself as a troll. Anyroad, forget about that. I'm more interested in this EQ of yours?

I get the feeling you will have to explain to shaggy what you mean. I am sensing his EQ is that low he won't have a clue what you are on about.

Poor boy doesn't help himself does he when he gives it a go at coming across as educated

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 02, 2023 12:33 pm

Your all over the place. One minute not an adult then a sad old troll make your kind up.

At the end of the day if certain people never went way overboard with their defence of Dyche at all costs then they wouldn’t get wound up. It’s called life.

I would suggest that those who avidly follow Dyche disappear to support Everton or which ever club he goes to when he gets sacked again.

Thing is you’re the one who hasn’t moved on. Most of us have said thank you very much, wished him well and will take a passing interest in how he’s doing and get on with our lives. It’s a normal response. You’re like the stalker ex-boyfriend. Constantly bad mouthing your ex, hoping she (or he) doesn’t find another boyfriend and if they do hoping they’re miserable together. It consumes you. Have you considered some sort of therapy?