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9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:27 am
by Burnleyareback2
Reminds me of the commentary on the video when we won the 4th division and the game at York.
Just wish I could recall those words exactly- anyone got a better memory.
That was the 2nd most important Burnley game for me..
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:50 am
by 2 Bee Holed
Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:27 am
Reminds me of the commentary on the video when we won the 4th division and the game at York.
Just wish I could recall those words exactly- anyone got a better memory.
That was the 2nd most important Burnley game for me..
Go on, I'll bite.
Why 4 wins? What does that achieve?
Isn't it 3 wins for promotion? 5 to be champions?
Assuming the wins are not against either side.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:56 am
by Burnleyareback2
2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:50 am
Go on, I'll bite.
Why 4 wins? What does that achieve?
Isn't it 3 wins for promotion? 5 to be champions?
Assuming the wins are not against either side.
Sorry not trying to get bites, genuine question- my maths (could be wrong) thought we needed 4.
Regardless - trying to remember the commentary ahead of York - without getting the vhs out of the loft!
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:08 am
by 2 Bee Holed
Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:56 am
Sorry not trying to get bites, genuine question- my maths (could be wrong) thought we needed 4.
Regardless - trying to remember the commentary ahead of York - without getting the vhs out of the loft!
I think the clip you are thinking of was filmed in the CFS prior to the Cardiff game.
The kids were asked to shout
"5 games left, 7 points needed, for the championship. Yeaaah".
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:13 am
by 2 Bee Holed
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https://youtu.be/_ENY_b-a1Vo]
Is this the clip? Not sure how to post it.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:16 am
by Burnleyareback2
That’s the one! Good work pal!!!!
Wonder if it can be recreated with the same people?!
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:32 am
by wilks_bfc
8 more points and Middlesbrough can’t catch us even if they win every game
If Sheff Utd win every game we need 16 more to to be champions
Basically 3 more wins and we’re up, 5 and we’re guaranteed champions (if one of those 5 is against SU)
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:37 am
by Rick_Muller
Win our next two league games and we are mathematically up
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:42 am
by Rick_Muller
Of course I forgot Luton… easily done, forgettable place really

Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:42 am
by wilks_bfc
Rick_Muller wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:37 am
Win our next two league games and we are mathematically up
Correct. I had Boro game as the third game instead of the second
Edit: I’d also forgotten Luton could catch us

Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:51 am
by RammyClaret61
Luton & Middlesbrough still have to play each other, that’s in our favour. But that’s not till late April. Luton also have to play B4stards.
Win the next 2, we are up.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:14 am
by Dark Cloud
Yes, by my reckoning it's win the next 2 and we're certain to go up and that's because the second of those games is against Boro. If Boro lose both their games before they play us at The Riverside, a win against Sunderland would be enough for us, but we'd be relying on GD. I may be wrong here however.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:32 am
by Rick_Muller
Dark Cloud wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:14 am
Yes, by my reckoning it's win the next 2 and we're certain to go up and that's because the second of those games is against Boro. If Boro lose both their games before they play us at The Riverside, a win against Sunderland would be enough for us, but we'd be relying on GD. I may be wrong here however.
You have also discounted Luton
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:40 am
by Dark Cloud
Rick_Muller wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:32 am
You have also discounted Luton
Yes, it seems everyone is forgetting about them including me. They could still get to 90 points by winning all 9 games by my reckoning, so nothing a couple of scratchy draws won't cure.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:45 am
by TheOriginalLongsider
So, if we win 4 more games we are up regardless of any other results but if we win the next two we are promoted anyway. If Boro lose their next two games and we beat Sunderland then we would be promoted after just one more win.
I think we will get it at Boro.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:57 am
by martin_p
wilks_bfc wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 7:32 am
If Sheff Utd win every game we need 16 more to to be champions
15 points I think. Sheffield Utd can get 97 points at most and we’re on 83. Five wins, but only four if one is against Sheffield Utd.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:58 am
by martin_p
TheOriginalLongsider wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:45 am
So, if we win 4 more games we are up regardless of any other results but if we win the next two we are promoted anyway. If Boro lose their next two games and we beat Sunderland then we would be promoted after just one more win.
I think we will get it at Boro.
We’re only promoted if we win the next two if Luton drop points as well.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:15 am
by tiger76
Nobody is going to come remotely close to catching us just enjoy the final few weeks of an amazing season.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:32 am
by Rick_Muller
tiger76 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:15 am
Nobody is going to come remotely close to catching us just enjoy the final few weeks of an amazing season.
good innit

Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:43 am
by Raconteur
Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:16 am
That’s the one! Good work pal!!!!
Wonder if it can be recreated with the same people?!
I am one of them
The lad who is sat with Rob McCaffrey is Neil Fraser
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:45 am
by Cirrus_Minor
I suspect we are up already
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:37 am
by mdd2
Second place will have more than 83points by the end of the next 9 games
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:39 am
by MACCA
Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:16 am
That’s the one! Good work pal!!!!
Wonder if it can be recreated with the same people?!
Nah, Rumble is a Leeds fan now...
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:39 am
by Vincent'sCap
Promoted weeks ago,relax and enjoy what's left of this season.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:44 am
by HarrysClarets11
Burnley current 83pts
Sheffield utd max points 97
Boro max points. 91
Luton. “. “. 90
Blackburn “. “. 88
Millwall. “. “. 87
Norwich. “. “. 83
So it’s win 3 games for guaranteed promotion
And win 5 games for the championship
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:26 pm
by Woodleyclaret
Let's go for 9 wins it would set an unbeatable record for the Championship .
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:15 pm
by Clarets4me
2 Bee Holed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:08 am
I think the clip you are thinking of was filmed in the CFS prior to the Cardiff game.
The kids were asked to shout
"5 games left, 7 points needed, for the championship. Yeaaah".
If that could be re-enacted, that would be great .... especially the bit where we take the lead after 14.5 seconds ( Robbie Painter ) !!
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:19 pm
by martin_p
Clarets4me wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:15 pm
If that could be re-enacted, that would be great .... especially the bit where we take the lead after 14.5 seconds ( Robbie Painter ) !!
Think Robbie Painter will be in his early 50s now, I’m not sure he’ll even get from the halfway line to goal in 14.5 seconds.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:30 pm
by jlup1980
Lets be honest, we're already up. I honestly think we'd still be ok if we lost every remaining game (not a theory I'd like to test out though!!).
If Boro and Luton continue at the average points per game they've had this season to date (1.73 Boro and 1.70 for Luton) then they'll end up on 80 and 78 points respectively. Even if they manage to pull in 2 points a game they'll only hit 82 and 81. It's highly unlikely either will achieve that given their run ins (Boro still have us, Luton, Norwich and Coventry. Luton still have Watford, Millwall, Boro and Rovers).
Promotion and the title are sewn up. It's simply a case of how many points we end up with. The rest are of no interest now, we're too far in front.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:43 pm
by DCWat
Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:26 pm
Let's go for 9 wins it would set an unbeatable record for the Championship .
Record goals and record points should be the target. It would take some doing but with a fair wind and a bit of luck, it’s definitely not beyond this team.
For the goals, we’d need to give a couple of teams the sort of hiding that we all know we could, if we really went for it.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:59 pm
by bfcmik
If we win our next 3 then we are promoted on Good Friday and Champions on Easter Monday - whatever anyone else, including Luton, does!
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:03 pm
by NRC
jlup1980 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:30 pm
Lets be honest, we're already up. I honestly think we'd still be ok if we lost every remaining game (not a theory I'd like to test out though!!).
this is probably correct, but the bulk of the off-field fun is in speculating when it's a mathematical certainty rather than a probability. It's a bit of an anti-climax to have the benefit of hindsight and declare "we actually won promotion when we played WIgan/Hull/Sunderland"
Personally, I think we got promoted last night, but time will tell
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:03 pm
by Iloveyoubrady
Are we nearly 23 undefeated yet
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:07 pm
by gawthorpe_view
bfcmik wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:59 pm
If we win our next 3 then we are promoted on Good Friday and Champions on Easter Monday - whatever anyone else, including Luton, does!
I quite like the sound of that!
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:26 pm
by dibraidio
DCWat wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:43 pm
Record goals and record points should be the target. It would take some doing but with a fair wind and a bit of luck, it’s definitely not beyond this team.
For the goals, we’d need to give a couple of teams the sort of hiding that we all know we could, if we really went for it.
Both of those targets would be a real challenge. We need to inflict one or two absolute hammerings to get near the goals target. We're going to need 3 goals per game to get to 100 which is a lot more than our average so far.
I'd be happy with 23 or more unbeaten or 100+ points. You've got to have something to play for, if we are promoted in 3 games time we need something to challenge the team for the last 6 games.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:33 pm
by Sean Dyche's Watch
bfcmik wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:59 pm
If we win our next 3 then we are promoted on Good Friday and Champions on Easter Monday - whatever anyone else, including Luton, does!
It's Vincent Kompany's birthday on Easter Monday. Imagine a rendition of 'happy birthday' on the Turf!
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:37 pm
by HiThere
bfcmik wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:59 pm
If we win our next 3 then we are promoted on Good Friday and Champions on Easter Monday - whatever anyone else, including Luton, does!
So confirm promotion vs Boro and be confirmed as champions at home to Sheffield?
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:42 pm
by aggi
bfcmik wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:59 pm
If we win our next 3 then we are promoted on Good Friday and Champions on Easter Monday - whatever anyone else, including Luton, does!
That's not right I don't think. Win our next 3 and we'll be on 92. If Sheff Utd win all their games apart from against us they'd be on 94.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:48 pm
by alwaysaclaret
gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:07 pm
I quite like the sound of that!
Luton still have to play boro, Watford, Millwall and b4stards, can't imagine they'll be taking maximum points from these 4, so I would say win next 2 and we're up. Although it may not be mathematically at that point.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:03 pm
by Goddy
Raconteur wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:43 am
I am one of them
The lad who is sat with Rob McCaffrey is Neil Fraser
...and I went to university with Rob McCaffrey. I wasn't impressed then, either, if truth be known......

Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:04 pm
by 2 Bee Holed
martin_p wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:57 am
15 points I think. Sheffield Utd can get 97 points at most and we’re on 83. Five wins, but only four if one is against Sheffield Utd.
Finally, somebody agrees with me at the top of this thread.
Why is this so difficult for us to work out?.

Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:12 pm
by tiger76
Sean Dyche's Watch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:33 pm
It's Vincent Kompany's birthday on Easter Monday. Imagine a rendition of 'happy birthday' on the Turf!
Wow! I never realised that was his birthday, be a fitting day to clinch promotion wouldn't it.

Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:11 pm
by Dark Cloud
I may be proved wrong because they're clearly a more than decent outfit, but Luton's next 2 are pretty tough. I can see them dropping some points tbh and maybe moving out of the equation should we get a couple more wins.
Re: 9 games left, 4 wins needed
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:38 pm
by ClaretTony
Burnleyareback2 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:16 am
That’s the one! Good work pal!!!!
Wonder if it can be recreated with the same people?!
I know one of them on that 1992 clip