The chairman was wandering around outside the ground chatting to fans and having his photo taken before the game. Manuel Benson too. Great to see. Well done.

Benson outside tkt office pre match

Alan Pace ?.....A massive breath of fresh air to our club....Exciting Times.

Credit where it’s due, he’s played an absolute blinder with the appointment of VK, and his “favourite underdog” tag is probably bang on course.

I think he has become a genuine Claret as well.

I like the way he watches from the stand holding his wife’s hand throughout the game

Glad we have moved past the disgraceful ‘chancer’ and ‘yank’ comments and he is getting the chance and recognition he deserves.

His asset stripping agenda has back fired though. Rather than strip them he’s overloading us with them!

The struggle clubs have after a long term successful manager leaves has not occurred here
VK coming here was a master stroke as was releasing SD in retrospect
Vincent’s Invincibles march on and on

The critics do seem to have disappeared back under their stones now don’t they? And that criticism was massively premature, like many criticisms on here.

Pace has got a long way to go still.

When we are back in the prem without any debt we will be back to where he took over.

Signs are looking positive though

2 years into his tenure I think it’s fair to say he’s made many more good decisions than bad and had the unenviable task of trying to fix the damage Mike Garlick caused in the last couple of years of his tenure.

I’m still of the opinion though that clubs should not be allowed a takeover in the way Garlick and Pace engineered ours. It’s such high risk and it puts the whole club future in jeopardy if it all goes wrong. The hiring of Kompany and the investment in the team has been absolutely phenomenal, but it’s still worth thinking about where we might had we not pulled that off.

I’ll finish by saying though that Pace clearly knows what he’s doing I do believe he genuinely wants the best for the club. Full credit to him for that.

He's stuck to the path he wanted to take the club down.

Young squad full of talent after not spending massive money on them and a young up and coming manager in charge
Also overhauled other aspects of the club that needed doing because they were in the proverbial stone age

Just the academy issues to sort and I'd say he's done outstandingly well.

There was/is still a degree op scepticism about the deal, but Garlick is as much to blame as ALK.
But at least he seems well on his way to proving the doubters wrong.
Still a way to go, and we’ll only be good when all financial risks are gone

It starts from the top. While it's brilliant what VK has done, it was Pace who got him here. Now if Pace sticks around a while and Kompany moves on in 2-3 seasons we can be confident of replacing him with someone who can carry the journey on.

He’s got a bit to go for me to be fully on board. By the end of his tenure I don’t care if we are in the prem or the championship as long as we are stable and debt free.

The picture of Alan Pace at the rovers game as the camera panned onto him holding, I presume.his wife's hand one side and on the other his daughters, he looked so anxious, he's a claret no doubt.

We should make money with all those advertising boards in the Premier.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:04 am

Pace has got a long way to go still.

When we are back in the prem without any debt we will be back to where he took over.

Signs are looking positive though

Christ on a bike! Do you just have Radiohead on a continuous loop, or is there another reason for your continuous malaise?

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:54 pm

Christ on a bike! Do you just have Radiohead on a continuous loop, or is there another reason for your continuous malaise?

Not sure what I said that you disagree with. I have only stated facts.

The football is amazing . The shenanigans with the accounts at Companies House remains a worry

On the pitch no issues at all it's hunky dory, off the pitch though plenty of questions still remain regarding how we are going to clear our debts as well as remaining competitive in the PL.

I thought clearing the debts was going to be from Premier League money, more investment due to going back up to the Premier League plus profit on player sales.

Aclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:33 pm

Alan Pace ?.....A massive breath of fresh air to our club....Exciting Times.

But he isnt from Burnley
And he hasn't put any money in
And he sacked Dyche
And he will asset strip us
And we will be in League 2 in 2025
And he sacked half the staff on the gravy train...

You're 100% right BTW

HiThere wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:36 pm

I thought clearing the debts was going to be from Premier League money, more investment due to going back up to the Premier League plus profit on player sales.

It is. Fans just fixate on the debt though which is a shame

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:00 pm

Not sure what I said that you disagree with. I have only stated facts.

I’m happy with the club carrying a certain level of debt.

You’re not, your metric is debt free and in the Premier League.

Alan Pace has shown he is an astute chairman, and that he is worth his place.

You are a miserable sod, who is never happy.

The best thing that’s happened to this club in my opinion was Garlick being removed from this club.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:54 pm

It is. Fans just fixate on the debt though which is a shame

I think the debt will be serviceable, and next level of the investment will arrive once we’re promoted.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:04 am

Pace has got a long way to go still.

When we are back in the prem without any debt we will be back to where he took over.

Signs are looking positive though

Your incorrect by a long way out squad is younger and now worth more than it was when he took over also has more potential.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:45 pm

I think the debt will be serviceable, and next level of the investment will arrive once we’re promoted.

Completely agree with this.

Assuming whatever refinancing has gone on has not increased debt, £32m debt when we have a ~£130m income next year (assuming promotion, of course) is nothing to worry about at all. Especially given we no doubt have £50m minimum saleable assets (a LOT more if they perform in the PL), a hugely restructured salary base & the prospect of new investment.

If we get promoted we really do need to stop worrying/talking about it.

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:59 pm

Completely agree with this.

Assuming whatever refinancing has gone on has not increased debt, £32m debt when we have a ~£130m income next year (assuming promotion, of course) is nothing to worry about at all. Especially given we no doubt have £50m minimum saleable assets (a LOT more if they perform in the PL), a hugely restructured salary base & the prospect of new investment.

If we get promoted we really do need to stop worrying/talking about it.

We need a sticky poll about the next thing Newcastle et al are going to chose to moan about…

Why do people still reply to Newcastle? I’ve forgotten more about football than he knows.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 11:04 am

Pace has got a long way to go still.

When we are back in the prem without any debt we will be back to where he took over.

Signs are looking positive though

Even with debt, we’ll be a younger, more exciting side with plenty of saleable assets to allow us to develop younger talent while remaining a viable business in the top divisions. We lost sight of that need under the previous regime.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:42 pm

The best thing that’s happened to this club in my opinion was Garlick being removed from this club.

He hasn’t been removed from the club, he sits on the board.

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:39 pm

He hasn’t been removed from the club, he sits on the board.

You’re right! I hope he has no say on anything, and that he’s made to be the brew boy!

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:42 pm

The best thing that’s happened to this club in my opinion was Garlick being removed from this club.

He hasn’t been removed. He’s still a director.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:45 pm

I think the debt will be serviceable, and next level of the investment will arrive once we’re promoted.

Do you think the rumoured Chinese investment prior to relegation could be a possibility?

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:14 pm

Do you think the rumoured Chinese investment prior to relegation could be a possibility?

I thought the Chinese gov had put a stop to all that and that's why clubs like Inter struggled

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:14 pm

Do you think the rumoured Chinese investment prior to relegation could be a possibility?

Not a clue at the moment.

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:16 pm

I thought the Chinese gov had put a stop to all that and that's why clubs like Inter struggled

You could be right. I am just going off what was rumoured around the time of the Watford home game last season. Have things changed since?

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:20 pm

You could be right. I am just going off what was rumoured around the time of the Watford home game last season. Have things changed since?

I remember the rumours, but I'm aware of how investment from Chinese companies/people has been scaled back.
We're probably better off avoiding them if poss, because it could bite us on the arse

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:21 pm

I remember the rumours, but I'm aware of how investment from Chinese companies/people has been scaled back.
We're probably better off avoiding them if poss, because it could bite us on the arse

I don’t know anything to date, but I’m sure that the investment, when it comes will be American and British.

I suspect anything out of China is not really in the plan at the moment, perhaps with the exception of ‘weather’ bloons. Never mind the mess Chinese investment has already caused at so many clubs. It is a very different world than it was when that was mooted. Tbh I was surprised even then, as things were already cooling rapidly and thought Pace et al. Would have already been shy to such a deal.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:32 pm

I don’t know anything to date, but I’m sure that the investment, when it comes will be American and British.

I’d agree. Plenty of interest from the US in British sport and football generally. I’d imagine culturally Alan would prefer US investment and certainly will have the contacts.

Gut feel is that we haven’t had any yet - or I think we might’ve been more ambitious in January - but I think some will come if promoted.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:58 pm

He hasn’t been removed. He’s still a director.

Of course he is, he hasn’t got his money yet has he?

NewClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:41 pm

I’d agree. Plenty of interest from the US in British sport and football generally. I’d imagine culturally Alan would prefer US investment and certainly will have the contacts.

Gut feel is that we haven’t had any yet - or I think we might’ve been more ambitious in January - but I think some will come if promoted.

I think one thing is becoming increasingly clear is that there is a long term plan. I think there is a lot made public only when all the pieces are in place. January was always going to be a strange one; VK will have players in mind that can step up, but some will not be available until summer, others will be added as some drop out of the reckoning.

I thought the business in January was impressive, as I’ve found Pace’s attitude to: football first, fettling second. The Club Shop Online may be frustrating but I suspect when it gets its ‘turn’ it will return state of the art. I’m increasingly impressed with Alan Pace, starting to really like the chap.

Cooclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 6:42 pm

I’m happy with the club carrying a certain level of debt.

You’re not, your metric is debt free and in the Premier League.

Alan Pace has shown he is an astute chairman, and that he is worth his place.

You are a miserable sod, who is never happy.

The best thing that’s happened to this club in my opinion was Garlick being removed from this club.

That’s your opinion.

My opinion is the club is in a worse spot than when he took over.

If he gets back to that point great. He’s got a long way to go.

If Pace achieves half of what Garlick and co did then he will have succeeded in his role.

Burnley is starting to internationalise not just the squad but both the clubs profile and giving a lot of people internationally a reason to start keeping tabs on Burnley Football Club.I increasingly suspect, by the time VK and Alan Pace hit full pelt; not only will no-one will be thinking of us as ‘little Burnley’ but, more like ‘Green Bay Packers’ than a traditional cotton town club, in many respects.

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:56 pm

That’s your opinion.

My opinion is the club is in a worse spot than when he took over.

If he gets back to that point great. He’s got a long way to go.

If Pace achieves half of what Garlick and co did then he will have succeeded in his role.

Technically yes it's in a worse place because we got relegated.
That was going to happen at some point even if Garlick had stayed in place, because it happens to a lot of PL clubs.

What exactly do you want from Pace for you to be happy with him?
Debt free
Reach Europe

What else?

So far he's overseen a complete overhaul of the squad after making a very astute appointment in Kompany as manager

The transfer policy has the potential to be far superior to what it was under the previous owners.
The social media side has taken off, vastly superior, and is attracting masses of positive attention, which in turn is changing people's views of the club.
Academy - appears to be working hard at getting it back to cat 1.

He had a rough start but him and the team are doing a good job thus far at moving the club forwards.

I know you like to be unhappy about the club, but you've got to be really trying right now to be unhappy with what Pace etc are doing.

We were only heading one way before, I’d argue we are in a better position, if we’d been relegated and relegated again we’d not have lasted long before really struggling

elwaclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:08 pm

Burnley is starting to internationalise not just the squad but both the clubs profile and giving a lot of people internationally a reason to start keeping tabs on Burnley Football Club.I increasingly suspect, by the time VK and Alan Pace hit full pelt; not only will no-one will be thinking of us as ‘little Burnley’ but, more like ‘Green Bay Packers’ than a traditional cotton town club, in many respects.

The Prem is a crowded market place for global support.
In reality we are never going to grow into a bigger club. People might have 'bit' more interest in us if we stay up, but unlikely to be any more than the majority of clubs as they all have bigger fan bases than us.