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ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:42 pm
by ClaretTony
Last Saturday, Hjalmar Ekdal became the 350th player (not including any own goals) to score a post-war league goal for Burnley.
See link
https://www.uptheclarets.com/no-350-hjalmar-ekdal
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:47 pm
by Bosscat
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:49 pm
by tally
Wow that is definately an interesting piece of ongoing history
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:58 pm
by Ashingtonclaret46
THanks Tony, enjoyed reading that and wondering just how many of the 350 I have actaully seen playing since my first game in 1952.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:00 pm
by Zooniverser
Good read that, thanks.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:02 pm
by Suratclaret
Certainly a few โblasts from the pastโ!
Great read.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:03 pm
by ClaretTony
Ashingtonclaret46 wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 2:58 pm
THanks Tony, enjoyed reading that and wondering just how many of the 350 I have actaully seen playing since my first game in 1952.
I'm at 315 although one of them, Jimmy Dunne, I only saw on TV having only played for us at first team level in the 2020/21 season.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:33 pm
by sandy richardson
Looks like World War II was a lucky break for us. If the 1939/40 result vs Birmingham City had stood, they would have been promoted instead of us in 1947. Every cloud.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:20 pm
by CleggHall
Excellent article Tony, thanks.
I never really thought of Jimmy Mac as a goal scorer but the statistics show just how wrong I was/am.
Whatever, he was a fine magician.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:47 pm
by Falcon
Great article that
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:39 pm
by Rowls
Great stuff Tony, thanks for that.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:04 pm
by NottsClaret
Interesting stuff. Brendan O'Connell is always a good reminder of how clueless fans can be.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:35 pm
by Royboyclaret
CleggHall wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 4:20 pm
Excellent article Tony, thanks.
I never really thought of Jimmy Mac as a goal scorer but the statistics show just how wrong I was/am.
Whatever, he was a fine magician.
At least three times as many goals created. The greatest Claret of all-time and that includes Tommy Boyle.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:39 pm
by Bfc
Thanks Tony, an article that deserves special mention.
Does/ could anyone say how many Nationalities are on that list of scorers?.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:54 pm
by ClaretTony
Bfc wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 7:39 pm
Thanks Tony, an article that deserves special mention.
Does/ could anyone say how many Nationalities are on that list of scorers?.
I donโt know how many without going through it but not too many years ago it would probably have five, the four Home Countries and Ireland.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:02 pm
by Royboyclaret
Bfc wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 7:39 pm
Thanks Tony, an article that deserves special mention.
Does/ could anyone say how many Nationalities are on that list of scorers?.
Special mention does not even begin to give the article the justice it deserves......Simply remarkable dedication.
331, for me, but sure I've forgotten someone.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:18 pm
by NRC
Royboyclaret wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 8:02 pm
Special mention does not even begin to give the article the justice it deserves......Simply remarkable dedication.
I'll second that. The opening is particularly strong before going into some remarkable research to capture the rest. From a writing perspective I'll personally put that as CT's best.
Having started at post-war, it does make you wonder what the total number is since FL inception
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:37 pm
by Royboyclaret
Come on CT, you're logged in .
Where does Tommy Boyle fit into to all this ?
Captain of the FA Cup winning team into 1914, fights for his country in WW1, captains Burnley side to League One Championship in 1921 ?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:39 pm
by CleggHall
Royboy - agree with all your comments re Jimmy Mac, you and me were very fortunate to see him play on many occasions. The finest claret ever and probably the reason we are having this conversation/tribute some 64 years later.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 8:50 pm
by Royboyclaret
CleggHall wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 8:39 pm
Royboy - agree with all your comments re Jimmy Mac, you and me were very fortunate to see him play on many occasions. The finest claret ever and probably the reason we are having this conversation/tribute some 64 years later.
Absolutely CleggHall, dancing along that bye-line that Cricket-Field end, taking three opposing defenders out of the game to create a tap in for Jimmy Robson ?........You couldn't make it up.
As you say, the greatest Claret ever........ and yet my Dad reminds me of the great Tommy Boyle....... Where's Claret Tony ?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:03 pm
by ClaretTony
Royboyclaret wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 8:37 pm
Come on CT, you're logged in .
Where does Tommy Boyle fit into to all this ?
Captain of the FA Cup winning team into 1914, fights for his country in WW1, captains Burnley side to League One Championship in 1921 ?
1 Iโm permanently logged in, I leave myself logged in.
2. Tommy Boyle doesnโt fit into it at all. Not sure why he would.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:04 pm
by ClaretTony
CleggHall wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 8:39 pm
Royboy - agree with all your comments re Jimmy Mac, you and me were very fortunate to see him play on many occasions. The finest claret ever and probably the reason we are having this conversation/tribute some 64 years later.
My granddad would have told you that Bob Kelly was the best ever.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:07 pm
by distortiondave
1) are there any goalkeepers on that list and if so
2) can we get a I-XI of one goal wonders?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:10 pm
by Royboyclaret
ClaretTony wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:04 pm
My granddad would have told you that Bob Kelly was the best ever.
Dad also speaks so highly of Bob Kelly......but to be better than Mac he must have been one hell of a player.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:17 pm
by Royboyclaret
distortiondave wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:07 pm
1) are there any goalkeepers on that list and if so
2) can we get a I-XI of one goal wonders?
Injury robbed Colin McDonald of being the greatest England keeper of all-time.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:18 pm
by ClaretTony
distortiondave wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:07 pm
1) are there any goalkeepers on that list and if so
2) can we get a I-XI of one goal wonders?
No goalkeepers Iโm afraid
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:24 pm
by ClaretTony
distortiondave wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:07 pm
1) are there any goalkeepers on that list and if so
2) can we get a I-XI of one goal wonders?
Here's your list of the one goal wonders
Dele Adebola
Mark Allen
Paul Atkinson
Samuel Bastien
Jordan Beyer
Dean Bowditch
Chris Brass
Martyn Busby
Gary Cahill
John Clayton
Tom Cowan
Josh Cullen
Tendayi Darikwa
Nathan Delfouneso
Halil Derviลoฤlu
Phil Devaney
Drissa Diallo
Paul Dixon
Richard Duffy
Jimmy Dunne
Brian Easton
Phil Eastwood
Hjalmar Ekdal
Tony Ellis
Ronnie Fenton
Mark Ford
Danny Fox
Ben Gibson
Phil Gray
John Guidetti
Jason Hardy
Taylor Harwood-Bellis
Darren Heesom
Jimmy Heggarty
Kevin Henderson
Rouwen Hennings
David Holt
Ron Hornby
Micah Hyde
Christian Kalvenes
Kevin Kennerley
Reg Kirkham
Kevin Long
Paul Mahorn
Paul McDonald
John McGreal
Andy McLaren
Josh McQuoid
Tyrone Mears
Dave Merrington
Ian Muir
Liam O'Neill
John Oster
Ally Pickering
Rob Regis
Mark Robertson
Andy Robinson
Gary Rowell
Andy Saville
Frank Sinclair
Dave Smith
Fred Smith
Harold Spencer
Jeff Tate
Wayne Thomas
Steve Thompson
Sammy Todd
Scott Twine
David Unsworth
Chris Waddle
David Walker
Neil Whatmore
Michael Williams
Ian Wilson
Doug Winton
Neil Wood
Wilf Wrigley
Mark Yates
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:27 pm
by Royboyclaret
ClaretTony wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:04 pm
My granddad would have told you that Bob Kelly was the best ever.
Did your grandad also see Jimmy Mac play ?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:29 pm
by ClaretTony
Royboyclaret wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:27 pm
Did your grandad also see Jimmy Mac play ?
Very much so - went on until end of the 1969/70 season - I used to stand with him and my dad.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:33 pm
by Royboyclaret
ClaretTony wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:29 pm
Very much so - went on until end of the 1969/70 season - I used to stand with him and my dad.
And he rated him higher than Jimmy Mac ?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:40 pm
by ClaretTony
Royboyclaret wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:33 pm
And he rated him higher than Jimmy Mac ?
He did - I was once at a dinner back in 2000 which was being held to commemorate the naming of the Jimmy Mac Stand. Jimmy told the story of the man he used to sit and chat to in Scott Park. This old man told him: "Jimmy, you were a good'n but Bob Kelly was the best." Jimmy told us that night in response: "So you are all wrong thinking it's me."
I only saw Jimmy Mac at the back end but I know how good he was and Brian Miller once told me that it was questionable that we could have ever won the league without him. All I'll say is that Kelly must have been bloody good to be compared with him. Kelly played league football to the age of 42/43 which back then was remarkable.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:45 pm
by Cubanforever
You are our Statto Tony and we are lucky to have you, nice read thanks
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:47 pm
by Royboyclaret
ClaretTony wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:40 pm
He did - I was once at a dinner back in 2000 which was being held to commemorate the naming of the Jimmy Mac Stand. Jimmy told the story of the man he used to sit and chat to in Scott Park. This old man told him: "Jimmy, you were a good'n but Bob Kelly was the best." Jimmy told us that night in response: "So you are all wrong thinking it's me."
I only saw Jimmy Mac at the back end but I know how good he was and Brian Miller once told me that it was questionable that we could have ever won the league without him. All I'll say is that Kelly must have been bloody good to be compared with him. Kelly played league football to the age of 42/43 which back then was remarkable.
Fair play, then. Kelly must have been very special.
Mac gave me me the dreams that were unprecedended.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:49 pm
by dougcollins
Chris Waddle. I'm sure that was a cross.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:55 pm
by ClaretTony
dougcollins wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 9:49 pm
Chris Waddle. I'm sure that was a cross.
I remember it as a typical Waddle goal - down the right, dropped shoulder and a left foot shot into the far corner. Eddie Howe scored his first ever goal in the same game.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:02 pm
by Royboyclaret
From a captaincy point of view.......has anyone ever contributed more than than Tommy Boyle ?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:04 pm
by ClaretTony
Royboyclaret wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 10:02 pm
From a captaincy point of view.......has anyone ever contributed more than than Tommy Boyle ?
This article is about post-war goalscorers
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:07 pm
by Royboyclaret
ClaretTony wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 10:04 pm
This article is about post-war goalscorers
I'm aware of that....but I'm still asking the question.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:11 pm
by ClaretTony
Royboyclaret wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 10:07 pm
I'm aware of that....but I'm still asking the question.
Then maybe elsewhere - just don't understand the obsession with Tommy Boyle on a thread related to post-war goalscorers.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:14 pm
by Royboyclaret
ClaretTony wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 10:11 pm
Then maybe elsewhere - just don't understand the obsession with Tommy Boyle on a thread related to post-war goalscorers.
Obsession ?.....Not at all.
Broken Hero, perhaps ?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:24 pm
by Royboyclaret
Where's MikeS ?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:36 pm
by Bfc
Having seen the remarks by some, about the wording of my post. I meant it to read as a special mention to Tony. The work he has put in on this and other factual articles, is both very interesting for everyone. But more so for the post war baby era, who have seen a lot more of those players score those goals. I havenโt even begun to count how many Iโve seen score YET.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:45 pm
by wrj20
Which was the best of the one goal wonders? Micah Hyde vs the bastards?
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:49 pm
by ClaretTony
wrj20 wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 10:45 pm
Which was the best of the one goal wonders? Micah Hyde vs the bastards?
Micah Hyde's only league goal was against Sheffield United
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:52 pm
by ClaretTony
Bfc wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 10:36 pm
Having seen the remarks by some, about the wording of my post. I meant it to read as a special mention to Tony. The work he has put in on this and other factual articles, is both very interesting for everyone. But more so for the post war baby era, who have seen a lot more of those players score those goals. I havenโt even begun to count how many Iโve seen score YET.
Thanks Bfc - frightening how many I've see but all of the players since October 1960 when I first started going although. I did miss the Tommy Cummings wonder goal against Newcastle though, I was seven days old at the time, my dad must have thought I was too young to go.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:58 pm
by NewClaret
ClaretTony wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 10:52 pm
Thanks Bfc - frightening how many I've see but all of the players since October 1960 when I first started going although. I did miss the Tommy Cummings wonder goal against Newcastle though, I was seven days old at the time, my dad must have thought I was too young to go.
Overprotective parents in those days
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:03 pm
by IanMcL
Very interesting read. Thanks.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:11 pm
by Royboyclaret
IanMcL wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 11:03 pm
Very interesting read. Thanks.
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No worries., Ian.
Jimmy Mac was always be No.1.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:26 pm
by daveisaclaret
Royboyclaret and whisky, an unstoppable force.
Re: ARTICLE: No 350: Hjalmar Ekdal
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:35 pm
by Royboyclaret
daveisaclaret wrote: โFri Feb 10, 2023 11:26 pm
Royboyclaret and whisky, an unstoppable force.
To be fair, Dave, a famous grouse on the rocks will always be acceptable.
But, Tommy Boyle will always be the No.1 Claret for me, even above the the great Jimmy Mac..
good read that Tony thanks