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Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:15 am
by Cleveleys_claret
So, what activity do we think will occur in the summer. Personally think a few will be loaned out, in case of a return the following year and as long as clubs foot the wages of players, dont think we will have brought in players to cut our losses so quickly on them.
So here goes
SQUAD
GK: Muric, Franchi NEW SIGNING
RB: Roberts, NEW SIGNING
LB: Maatsen (fingers crossed) NEW SIGNING
CB: Dakhil, Beyer, Ekdal NEW SIGNING
CM: Cork, Cullen, Brownhill, NEW SIGNING
ATT MID: Zaroury, Benson, Gudmundson, Churlinov, Vitinho NEW SIGNING
ATT: Tella (fingers crossed), Foster, Obafemi NEW SIGNING Barnes
Then I think the likes of Twine, Egan Riley, Bastien, McNally will be loaned out to championship clubs with the hope of them making an impact and putting in the clause that they play so many games.
Then offload Jay Rod, Taylor, Peacock Farrell
In my opinion I can foresee another busy summer, including the likes of Tella, Beyer, Obafemi, Maatsen signing I can see us signing 10 to 12 players again, probably try to get in on loan 2 or 3 players with that, hopefully one being Harwood Bellis
(Disclaimer: I may have forgot a player or two, we have so many these days)
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:17 am
by 4midable
Loans will sign PERM
THB maybe another season loan
Get shut of the fringe players and back ups
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:17 am
by Dougall
Churlinov playing on BOTH wings….that’ll fox ‘em!
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:18 am
by Cleveleys_claret
Dougall wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:17 am
Churlinov playing on BOTH wings….that’ll fox ‘em!
Fixed that ha ha, noticed when re reading it
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:21 am
by andyh
I can see BPF, Twine and Taylor all being in the squad and Vitinho being used as RB cover which brings the incoming list right down. It you have assumed us turning 3 loans into players so I think it is realistic.
I think CM is the key area to improve.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:30 am
by northernpowerhouse
We've been linked to Bristol City's Alex Scott in recent days so I guess we're already looking at CMs.
https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/foot ... nd-4064098
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:42 am
by jedi_master
Centre Mid, Striker, Winger
That's on top of retaining (by hook or crook) Tella, Beyer and Maatsen
Decisions to be made on quite a few squad players too.
McNally looks really good for Coventry and this shows what a run of games from loans can do - so I would be maybe considering the same for Twine and Churlinov for six months to see how they fare? They are both young lads who have had injury set backs and guaranteed game time will tell us a lot about their chances long term with us are my thoughts?
In terms of targets I do hope we sign Gyokeres - impresses me more and more everytime I see him and was excellent against us at the Turf.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:52 am
by RVclaret
Outgoings
Barnes - can't have Jay and him
BPF - deserves first team footy at Champ level
Churlinov - rumours that Schalke want him back, out of favour here it seems
Weghorst - hopefully done enough at United for them or someone to give us 10m
Taylor - can't see him being used at cb in the Prem and doesn't suit left back
McNally - Cov will want to keep him and he'd be 5th choice still here
Incomings
Starters:
Striker - ideally a 1st team quality player with Foster, Obafemi and Jay competing (Piroe / Gyokeres from the Champ would suit us)
CM - I'm hoping for a dynamic, athletic ball playing midfield alongside Cullen (Sambi Lokonga at Arsenal, played with Cullen at Anderlecht under VK)
Winger/attacker - just some more creative quality, currently there's no real back up to Zaroury? (Verschaeren at Anderlecht, Paintsil/Tresor at Genk)
Loanees - Maatsen and THB loan, Tella and Beyer permanents
Squad:
Left back - after Maatsen, better back up (Ryan Manning at Swansea, out of contract and good profile for our versatile full back role)
Midfield - another midfield option to add goals (Hugo Vetlesen from Bodo Glimt or Hamer from Coventry)
Overall I can see around a 50m spend, but with those outgoings perhaps we can raise at least 15m in sales, should be manageable.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:56 am
by RVclaret
RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:52 am
Squad:
Left back - after Maatsen, better back up (Ryan Manning at Swansea, out of contract and good profile for our versatile full back role)
Midfield - another midfield option to add goals (Hugo Vetlesen from Bodo Glimt or Hamer from Coventry)
Forgot to add
Keeper - Anderlecht's Bart Verbruggen top of the list
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:56 am
by Big Vinny K
JayRod still has a year left on his contract doesn’t he ? I doubt he will want to leave unless he gets an offer of a new 2 or 3 year contract from a decent club.
If we can get THB on another season long loan I think we are covered at CB.
If we manage to get Maatsen I would try and sign another left back and try and sell Charlie T. If CT wants to stay that’s not a big issue either as he’s got a lot of PL experience and would be decent back up.
I think we need to prioritise Centre Mid and would bring in at least one quality signing.
Tella would be a great signing and I think we will go for another forward or wide player too. Would not be surprised if a 3 or 4 of existing squad or even more were let out on loan.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:58 am
by claretburns
Saw a £25 million link to Alex Scott as Bristol City which seems unlikely with the likes of Tottenham sniffing around.
Also saw a link to Joel Piroe at Swansea for £10 million.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:18 am
by HistoricalClaret
Cleveleys_claret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:15 am
So, what activity do we think will occur in the summer. Personally think a few will be loaned out, in case of a return the following year and as long as clubs foot the wages of players, dont think we will have brought in players to cut our losses so quickly on them.
So here goes
SQUAD
GK: Muric, Franchi NEW SIGNING
RB: Roberts, NEW SIGNING
LB: Maatsen (fingers crossed) NEW SIGNING
CB: Dakhil, Beyer, Ekdal NEW SIGNING
CM: Cork, Cullen, Brownhill, NEW SIGNING
ATT MID: Zaroury, Benson, Gudmundson, Churlinov, Vitinho NEW SIGNING
ATT: Tella (fingers crossed), Foster, Obafemi NEW SIGNING Barnes
Then I think the likes of Twine, Egan Riley, Bastien, McNally will be loaned out to championship clubs with the hope of them making an impact and putting in the clause that they play so many games.
Then offload Jay Rod, Taylor, Peacock Farrell
In my opinion I can foresee another busy summer, including the likes of Tella, Beyer, Obafemi, Maatsen signing I can see us signing 10 to 12 players again, probably try to get in on loan 2 or 3 players with that, hopefully one being Harwood Bellis
(Disclaimer: I may have forgot a player or two, we have so many these days)
We already have a RB coming in on a free in Fahd Moufi according to the Portuguese press from back in January, we got him to sign a pre-contract deal
Think we will get THB on another loan too ICL.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:19 am
by DCWat
I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see another busy window and perhaps some surprise outgoings.
The last game of this season will be bitter sweet - I could quite happily have another 46 games of watching this team, in this division.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:25 am
by HistoricalClaret
Ill some up what I want to see happen personally
Maatsen - Loan/Buy
Tella - Buy if price is right
THB - Loan Again
Barnes - renew as a player coach (Purely for dressing room)
Beyer - Option obvs
Tresor - His number output this season in the BPL is outrageous
CDM - Corky's legs wont hold up - Lokonga if available
ST - If possible get ohnuachu from southampton when they go down him and Tresor put out ridiculous numbers together at Genk
Backup GK - Verbuggen - Anderlecht really in money trouble lad will want to come his mentor (GK Coach) is here and hes a ridiculous prospect
Backup RB - Fahd Moufi - Already happening according to Portuguese press
Backup LB - Already in house with Vitihno proved he can do it this season
Sales
Jay Rod
Weghorst
Taylor
BPF - Not fair to keep him anymore let him go be number 1 in the championship
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:31 am
by Steddyman
Why do people think BPF needs to go? He has been a superb stand in for Muric this year and has adapted his game to how VK wants to play with excellent distribution. I think he is perfect backup in his current form.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:38 am
by Longsidelenny1882
Hope we get the centre forward from Coventry for me the best I have seen on the turf for years utc
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:39 am
by HistoricalClaret
Steddyman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:31 am
Why do people think BPF needs to go? He has been a superb stand in for Muric this year and has adapted his game to how VK wants to play with excellent distribution. I think he is perfect backup in his current form.
Because he rightfully should be a number one somewhere and not be stuck as our number 2
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:39 am
by warksclaret
I think Charlie Taylor will be Dyche's first signing of the Summer. His type of defender who he knows and trusts and I think CT will benefit from a move. Think this will happen regardless of whether Everton stay up or not
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:41 am
by NewClaret
Steddyman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:31 am
Why do people think BPF needs to go? He has been a superb stand in for Muric this year and has adapted his game to how VK wants to play with excellent distribution. I think he is perfect backup in his current form.
Agree Steddyman.
Having watched Verbruggen for 90 minutes though, I would love for us to sign him though. Looks a real talent.
I can’t see him necessarily getting in past Muric though (his distribution didn’t look at his levels), despite him looking a very assured keeper. I’d love to see him signed and maybe loaned again to Anderlecht or other team he’d get regular first team football at.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:42 am
by NewClaret
warksclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:39 am
I think Charlie Taylor will be Dyche's first signing of the Summer. His type of defender who he knows and trusts and I think CT will benefit from a move. Think this will happen regardless of whether Everton stay up or not
This is a good call as I think Everton are light in the LB area? I was surprised it didn’t happen in January actually.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:44 am
by Quickenthetempo
Put all the money into the midfield.
One Spanish ball player type and one African/French athletic type who is also good on the ball.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:47 am
by Devils_Advocate
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:48 am
by Hbclaret007
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:44 am
Put all the money into the midfield.
One Spanish ball player type and one African/French athletic type who is also good on the ball.
Completely agree. Our midfield cost us our PL place last season. We need to be much stronger with more options.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:57 am
by NewClaret
Re: Maatsen, I hope we sign him as one to develop but I have to be honest and say that defensively I’m not 100% sure at Prem level.
Got done a few times last night where he should’ve blocked crosses/dealt with danger. You will get that with young players so I’m not knocking him at all, just feel we need a more experienced LB as well (if Charlie isn’t the answer).
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:57 am
by SalisburyClaret
We have 2 defenders who have proven capable in the Premier League, they have the experience to know what they can get away with and how to deal with PL strikers, so it’s essential that Charlie Taylor stays as well as Roberts. Unless we buy replacements of similar experience.
The other backs are all unproven.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:00 pm
by arise_sir_charge
Not convinced about Taylor with Dyche.
He wasn’t averse to leaving him out then he had him here.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 12:06 pm
by HistoricalClaret
SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:57 am
We have 2 defenders who have proven capable in the Premier League, they have the experience to know what they can get away with and how to deal with PL strikers, so it’s essential that Charlie Taylor stays as well as Roberts. Unless we buy replacements of similar experience.
The other backs are all unproven.
Taylor wont be staying I think thats the most obvious thing going, swear it was also mentioned by the athletic that if an opportunity arose hed have been allowed to leave in january though I cant remember for sure
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:02 pm
by Spijed
One thing few have picked up on is both Brentford & Brighton have experience at the centre of defence, something we lack. For all the flair players they have it's no surprise that both Ben Mee & Lewis Dunk are very important to how they play with the ability to organise players around them.
It might be the case that we don't need similar experience, but it's certainly something we should consider.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:03 pm
by Colburn_Claret
I haven't read the whole thread, just picking up at the loss of BPF. He's had a great season, and looked fine when called on. We need solid back up, and he provides this. Unless we are continuing to chase the young lad from Belgium, it would be daft to lose Bailey. We also have bigger priorities that would need the cash, more than a goalkeeper.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:06 pm
by RVclaret
Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:03 pm
I haven't read the whole thread, just picking up at the loss of BPF. He's had a great season, and looked fine when called on. We need solid back up, and he provides this. Unless we are continuing to chase the young lad from Belgium, it would be daft to lose Bailey. We also have bigger priorities that would need the cash, more than a goalkeeper.
Agree he’s done well but the question is does he want to stay and be a number 2? He’s definitely good enough to be starting in the Champ and I’d imagine after this season he’ll have a few teams interested.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:26 pm
by Colburn_Claret
RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:06 pm
Agree he’s done well but the question is does he want to stay and be a number 2? He’s definitely good enough to be starting in the Champ and I’d imagine after this season he’ll have a few teams interested.
If he chooses to go, that would be different, but it read as though he wasn't good enough, which clearly he is.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:38 pm
by DCWat
Hbclaret007 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:48 am
Completely agree. Our midfield cost us our PL place last season. We need to be much stronger with more options.
I’d go as far as to say that each of the three relegations that we have had from the Premier League, would have been avoided, had we invested in the midfield.
Definitely an area we need decent investment in.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:40 pm
by Pickles
We've needed a tall, strong, quick centre midfielder for I reckon the best part of a decade, maybe longer.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:43 pm
by HistoricalClaret
Pickles wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:40 pm
We've needed a tall, strong, quick centre midfielder for I reckon the best part of a decade, maybe longer.
This summer what we need is a young Jack Cork the exact same player but younger
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:07 pm
by Spike
first signing must be a Pacey auditor or nothing else can happen
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:08 pm
by Pickles
HistoricalClaret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:43 pm
This summer what we need is a young Jack Cork the exact same player but younger
Agreed, and a player like the one I described above.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:09 pm
by Pickles
Spike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:07 pm
first signing must be a Pacey auditor or nothing else can happen
I'd rather them take their time to do a thorough job.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:19 pm
by Spike
Pickles wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:09 pm
I'd rather them take their time to do a thorough job.
They have certainly been taking their time!
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:19 pm
by Vegas Claret
I can't seeing Bastien hanging about sadly, doesn't seem to be pulling up any trees. I suspect Churlinov may also go
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:23 pm
by HiThere
Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:19 pm
I can't seeing Bastien hanging about sadly, doesn't seem to be pulling up any trees. I suspect Churlinov may also go
I think so too. Not sure Twine will be here either, expect he'll be out on loan at the very least.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:26 pm
by Vegas Claret
HiThere wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:23 pm
I think so too. Not sure Twine will be here either, expect he'll be out on loan at the very least.
yeah he's been a weird one, clearly technically really good but lacks the physicality.
edit: I'll just add it's been pretty impossible for him to break into the team, plus his injury etc wouldn't have helped him at all. You never know what a proper pre-season will do
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:44 pm
by warksclaret
Two midfielders are a definite priority-I think its too big a jump for Brownhill & Cork to be competing every week in the PL. Need to get some intelligence on Brighton's recruiting-its unreal. Both Bissouma and Caiecedo have been sensational signings with little outlay
Bissouma went to Spurs for £30m and Brighton rejected £60m plus for Caicedo recently from Arsenal.Both just the type of players we should be looking at, but obviously before they have reached this status, so that we have the option to make a pretty sum. THis seasons transfer activity says to me we can do it now with the resources we have
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:46 pm
by claretonthecoast1882
Spike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:07 pm
first signing must be a Pacey auditor or nothing else can happen
Is this your new pun ? you seem to be using it a lot on threads
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:56 pm
by KateR
I'm not sure about THB, 95+% it's a loan rather than we can buy, watching Ekdal play, I'm not sure THB is any better and I am pretty sure THB & Man City will not want him as a back up player, however if VK thinks 3 CB for rotation and the 4th for back up then it could work. If Taylor remains as back up, we will have 3 BFC players (assuming Bayer is bought) and that might be enough.
Tella & Maatsen becoming ours could be a big ask to get both, and I think Maatsen is more likely to make the move than Tella but of course this all depends on the end of EPL and which league Southampton are playing in. Plus I can see being in demand, with a high price that we might not be able to make in a bidding war.
I think CM and striker are essential for new faces at the moment but can easily be more depending on how many of the loans stay out of the 4 mentioned, other's I can see leaving on loan or permanent.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:05 pm
by mdd2
I think the squad of 25 excludes players under 21 on jan 1st 2023 but includes loans irrespective of age
Assuming all our loans return to parent clubs and we keep Obafemi as seems to be the deal we have 21 players already and that assumes Barnes leaves
All these 21 players are are contracted beyond 2023 and includes Bobby Thomas who is 22. Egan Riley Franchi Al Dakhil Richardson Dodgson Costelloe Tucker Agyei are under 21 as would Maatsen be if we signed him but not loaned.
We therefore only have room for 4 signings or 2 if we get Tella and Beyer and none if we also take THB and Maatsen on loan, if I have understood the rules correctly
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:10 pm
by HiThere
How good is this? 9 games still to go and we're already thinking and looking forward to the summer transfer window.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:12 pm
by KateR
why 10, 9 league and 3/4 cup games

Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:13 pm
by Taffy on the wing
Pickles wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 1:40 pm
We've needed a tall, strong, quick centre midfielder for I reckon the best part of a decade, maybe longer.
That Bosnian from the Turkish league had me excited........we need someone like that.
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:18 pm
by RVclaret
HiThere wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:10 pm
How good is this? 9 games still to go and we're already thinking and looking forward to the summer transfer window.
Yes and more importantly I’m sure work is being done behind the scenes to give us a head start for the summer, with recruitment / scouting now fixed on the PL and budgets already being prepared. This gives us an advantage over, let’s say, any of the potential play off teams who won’t know their fate until late May!
Re: Summer Transfer Window
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:20 pm
by Pickles
Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 3:13 pm
That Bosnian from the Turkish league had me excited........we need someone like that.
Yeah, he looked decent. Possibly doesn't have the physical presence I feel we've been crying out for for years. Two centre mids needed I reckon.