• Beyer

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:28 pm**

Playing on YouTube for German u21

https://www.youtube.com/live/ZPnNVhGdSKc?feature=share

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:57 pm**

Cheers, English comms a bonus.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:02 pm**

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:57 pm
Cheers, English comms a bonus.

Just how good is this lad, TT.....A very special future in the game.

Sign him on.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:19 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:02 pm
Just how good is this lad, TT.....A very special future in the game.

Sign him on.

I only caught the last 20 mins but he played exactly as he does for us. Although I never saw him carry the ball, defensively he is coolness personified.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:26 pm**

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:19 pm
I only caught the last 20 mins but he played exactly as he does for us. Although I never saw him carry the ball, defensively he is coolness personified.

Those forward movements with the ball make him a unique talent as a back four player.

Imperative we make him ours for next season.

On a different note......those photos of yesteryear are so badly missed....Is there not potential for a new thread ?

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:28 pm**

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:19 pm
I only caught the last 20 mins but he played exactly as he does for us. Although I never saw him carry the ball, defensively he is coolness personified.

Only watched the 2nd half, but your right. He only made one forward surge, that I saw anyway.
Always looks really composed on the ball and, seems to have loads of time.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:34 pm**

He’s a special talent. And those slaloming runs out of defence have been one of the (many) highlights from this season. Hope the rumours are true that we have an option and that we take it up.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:34 pm**

Been saying it for months…. Best centre half at the club.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:37 pm**

Fast becoming my favourite player - he’s great to watch, defensively and with the ball at his feet. He seems to stroll through games and makes it look pretty bloody easy.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:39 pm**

i'm watching it now, sub-titles are brilliant

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:42 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:37 pm
Fast becoming my favourite player - he’s great to watch, defensively and with the ball at his feet. He seems to stroll through games and makes it look pretty bloody easy.

Bobby Moore...esque ?

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:44 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:42 pm
Bobby Moore...esque ?

Before my time, Royboy.

Now that’s someone I’d loved to have seen play.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:44 pm**

I'm probably being wishful, but wouldn't mind him and THB becoming the bedrock of our defence for as long as Tarks & Ben were.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:48 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:44 pm
Before my time, Royboy.

Now that’s someone I’d loved to have seen play.

Trust me, DC, he was very special......Beyer has a long way to go, but there's a definite similarity.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:49 pm**

bobinho wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:34 pm
Been saying it for months…. Best centre half at the club.

The fact that this is open to discussion shows how brilliant our central defenders are.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:54 pm**

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:49 pm
The fact that this is open to discussion shows how brilliant our central defenders are.

Totally agree Goody...... It's our central midfield I'm less than convinced about.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:01 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:54 pm
Totally agree Goody...... It's our central midfield I'm less than convinced about.

Tried to strengthen in January, it will be one of the areas definitely targeted in the summer.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:03 pm**

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:01 pm
Tried to strengthen in January, it will be one of the areas definitely targeted in the summer.

Anyone in mind ?

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:12 pm**

Priority signing for me. Him and Cullen are the first names on my team sheet.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:14 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:03 pm
Anyone in mind ?

It will probably be different players being considered now we an almost guaranteed spot in the PL next season and the corresponding budget increase.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:17 pm**

bfcmik wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:14 pm
It will probably be different players being considered now we an almost guaranteed spot in the PL next season and the corresponding budget increase.

Understand that.....but Goody's judgement is one I respect....

....Wish I could share other poster's confidence in Cullen.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:18 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:03 pm
Anyone in mind ?

Don't want this to distract from the Beyer discussion but we were heavily linked with Amir Hadžiahmetović, he wanted to stay in Turkey and signed for Beşiktaş.

I would think we will sign two central midfielders in the summer but that's guesswork rather than with any real substance to back it up.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:24 pm**

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:18 pm
Don't want this to distract from the Beyer discussion but we were heavily linked with Amir Hadžiahmetović, he wanted to stay in Turkey and signed for Beşiktaş.

I would think we will sign two central midfielders in the summer but that's guesswork rather than with any real substance to back it up.

Is he Premier League standard, Goody ?

We really want to be able to compete next season......not just making up the numbers.

The keeper and back four are so strong (Ekdal will be desperately unlucky to miss out).....but we must strengthen elsewhere.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:31 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:24 pm
Is he Premier League standard, Goody ?

We really want to be able to compete next season......not just making up the numbers.

The keeper and back four are so strong (Ekdal will be desperately unlucky to miss out).....but we must strengthen elsewhere.

We were all excited about his clips on YouTube (I know that's not always the truest reflection), he seemed to be a decent all round midfielder at a good age.

Was he Premier League standard? Impossible to tell.

If we can be as good in the transfer market this summer as we were last then we have a real chance, the issue is the bar has been raised as well as the fees and wages.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:36 pm**

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:31 pm
We were all excited about his clips on YouTube (I know that's not always the truest reflection), he seemed to be a decent all round midfielder at a good age.

Was he Premier League standard? Impossible to tell.

If we can be as good in the transfer market this summer as we were last then we have a real chance, the issue is the bar has been raised as well as the fees and wages.

The bar most certainly has been raised again and if Ratcliffe is successful in acquiring United then we are entering a different world.......but, what the hell, let's be part of it in our own unique Burnley way.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:38 pm**

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:18 pm
Don't want this to distract from the Beyer discussion but we were heavily linked with Amir Hadžiahmetović, he wanted to stay in Turkey and signed for Beşiktaş.

I would think we will sign two central midfielders in the summer but that's guesswork rather than with any real substance to back it up.

all day long we need 2 top drawer (as much as we can afford) midfielders, it's our glaring weakness imho

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:50 pm**

Cullen looks top notch at this level. Hopefully I’m wrong but I’m not sure if he will be effective enough at the level above.

Agree - midfield is the key.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:55 pm**

No where near the best centre half we've had, but definitely the best footballing centre half we've possibly ever had.

He suits us.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:12 pm**

DCWat wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:50 pm
Cullen looks top notch at this level. Hopefully I’m wrong but I’m not sure if he will be effective enough at the level above.

Agree - midfield is the key.

I think Cullen will be fine with the right players alongside him.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:14 pm**

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 8:55 pm
No where near the best centre half we've had, but definitely the best footballing centre half we've possibly ever had.

He suits us.

Whoa....steady BOT......you, of all people, know better than that.

Jimmy Adamson was the closest thing to Bobby Moore that we will ever see.......but Beyer has so much potential.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:23 pm**

He is without doubt my favourite Burnley player.
The option to buy is an absolute cert on promotion.
Mönchengladbach's directer admittedly said it was out of their hands now even though they would love him to come back after his performances this season.
The only things stopping a deal now is us as a club not persuing a full time deal or if Beyer decided not to sign.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:28 pm**

Raconteur wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:23 pm
He is without doubt my favourite Burnley player.
The option to buy is an absolute cert on promotion.
Mönchengladbach's directer admittedly said it was out of their hands now even though they would love him to come back after his performances this season.
The only things stopping a deal now is us as a club not persuing a full time deal or if Beyer decided not to sign.

Beyer will 100% be ready to sign, and play alongside Harwood-Bellis in the PL next season.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:29 pm**

Mönchengladbach are a massive club but nevertheless they must have some centre halves if Beyer can leave.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:30 pm**

Future captain.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:00 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:14 pm
Whoa....steady BOT......you, of all people, know better than that.

Jimmy Adamson was the closest thing to Bobby Moore that we will ever see.......but Beyer has so much potential.

Different game now Royboy.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:06 pm**

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:00 pm
Different game now Royboy.

That's as maybe......but Beyer is still a million miles behind Adamson at his prime.

And, i think you genuinely know it.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:08 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:26 pm
On a different note......those photos of yesteryear are so badly missed....Is there not potential for a new thread ?

Bump the old thread and I’ll stick some more up, Royboy. It got so long I was bored with searching through to see what had been up before. I’ve now renamed my collection by date and it will make it easier.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:13 pm**

Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:08 pm
Bump the old thread and I’ll stick some more up, Royboy. It got so long I was bored with searching through to see what had been up before. I’ve now renamed my collection by date and it will make it easier.

Was it ClaretGeorgina.....1960's BFC squad photo ?

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:32 pm**

Royboyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:13 pm
Was it ClaretGeorgina.....1960's BFC squad photo ?

Bumped it for you..

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:41 pm**

Buxtonclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 7:44 pm
I'm probably being wishful, but wouldn't mind him and THB becoming the bedrock of our defence for as long as Tarks & Ben were.

Beyer and Ekdal?

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:50 pm**

Pickles wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 9:29 pm
Mönchengladbach are a massive club but nevertheless they must have some centre halves if Beyer can leave.

I think they have already come to the conclusion that it was the wrong decision to include any option. Hence the recent visits for some negotiations.

Just watch out for the charm offensive coming from Mönchengladbach for the rest of the season. Jordan has already said that it is going to be a tough decision coming in the summer as he has love for both clubs

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:06 pm**

Our best player.

Posted: **Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:51 pm**

One thing for certain is our scouting department has obviously had a massive upgrade and deserve a standing ovation for this seasons work

Posted: **Sat Mar 25, 2023 12:31 am**

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Fri Mar 24, 2023 10:41 pm
Beyer and Ekdal?

It's another choice, isn't it.
We've also got another playing pretty well out on loan.
Love how THB uses the ball.

Posted: **Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:01 am**

From what I've seen so far I think defensively Ekdal seems the best. He reads the game so well which makes his job easier. John Terry like. He's also the oldest which may well be why he reads play better than the others.

Beyer is not quite as good at reading the game, but a bit faster and better dribbling forward. At times he's not strong enough.

Harwood-Bellis can pick a pass better but seems to lose concentration quite a bit off the ball. He's also a very good dribbler.

Al Dakhil has a bit of pace to him but doesn't read the game to well.

Given they are all so young they are all going to become excellent defenders.

A great position to be in, even if Beyer or Harwood-Bellis don't become permanent. Ideally we keep all 4.

I get the impression McNally is not deemed to be good enough on the ball.

For me it should be Beyer and Ekdal with Harwood-Bellis not far behind.

Posted: **Sat Mar 25, 2023 5:41 am**

superdimitri wrote: ↑
Sat Mar 25, 2023 2:01 am
From what I've seen so far I think defensively Ekdal seems the best. He reads the game so well which makes his job easier. John Terry like. He's also the oldest which may well be why he reads play better than the others.

Beyer is not quite as good at reading the game, but a bit faster and better dribbling forward. At times he's not strong enough.

Harwood-Bellis can pick a pass better but seems to lose concentration quite a bit off the ball. He's also a very good dribbler.

Al Dakhil has a bit of pace to him but doesn't read the game to well.

Given they are all so young they are all going to become excellent defenders.

A great position to be in, even if Beyer or Harwood-Bellis don't become permanent. Ideally we keep all 4.

I get the impression McNally is not deemed to be good enough on the ball.

For me it should be Beyer and Ekdal with Harwood-Bellis not far behind.

I agree with every word.

Posted: **Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:24 am**

The pull for all of these loan players to sign next year is massive. ALL of them.

-They're more or less assured of 30+ prem appearances at their age

-They LOVE it here

-Going back to their clubs they're all (Beyer aside probably) not going to be starting XI

-They know VK will strengthen and will feel like top 10 or even top 7 is possible and likely the aim from within camp IMO

-Get them all signed with +2 CMs, same model but a step up in quality (so they're PL ready) and we're good

UTC

Posted: **Sat Mar 25, 2023 7:50 am**

Those forward runs of Beyer remind me of Steve DAVIS Mk2 who would do the occasional burst forwards but not as often as this young lad

Posted: **Sat Mar 25, 2023 9:28 am**

He reminds me of Alan Hansen in his pomp at Liverpool. The way he carries the ball out of defence, then has a turn of speed. Very impressive.

Posted: **Sat Mar 25, 2023 1:07 pm**

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN5mUYkzYw8

Don't know if this has been on here before but it's a good interview with him. Borussia keeping tabs on him.

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