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Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:34 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Sky reporting.
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Condolences to all that have suffered loss in this dreadful disaster. Best wishes to all tge injured
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:44 pm
by HiThere
I've had Sky News on all day. Shocking stuff.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:56 pm
by Bosscat
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 2:34 pm
Sky reporting.
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Condolences to all that have suffered loss in this dreadful disaster. Best wishes to all tge injured
Wow hadn`t heard that, shocking if true
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 5:42 pm
by Billy Balfour
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:24 pm
by ecc
Was in class with a Turkish girl who showed me the pictures. Sadly, Turkey is one of those countries that suffers eathquakes regularly.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:31 pm
by BurnleyFC
Sad news.
We have family that live in Alanya. Thankfully, all are OK, even though they felt the quake and it’s a fair distance from the epicentre.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 7:23 pm
by tiger76
Horrendous pictures to view hope they manage to rescue some of those trapped, however sadly the death toll is only likely to rise.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:25 pm
by houseboy
Been watching on the news tonight. I’m neither squeamish nor overly emotional when it comes to disasters but I found myself fighting back tears watching. Seeing those hi rise flats just collapse and thinking there may still be people in them and then the news of all the deaths made me realise that what we take for granted can be taken away in seconds.
Then I thought of all the childish and pointless arguments we have on here about things that mostly are not that important and I realised, not for the first time, that we often forget when we are doing so that life is so precious and delicate and marvellous and squabbling between each other over nothing very important at all is so utterly, utterly pointless.
Apologies for the above but sometimes, just occasionally, I wake up to what is actually real.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:47 pm
by Jakubclaret
houseboy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 06, 2023 11:25 pm
Been watching on the news tonight. I’m neither squeamish nor overly emotional when it comes to disasters but I found myself fighting back tears watching. Seeing those hi rise flats just collapse and thinking there may still be people in them and then the news of all the deaths made me realise that what we take for granted can be taken away in seconds.
Then I thought of all the childish and pointless arguments we have on here about things that mostly are not that important and I realised, not for the first time, that we often forget when we are doing so that life is so precious and delicate and marvellous and squabbling between each other over nothing very important at all is so utterly, utterly pointless.
Apologies for the above but sometimes, just occasionally, I wake up to what is actually real.
It’s very sobering & kind of makes you connect to things you struggle to imagine, I was going to comment earlier on the thread but didn’t really know what to say, we’ve got hell of a lot to be thankful for but don’t always realise it until something like this happens.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:35 pm
by Tricky Trevor
GOOD NEWS.
Christian Atsu has been rescued alive but with injuries. Sadly his clubs sporting director is still under the rubble.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:45 pm
by Colburn_Claret
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:35 pm
GOOD NEWS.
Christian Atsu has been rescued alive but with injuries. Sadly his clubs sporting director is still under the rubble.
I hadn't really watched it yesterday, I knew it had happened but was busy.
Got to watch the pictures and films last night, and it was horrific. Those poor people, my heart goes out to them.
No point in blaming anybody, but going forward they need to be a lot smarter re the height of buildings, and ensuring they are shock resistant. To see infrastructure like that, in an area susceptible to earthquakes is a head shaker.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 2:17 pm
by Jakubclaret
Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:45 pm
I hadn't really watched it yesterday, I knew it had happened but was busy.
Got to watch the pictures and films last night, and it was horrific. Those poor people, my heart goes out to them.
No point in blaming anybody, but going forward they need to be a lot smarter re the height of buildings, and ensuring they are shock resistant. To see infrastructure like that, in an area susceptible to earthquakes is a head shaker.
I'm not sure you can factor in any sort of architecture or materials which are earthquake resistant it starts from the foundations, without even going into the practicality or economical viability but now's not the time to debate that, it is what it is.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:46 pm
by bfcmik
When even a Roman fortress that has stood for 1500 years or so collapses you know it was a bad 1, or 2 if you include the almost a bad aftershock.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:47 pm
by evensteadiereddie
As Colburn says, there's no point in apportioning blame now but, looking to the future, you'd hope that infrastructure in potential earthquake susceptible areas would "factor" in a greater resistance to one or, indeed, full proofing.
Discussing this takes nothing away from our understanding of the suffering and devastation those folk are facing.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 5:42 pm
by Jakubclaret
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:47 pm
As Colburn says, there's no point in apportioning blame now but, looking to the future, you'd hope that infrastructure in potential earthquake susceptible areas would "factor" in a greater resistance to one or, indeed, full proofing.
Discussing this takes nothing away from our understanding of the suffering and devastation those folk are facing.
It doesn't but some of the discussions often descend into arguments if you think it's that's fitting on such a thread crack on but I won't be joining you as this is my last post on the thread, regarding better infrastructure I should imagine money would need to be spent & if it was viable it would have already been looked at & done, the country in certain areas is very deprived run down & the people aren't the wealthiest I don't see the government having the appetite on spending substantial amounts of money they aren't going to get back, I don't know how frequent the earthquakes are or how damaging they are when their happen obviously this is a major 1 but if they don't happen that often or when they do their are small maybe therein lies the answer.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 6:00 pm
by evensteadiereddie
Why would you suggest even the possibility of argument on a thread such as this?
Very odd.
I think the point is that a lot of infrastructure in these areas is, generally speaking, quite old and not particularly well constructed.
I think that's why Colburn and I stressed quite strongly that from now on any building in earthquake prone areas should be earthquake proof or, at least, resistant.
Hope this is OK with you.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2023 7:24 pm
by tiger76
bfcmik wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:46 pm
When even a Roman fortress that has stood for 1500 years or so collapses you know it was a bad 1, or 2 if you include the almost a bad aftershock.
Their most powerful earthquake since 1939, and yes the aftershock measured 7.5 only slightly below the 7.8 of the initial shock.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:45 pm
by Holmeclaret
Death toll now at 11,000. This must be devastating for Halil Dervishoglu. I hope that his family is safe and well away from the area affected.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:53 pm
by clerkenwell.claret
It’s not earthquakes that kill people, it’s buildings.
It’s perfectly possible to design buildings of almost any height to resist earthquakes of any magnitude.
The Turks are actually skilled in seismic design.
But the building failures we see are a result of contractors knowingly cutting corners, omitting reinforcement or connections to foundations.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:38 pm
by Bordeauxclaret
Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Tue Feb 07, 2023 1:35 pm
GOOD NEWS.
Christian Atsu has been rescued alive but with injuries. Sadly his clubs sporting director is still under the rubble.
Reports now saying he’s still missing.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:24 pm
by Tricky Trevor
Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 12:38 pm
Reports now saying he’s still missing.
Sadly seen that. It’s not looking good for him.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:26 pm
by Lip
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:36 pm
by Bosscat
Turkey is the only country I have felt an Earthquake ... (Kusadasi about 12 years ago ... very minor but the building was shaking) ... Its impossible to comprehend how devastating it must be to have family involved ...
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 6:47 pm
by Royboyclaret
clerkenwell.claret wrote: ↑Wed Feb 08, 2023 6:53 pm
It’s not earthquakes that kill people, it’s buildings.
It’s perfectly possible to design buildings of almost any height to resist earthquakes of any magnitude.
The Turks are actually skilled in seismic design.
But the building failures we see are a result of contractors knowingly cutting corners, omitting reinforcement or connections to foundations.
Wow, what a damning indictment that is of so-called competent contractors.......Beggars belief, really.
Re: Turkish earthquake
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:30 am
by IanMcL
Anyone able - something we can do to help, from afar.
https://www.dec.org.uk/?gclid=CjwKCAiA0 ... jIQAvD_BwE
