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Southend United

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:21 am

Face a winding-up order in the High Court today. (BBC)
They paid off a £1.4 million tax bill yesterday, so they hope that'll give them a bit of breathing space.

Hope they avoid liquidation, not a bad little club.

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:26 am

It's a club that's anything but 'not a bad little club' now with fans at war with the owner Ron Martin. There has been real concern that the club could go under.

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Re: Southend United

Post by tiger76 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:29 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:21 am
Face a winding-up order in the High Court today. (BBC)
They paid off a £1.4 million tax bill yesterday, so they hope that'll give them a bit of breathing space.

Hope they avoid liquidation, not a bad little club.
Another club who have rapidly fallen down the leagues, it wasn't that long ago they were pushing for promotion to the Championship.

Sadly not the first time they've encountered financial issues in recent years, hope they can come out the other side and survive.

I do wonder how many other lower league clubs will face similar difficulties.

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Re: Southend United

Post by MDWat » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:37 am

They actually made it to the Championship for one season.

Less said about our results against them that season.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Pickles » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:40 am

Remember Freddy Eastwood being lethal for a period around the time they made it to the Championship.

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:54 am

Pickles wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:40 am
Remember Freddy Eastwood being lethal for a period around the time they made it to the Championship.
He left at the end of that Championship season and played for Wolves and Coventry with little success at all, went back to Southend and did nothing. But for a while he was prolific for them as they climbed the leagues.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:00 am

i remember going to Roots Hall and I think we were 3-0 down after about 25 mins

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:02 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:00 am
i remember going to Roots Hall and I think we were 3-0 down after about 25 mins
We were 2-0 down in the first few minutes in 1995 and did go 3-0 down in the second half before pulling one back.

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Re: Southend United

Post by basil6345789 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:08 am

Bobby Moore managed them for a short time

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Re: Southend United

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:08 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:02 am
We were 2-0 down in the first few minutes in 1995 and did go 3-0 down in the second half before pulling one back.
that would be it, the date fits. Dreadful performance !

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:10 am

basil6345789 wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:08 am
Bobby Moore managed them for a short time
He did - was manager there when we went in the John Bond season. It was when the dodgy Anton Johnson owned the club.
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Re: Southend United

Post by NewForestClaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:10 am

I lived in Southend when they were in the Championship. They were doing better than we were for sure. The story I heard was that Dave Webb went to see Ron Martin, who was and still is the chairman. He asked for funds to get the team over the line into the PL and was refused on the grounds that they couldn't afford to be in the PL, it would bankrupt them! Since then there have been on/off moves to build a new ground on the edge of the town as the plot they sit on is central and worth a few bob. Recently this has been scaled back, so it's all up in the air again. I have a soft spot for the club, they have some great supporters who have been treated badly for far too long. My son saw his first Burnley game there, needless to say we lost which was a regular event when we met in the lower leagues.

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:10 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:08 am
that would be it, the date fits. Dreadful performance !
Jimmy Mullen gave Chris Brass a marking role on Ronnie Whelan and Whelan destroyed us.

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:11 am

NewForestClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:10 am
they have some great supporters who have been treated badly for far too long.
Totally agree with that

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Re: Southend United

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:16 am

I remember Andy Payton planting one past Neville Southall when NS was on loan to Southend, in the late Eighties. Think we won 1-0.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Culmclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:17 am

Well remember a wonderful night there in May 82 when we clinched promotion. As now, we then had two full backs who scored regularly and they both scored that night. A few weeks before we had lost 3-5 at home to them in a truly bizarre game. 2-2 at half time and they were down to ten men but it all went Pete Tong in the 15 minutes after half time. Their stand out player at the time was Garry Nelson.

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:21 am

Culmclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:17 am
Well remember a wonderful night there in May 82 when we clinched promotion. As now, we then had two full backs who scored regularly and they both scored that night. A few weeks before we had lost 3-5 at home to them in a truly bizarre game. 2-2 at half time and they were down to ten men but it all went Pete Tong in the 15 minutes after half time. Their stand out player at the time was Garry Nelson.
Brilliant night and our first ever visit to Southend. Dave Smith, ex-Claret, who passed away last year, was their manager at the time.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Stan Tastic » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:23 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:16 am
I remember Andy Payton planting one past Neville Southall when NS was on loan to Southend, in the late Eighties. Think we won 1-0.
I think you've got the wrong decade.
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Re: Southend United

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:24 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:16 am
I remember Andy Payton planting one past Neville Southall when NS was on loan to Southend, in the late Eighties. Think we won 1-0.
Should have said late Nineties.

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Re: Southend United

Post by sjb » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:27 am

I remember my 2nd visit to Roots Hall (after the 4-1 victory in May 82) was on a freezing cold Friday night in January 1986. I had saveloy & chips from a chippy near the ground and we won 3-2. I think Alan Taylor scored and Richard Holden possibly made 1 of his rare 1st team appearances.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Culmclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:43 am

The 2-2 in 84 when Bobby Moore was manager was a typical away performance under Bond. We should have strolled it especially after taking the lead yet had to rely on a last minute Billy Hamilton goal to salvage a point

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Re: Southend United

Post by Herts Clarets » Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:58 pm

sjb wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:27 am
I remember my 2nd visit to Roots Hall (after the 4-1 victory in May 82) was on a freezing cold Friday night in January 1986. I had saveloy & chips from a chippy near the ground and we won 3-2. I think Alan Taylor scored and Richard Holden possibly made 1 of his rare 1st team appearances.
That was my first visit to Roots Hall, I think on a Box Car/CT chara. Got home early hours and had to work at Oddies bakery the following morning so no sleep that night. The Saturday evening i went to a "do" at the Sparrow Hawk in Burnley for stevie2112....

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:56 pm

sjb wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:27 am
I remember my 2nd visit to Roots Hall (after the 4-1 victory in May 82) was on a freezing cold Friday night in January 1986. I had saveloy & chips from a chippy near the ground and we won 3-2. I think Alan Taylor scored and Richard Holden possibly made 1 of his rare 1st team appearances.
Richard Holden’s only appearance for us was at Orient at the end of the season when he came on as a sub. I think Andy Kilner made his first start for us that night.

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:58 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 12:58 pm
That was my first visit to Roots Hall, I think on a Box Car/CT chara. Got home early hours and had to work at Oddies bakery the following morning so no sleep that night. The Saturday evening i went to a "do" at the Sparrow Hawk in Burnley for stevie2112....
Still gets mentions does Box Car. Hard to believe it’s now fifteen and a half years since he passed away.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Silkyskills1 » Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:31 pm

Culmclaret wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:17 am
Well remember a wonderful night there in May 82 when we clinched promotion. As now, we then had two full backs who scored regularly and they both scored that night. A few weeks before we had lost 3-5 at home to them in a truly bizarre game. 2-2 at half time and they were down to ten men but it all went Pete Tong in the 15 minutes after half time. Their stand out player at the time was Garry Nelson.
Derek Spence, former Bury and NI striker was centre forward that night and probably had the greatest game of his life. He was untouchable in the second half. I'd seen him play many times for Bury but not like that.

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Re: Southend United

Post by sjb » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 1:56 pm
Richard Holden’s only appearance for us was at Orient at the end of the season when he came on as a sub. I think Andy Kilner made his first start for us that night.
That was him - Kilner. Played well on the left wing.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Culmclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:45 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 4:31 pm
Derek Spence, former Bury and NI striker was centre forward that night and probably had the greatest game of his life. He was untouchable in the second half. I'd seen him play many times for Bury but not like that.
Yep. Spence was a blond bombshell that night. He gave poor David Holt a torrid time

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Re: Southend United

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:54 pm

Judge dismissed the winding up application against SU
after hearing that the tax bill had been paid.

The court also heard that the club had "new money as working capital." (BBC)

So they live to fight another day...till next time.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Fretters » Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:03 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:02 am
We were 2-0 down in the first few minutes in 1995 and did go 3-0 down in the second half before pulling one back.
Was it Southend we beat 5-1 at home that season when they borrowed our unlucky away kit? The jade and black one.

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Re: Southend United

Post by kentonclaret » Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:41 pm

On the pitch Southend have a crucial “6 pointer” to try and secure a place in the playoffs versus Barnet on Friday night.

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Re: Southend United

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:35 pm

Fretters wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:03 pm
Was it Southend we beat 5-1 at home that season when they borrowed our unlucky away kit? The jade and black one.
It was

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Re: Southend United

Post by Pearcey » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:04 pm

One of my worst nights of football was at Roots Hall. Think we conceded a late goal and lost 1-0. It was under Cotterill I believe. I actually left the game angry!

Really hope they survive.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:26 pm

Were they the team that came to Turf Moor and the ref insisted that they changed their strip? They didn't have one, so we lent them out green and black shirts. I think we then went on to beat them pretty heavily.

Be sad if they do get wound up.

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Re: Southend United

Post by Papabendi » Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:56 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:04 pm
One of my worst nights of football was at Roots Hall. Think we conceded a late goal and lost 1-0. It was under Cotterill I believe. I actually left the game angry!

Really hope they survive.
I was there for that one and it was during Cotterill's awful run of games without a win. A bad pass back to the keeper cost us. There was a real risk after that game that we would go down thankfully it didn't cost us
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