He's going grey already with the job !

NRC wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:13 pm

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Hdnqgk4J_M4

You didn’t miss anything he was waffling as usual .

It's odd but when I hear his interviews now, they sound so banal and almost like they're straight off a management consultancy course - the fine margins, the details, the moments, the feel of the game etc. I never, ever, ever, not once ever felt irritated by it when he was our gaffer. But now I hear it and I just think 'what ARE you on about???'

I wish him all the very best and don't doubt he could very well mastermind their survival but blimey - Winston Churchill he is not when it comes to public rabble-rousing!

He is 10 times the manager Kompany will ever be

He'll go down as the greatest manager in Burnley's history.

LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:11 pm

He'll go down as the greatest manager in Burnley's history.

He'll go down....you got that bit right.

LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:11 pm

He is 10 times the manager Kompany will ever be

He isn’t though is he? Good manager yes, great for us, but in 10 years time there will only be one manager with trophies.

As much as I love SD and what he did for us, I had very much got tired of listening to him(and I think the players had, last season). I’m glad I don’t have to listen to him now.
That said, I do hope he keeps Everton up this term, and hope he gets a chance to build them back up again next season.

It's weird how ill thought off Dyche is on here.

I must be on the wrong forum.

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:16 pm

He isn’t though is he? Good manager yes, great for us, but in 10 years time there will only be one manager with trophies.

Comparing Dyche and Kompany is like comparing Harrods with Aldi.

History will prove I'm right on this one. Money in the championship dictates we were always going to bounce back up. UK football is always financially slanted and loaded for the PL falling after subsequent top flight seasons.

I fear Vin will be gone by Feb 2024 and the revisionist theories will begin as to what SD brought to the club and what we are and will miss going forward.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm

It's weird how ill thought off Dyche is on here.

I must be on the wrong forum.

100% this. A personal who talks sense.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm

It's weird how ill thought off Dyche is on here.

I must be on the wrong forum.

Genuinely, I think the world of him and thank him for all he did for our club. My 12-year old son only ever knew him as gaffer really and cried when he left. The point I am making is about his chat - I have no doubt what he said behind the dressing room door was far more inspiring but I just never realised how dull his interviews were.

LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:26 pm

Money in the championship dictates we were always going to bounce back up. UK football is always financially slanted and loaded for the PL falling after subsequent top flight seasons.

This is so wrong.

There was nothing to suggest that we'd be okay this season, money or no money.

The money has allowed us a bit of leeway but what Vincent has done regarding recruitment is incredible.

This season has not been about money.

I'm not sure how many people on here saw Burnley in the old 4th division. I, unfortunately, did.

The problem with SD was the success he brought to some extent spoilt Burnley fans. They took the success he single-handedly attained for granted by the end.he over-achieved.

No way VK attains the same success next season in the PL.

As I say when the dust settles on this era of BFC the outstanding, era-defining, job SD did for us will finally come into full focus.

I surprised myself by being so underwhelmed when hearing one of Dyche’s recent interviews. It felt as though I’d stepped back in time. Had it not been for the Everton specific comments, it could quite easily have been an old interview from seasons past.

Quite what else I was expecting, I don’t know. He’s not going to change overnight and it was hard to disagree with what he was saying, it just seemed very cliche, having heard it all before on so many occasions.

If I thought that, it wouldn’t surprise me if the players themselves had got bored of it, which might have been one of the reasons that things became stale (plenty other factors at play, I know).

It still seems strange seeing him managing another club. I hope he does a great job and gets to prove his worth with a bit of cash to spend, he has earned the opportunity.

Even if he’s not going to change the record, it might do him a favour to at least play the b side from time to time.

LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:40 pm

I'm not sure how many people on here saw Burnley in the old 4th division. I, unfortunately, did.

The problem with SD was the success he brought to some extent spoilt Burnley fans. They took the success he single-handedly attained for granted by the end.he over-achieved.

No way VK attains the same success next season in the PL.

As I say when the dust settles on this era of BFC the outstanding, era-defining, job SD did for us will finally come into full focus.

We came straight back down in SD's first season in the Premier League

LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:40 pm

I'm not sure how many people on here saw Burnley in the old 4th division. I, unfortunately, did.

The problem with SD was the success he brought to some extent spoilt Burnley fans. They took the success he single-handedly attained for granted by the end.he over-achieved.

No way VK attains the same success next season in the PL.

As I say when the dust settles on this era of BFC the outstanding, era-defining, job SD did for us will finally come into full focus.

What an absolute load of waffle. I dont think you will find many if any Burnley fans that don't appreciate and recognise what Dyche did for us, he was amazing. But like Wenger at Arsenal, Dyche stayed too long, it became stale, this 'era' of football in general will not see many managers staying longer than 4 or 5 years at clubs, that is just how it is.

Kompany has started again at the club, so many leaving, so many arriving, and throw in exciting edge of your seat type football and yes it does feed a little into the short term ism of football, but also it is growing our fan base, becoming more of a global outfit, people all over the world are going to start following us, becoming interested in what is happening at our club.

Dyche was a one off, but that doesn't mean to say that another manager can't replicate what he did. I am sure if Kompany kept us up with the same points total as Dyche did, 99% of our fans would rather achieve that target with a Kompany team than a Dyche team

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:54 pm

We came straight back down in SD's first season in the Premier League

Didn’t Dyche prioritise the training facilities over a better opportunity at surviving his first season in the Premier League?

dyche was here a long time, phenomenal achievements . he was our best manager.
the club he managed on a shoestring budget succeeded. and against all the odds. all the criticism about his style is ridiculous. he had to cut his cloth according to the restrictions financially. with little funding he funding , he fought off all the colossal money giants. if he had similar backing , he too would have thrived. VK is a different manager, nobody in football could have predicted the success the team has had in next to no time comparatively. that said, he is unlikely to be here for the long haul. so basically a stepping stone for him.

To back up my admiration for the man, Dyche referred to himself as a 'Custodian of Burnley FC' in his very early days and what he also produced off the pitch with the training facilities was testament to that. He undoubtedly conducted himself as precisely that and left our club in a far far far better position than it was when he arrived.

It's his war-cry that is uninspiring having heard it in a different context, but then the Everton fans might lap that up compared to what they heard from Lampard, Benitez, Ancelotti et al, I don't know?

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LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:26 pm

Comparing Dyche and Kompany is like comparing Harrods with Aldi.

History will prove I'm right on this one. Money in the championship dictates we were always going to bounce back up. UK football is always financially slanted and loaded for the PL falling after subsequent top flight seasons.

I fear Vin will be gone by Feb 2024 and the revisionist theories will begin as to what SD brought to the club and what we are and will miss going forward.

We will revisit this then next year. Btw, your ‘4th division’ comments are exactly the type of mentality we are rightly trying to get away from. We are growing finally with a board who realise a world exists outside Burnley. History will prove you’re talking nonsense just as history proved that the pace bashers were talking nonsense too.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:59 pm

Didn’t Dyche prioritise the training facilities over a better opportunity at surviving his first season in the Premier League?

Why would a manager make a relegation possibility on his CV more likely to improve the training facilities at a club he has no real connection to?

LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:26 pm

Comparing Dyche and Kompany is like comparing Harrods with Aldi.

History will prove I'm right on this one. Money in the championship dictates we were always going to bounce back up. UK football is always financially slanted and loaded for the PL falling after subsequent top flight seasons.

I fear Vin will be gone by Feb 2024 and the revisionist theories will begin as to what SD brought to the club and what we are and will miss going forward.

I’ve read some unadulterated bilge on this forum in the past, but this is right up there.

Two great managers for our football club. Comparisons are futile. Fortunate to have had one of these fellows in charge never mind both of them. Does anyone consider what fly by night might have 'rocked up' and bombed?

Two great managers. I don’t understand some of the stick Dyche gets. It was time for a change but that is what happens with almost every manager eventually. Their message gets stale and you need a new voice. I’m grateful and I’m sure the club is grateful for his service.

The biggest quality of Dyche is imo if you give him 100 m he spends it like it’s his,He won’t put the club in potentially financial difficulty sponging it on players that ain’t up to it are gambling unless it’s certain. I mean kompany as gambled on all these foreigners really it’s like a stroke of genius.There all nobody’s with potential.quite easily we could of gone the other way.I just hope he continues the recruitment policy and taking lower risks.we don’t need a witsel etc on 100k a week this squad would stay up easily I think stick with what your doing.

One man out of VK and SD will go in and manage an elite level club and win many many trophies…


It’s not SD.

This season under Kompany is better than any season under Dyche.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm

It's weird how ill thought off Dyche is on here.

I must be on the wrong forum.

It’s not weird Stan it’s just this board.Set of whoppers.

The pre and post match interviews are fairly benial stuff anyway ...

VK included will probably have been coached how to deal with the media

In my opinion, here is no need to listen to Sean anymore save he is talking about his time at Burnley...

He deserves some respect when he comes to the the Turf next year a good 30 seconds applause and then a bigger cheer for the new manager ...

Why compare the two? Both can be enjoyed in different ways...

Both are good football managers ...

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:16 pm

He isn’t though is he? Good manager yes, great for us, but in 10 years time there will only be one manager with trophies.

Well I reckon in about six weeks they’ll both have the same one.

Although to be fair to make it plural I’ll think Dyche will need to win the same one again to be fair after reading the post properly.

I imagine that after the dust has settled for a few years, that dyche to us will be like pulis is now are to Stoke and curbishley is to Charlton. Both highly regarded and, bearing in mind where they are now, reminiscent of good times, but we're whinged about before they departed by some more than others.

So far, VK has wengerised our squad, using Belgium based players rather than French based players. The scale is a lot lower, but next year I'd settle for 15th/16th. Finish in the top half and We'd lose him to a big club sooner, and it would be better to re-solidify in the Premier league if we could. I'd settle for top 6, mind!

Shaggy wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:33 am

One man out of VK and SD will go in and manage an elite level club and win many many trophies…


It’s not SD.

This season under Kompany is better than any season under Dyche.

Indeed. European competitions are so easy to get into and aren't as difficult to achieve as playing in the Championship.

Plenty of people on here used to say how dull and cringeworthy Dyche’s press interactions were when he was our manager. They generally got rounded upon and some people genuinely thought he was actually funny which baffled me even more.

There is no way that VK will be with us as long as Sean Dyche was, it just doesn’t really happen especially at the elite level. VK will be highly sought after where as Dyche, for whatever reason, wasn’t.

I do think though, if VK plays his cards right, his next job could be the City job. No need for an extra n between gig, straight into the big one.

It's okay to be positive and actually quite normal to be positive about both Dyche and Kompany.

Swizzlestick wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:37 am

Why would a manager make a relegation possibility on his CV more likely to improve the training facilities at a club he has no real connection to?

He wanted to build every aspect of the club, including the training facilities, he was thinking ahead.
You can't attract players of a decent calibre if you're expecting them to get changed at TM, then drive over to Gawthorpe etc.
It just doesn't work like that these days.

Dyche knew that something had to be done and he wanted the better training ground, thankfully.

Cheshireclaret wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:55 pm

It's odd but when I hear his interviews now, they sound so banal and almost like they're straight off a management consultancy course - the fine margins, the details, the moments, the feel of the game etc. I never, ever, ever, not once ever felt irritated by it when he was our gaffer. But now I hear it and I just think 'what ARE you on about???'

I wish him all the very best and don't doubt he could very well mastermind their survival but blimey - Winston Churchill he is not when it comes to public rabble-rousing!

Been the same for years. I gave up listening by the end, too much like David Brent.

If he's so boring then why are people still listening to him and posting about it. Can we not just move on and enjoy our clubs success. What VK has achieved doesn't diminish what SD achieved in his time here. He was a hero to many on here for several years, that's how I choose to remember him and no matter what he does now he's gone will not change the respect I have for him.

He was absolutely great for us but it was coming to an end that season

He's been unfairly overlooked for jobs when he was performing miracles with us, and he's going to have to perform a hell of a job to keep Everton up

I for one loved what Sean did for our club in the ten years he was manager but in is last two years things had gone a bit stale , rumours of players not getting on with is coaching staff and talking to Pace about this , so for me I thank Sean for what he did but a change was required and maybe if he had gone a bit earlier we might have stayed up but we will never know . And yes Vinny as a long way to go to emulate what Sean did but only time will, but for the moment we are playing the best football we have seen for a long time and long may it continue and yes the true test will come next season in the premiership but for the moment let's enjoy what Vinny and staff and players are doing and I hope Everton stop up and we can give Sean a round of applause for what he did for our club. UTC

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm

It's weird how ill thought off Dyche is on here.

I must be on the wrong forum.

What you need to remember is that this forum is not a true representation of proper Burnley fans. The folks that use this message board are bored old men with nothing better to do in their lives than to argue with people they don't know and to criticise things just to get a reaction.

LONDONCLARET23 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:26 pm

Comparing Dyche and Kompany is like comparing Harrods with Aldi.

History will prove I'm right on this one. Money in the championship dictates we were always going to bounce back up. UK football is always financially slanted and loaded for the PL falling after subsequent top flight seasons.

I fear Vin will be gone by Feb 2024 and the revisionist theories will begin as to what SD brought to the club and what we are and will miss going forward.

I will take this bet…

Gp8419 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:00 am

The biggest quality of Dyche is imo if you give him 100 m he spends it like it’s his,He won’t put the club in potentially financial difficulty sponging it on players that ain’t up to it are gambling unless it’s certain. I mean kompany as gambled on all these foreigners really it’s like a stroke of genius.There all nobody’s with potential.quite easily we could of gone the other way.I just hope he continues the recruitment policy and taking lower risks.we don’t need a witsel etc on 100k a week this squad would stay up easily I think stick with what your doing.

It seems you were drunk when you wrote this.

‘…these foreigners…’

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:48 am

What you need to remember is that this forum is not a true representation of proper Burnley fans. The folks that use this message board are bored old men with nothing better to do in their lives than to argue with people they don't know and to criticise things just to get a reaction.

I think you’re not too far off with this point. I’ve said it before, the board is becoming a negative echo chamber for people of a certain age, who has a certain mindset of a bygone era.

Anyone younger than say 25, that has a different opinion gets jumped on.

(You can infer age via references and grammar.)

It was almost so at one point, if you didn’t attend the orient game you weren’t a valid BFC fan. A local board for local people…

pushpinpussy wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:48 am

What you need to remember is that this forum is not a true representation of proper Burnley fans. The folks that use this message board are bored old men with nothing better to do in their lives than to argue with people they don't know and to criticise things just to get a reaction.

Not sure which is more offensive these days, being called old or a man Don't worry son one day you'll be as old as the rest of us

taio wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 04, 2023 8:09 am

It's okay to be positive and actually quite normal to be positive about both Dyche and Kompany.

Exactly! it doesn't have to be either or, both were great for us (hopefully Kompany will continue to be) and both will live long in the memories of BFC fans.

We should just be thankful that we've been privileged to have enjoyed 2 really good managers in the past decade, many clubs will be envious of our success and they should be.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:59 pm

Didn’t Dyche prioritise the training facilities over a better opportunity at surviving his first season in the Premier League?

It was a club decision and Dyche correctly went along with it.

I constantly here that it was Dyche that chose to build the training ground. He didn't, it was the club.

I'd rather listen to SD than Alex Scott.