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Cooper safe for now

Post by tiger76 » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:38 pm

Hardly a ringing endorsement mind you, with the owner demanding an immediate in results.

Not an easy match on Saturday with a trip to an in form Villa who are scoring for fun recently, 8 games without a win at present, you have to fear for Steve Cooper's future if that becomes 9.

SC has almost been a victim of his own success in a way, hauling Forest off the foot of the Championship to then win the play-off's, and yes Forest have splashed the cash, but how many of those signings were Cooper's.

One thing is certain if Cooper does get pushed he won't be out of work for long.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Marney&Mee » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:45 pm

don't fancy their next 5 games...

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Vincent'sCap » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:49 pm

Marney&Mee wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:45 pm
don't fancy their next 5 games...
Always liked Forest from Cloughie's two European cups winning days, a good club I hope he sticks with Cooper and they stay up.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:50 pm

I don't get the Copper love in
He did OK at Swansea yet he had a potential great team bought for him at Forest yet he's struggling
Another media hyped manager
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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Here's-Johnny » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:54 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:50 pm
I don't get the Copper love in
He did OK at Swansea yet he had a potential great team bought for him at Forest yet he's struggling
Another media hyped manager
What's not to love about old Bill....
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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Bosscat » Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:59 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:50 pm
I don't get the Copper love in
He did OK at Swansea yet he had a potential great team bought for him at Forest yet he's struggling
Another media hyped manager
Look after the Coppers and the pounds will take care of themselves

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by tiger76 » Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:38 pm

Marney&Mee wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:45 pm
don't fancy their next 5 games...
Ouch! I see what you mean.

Villa (a) - Villa going well under Emery, and they'll want to win the derby.
Utd (H) - Who knows which Utd will turn up, however you sense Manure have got to catch form again soon.
Liverpool (a) - Liverpool's form on the road isn't great, however it's never an easy task going to Anfield.
Brighton (H) - Brighton flying under de Zerbi, and every chance they can claim a European place.
Brentford (a) - Similar to Brighton the Bees are buzzing this term. and they will equally sense a European place is within their grasp.

The main reason Forest are just above the drop zone is their home form, however I wouldn't be confident of them getting much out of Brighton or Man U, and given their wretched away record it's difficult to make a case for many points at 3 tough venues.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:44 pm

Nice to see the spelling police haven't lost their sense of humour
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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by 4midable » Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:47 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:38 pm
Hardly a ringing endorsement mind you, with the owner demanding an immediate in results.

Not an easy match on Saturday with a trip to an in form Villa who are scoring for fun recently, 8 games without a win at present, you have to fear for Steve Cooper's future if that becomes 9.

SC has almost been a victim of his own success in a way, hauling Forest off the foot of the Championship to then win the play-off's, and yes Forest have splashed the cash, but how many of those signings were Cooper's.

One thing is certain if Cooper does get pushed he won't be out of work for long.
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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by HollandsPies » Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:59 pm

Would love Cooper to get potted, and Notts Forest get relegated.
Awful fans. Worst I've ever met and that's saying something.
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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Rowls » Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:30 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:38 pm
Ouch! I see what you mean.

Villa (a) - Villa going well under Emery, and they'll want to win the derby.
Utd (H) - Who knows which Utd will turn up, however you sense Manure have got to catch form again soon.
Liverpool (a) - Liverpool's form on the road isn't great, however it's never an easy task going to Anfield.
Brighton (H) - Brighton flying under de Zerbi, and every chance they can claim a European place.
Brentford (a) - Similar to Brighton the Bees are buzzing this term. and they will equally sense a European place is within their grasp.

The main reason Forest are just above the drop zone is their home form, however I wouldn't be confident of them getting much out of Brighton or Man U, and given their wretched away record it's difficult to make a case for many points at 3 tough venues.
A quick point - Villa and Forest isn't a derby.
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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:40 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:50 pm
I don't get the Copper love in
He did OK at Swansea yet he had a potential great team bought for him at Forest yet he's struggling
Another media hyped manager
He turned forest from relegation candidates to promotion winners in less than a season while playing good football. He has had players bought for him that wasn’t necessarily his players and kept them above water for now. If you put any manager into a club with a turnover of playing staff as huge as this, they will always struggle especially if there are players there that he didn’t want. I can’t imagine cooper wanting 30 plus players after a promotion campaign. And before you point to Kompany, that’s a completely different situation he almost had a clean slate and an input on signings

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:01 pm

Reckon Forest are going down, Cooper still in charge or not. Saints to accompany them.

As for the final relegation place, i think its gonna be between Leicester, Bournemouth and Everton, with Leicester looking the most likely.

Think West Ham and (unfortunately) Leeds will have enough to stay up.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:19 pm

The “Sleep walker” gives me nightmares after his interviews.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by rufus lumley » Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:20 pm

Looks like the owner has him over a barrel.
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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by IanMcL » Thu Apr 06, 2023 3:19 am

rufus lumley wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:20 pm
Looks like the owner has him over a barrel.
More likely the reverse! :lol:

I am scraping it now!

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:39 am

Rowls wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:30 pm
A quick point - Villa and Forest isn't a derby.
Of course vile Forest and Derby is!

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by KRBFC » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:05 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 3:50 pm
I don't get the Copper love in
He did OK at Swansea yet he had a potential great team bought for him at Forest yet he's struggling
Another media hyped manager
Very successful at England youth level, won the U17 World Cup.
Two seasons at Swansea, two playoff appearances, 2 defeats to Brentford.
Appointed at Forest when they were rock bottom of the league, took them up the same season via the playoffs.

43 year old, very young in managerial terms. 3/3 successful seasons. Where is the ''love in all media hype?''

A potential great team bought for him at Forest? Lmaooooo 90% of those signings are sh!te. Where's the great players?
Forest are doing well not to be bottom of the league at this stage imo.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Hipper » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:13 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:05 pm
Very successful at England youth level, won the U17 World Cup.
Two seasons at Swansea, two playoff appearances, 2 defeats to Brentford.
Appointed at Forest when they were rock bottom of the league, took them up the same season via the playoffs.

43 year old, very young in managerial terms. 3/3 successful seasons. Where is the ''love in all media hype?''

A potential great team bought for him at Forest? Lmaooooo 90% of those signings are sh!te. Where's the great players?
Forest are doing well not to be bottom of the league at this stage imo.
Agree. You mean players like Lingard and Wood.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by KRBFC » Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:53 pm

Hipper wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 2:13 pm
Agree. You mean players like Lingard and Wood.
Really poor recruitment, far too many average players and too many players in general. I doubt those were Cooper signings.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Billy Balfour » Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:23 pm

I watched the Leeds game. Forest looked like they couldn't be arsed. Cooper will be gone by Monday if they don't pick something up at Villa on Saturday.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by tiger76 » Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:53 pm

Billy Balfour wrote:
Thu Apr 06, 2023 4:23 pm
I watched the Leeds game. Forest looked like they couldn't be arsed. Cooper will be gone by Monday if they don't pick something up at Villa on Saturday.
That certainly seemed to be the message from the owner, shape up and get results or you are on your bike Steve.

The one thing that is unacceptable in football is players not putting the effort in, especially in a crucial relegation clash.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Apr 07, 2023 1:07 am

He’s the cooperman of the East Midlands Clark kent vs Robin Hood you gotta be kidding.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by willsclarets » Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:04 am

HollandsPies wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:59 pm
Would love Cooper to get potted, and Notts Forest get relegated.
Awful fans. Worst I've ever met and that's saying something.
There's probably over 100,000 of them, on what basis do you think this is logical. Loads of clubs will think we're the worst fans in the country based on news events. Is that any more true?

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by tiger76 » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:16 pm

Cooper survives for now, however Nottingham Forest have sacked sporting director Filippo Giraldi after only six months.

For once it's not the manger who pays the price, well at least not yet.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:19 pm

Bit late now to give Cooper the elbow, might as well stick with him.
I mean, they've missed out on Dean Smith...😄

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Nonayforever » Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:26 pm

I don't understand the playing squad size.
Forest have about 42 players in their squad. Something like 35 players have made appearances this season yet I thought clubs were only allowed a pool of 25 players .
How does that work ?

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Commy » Thu Apr 13, 2023 3:36 am

Nonayforever wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 8:26 pm
I don't understand the playing squad size.
Forest have about 42 players in their squad. Something like 35 players have made appearances this season yet I thought clubs were only allowed a pool of 25 players .
How does that work ?
They give another list of 25 after the Jan window I think. They will have altered it with the new signings in and any long term injured players will have been swapped out.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by Lord Beamish » Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:48 am

HollandsPies wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 4:59 pm
Would love Cooper to get potted, and Notts Forest get relegated.
Awful fans. Worst I've ever met and that's saying something.
You still live down that way, HP?

Fed up of them banging on about 40-odd years ago?

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by NickBFC » Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:20 am

I reckon he'll be sacked in the summer at the latest whether they stay up or not. Feel a bit for him, no doubt a difficult job when (I assume?) most of the ridiculous number of signings have been outside his control. Would be funny if they dropped.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by HollandsPies » Thu Apr 13, 2023 9:58 am

Hi Beamish, still living down here - near Junction 27 on the M1.
Funnily, last August all the Notts Forest fans were banging on about being back in Europe/top 6 by the end of the season. Despite my words of caution along the lines of 'all you need is 36 points in your first season'.

Was in the local miners' welfare last night and the topic of discussion was the realistic chance of relegation, fuelled by my faux 'concern'.
Anyway, they still got into the conversation that they won the European Cup twice, Cloughie would never have allowed this to happen and call Burnley 'Burnsleh'.

Hope all is well your end.

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Re: Cooper safe for now

Post by jetblackcat » Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:57 am

I live very near to Holland’s and some of the nonsense spouted about winning the Champions League was fairly commonplace. The same people wanted Cooper sacked after about two months. After the miracle he performed last season albeit with a ton of luck Cooper is the best man they’ve got if they give him the means to build his own squad.

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