PL champs only 7 years ago, some great players, yet they're second bottom.

Whats going on?

They done got old!

Poor investment in players
Poor managerial choices

That's all it ever is for clubs that drop like they have.

Seems to me the old man died in that chopper crash and the son isnt investing in the same way, but lets look at Leicester historically they are a yo-yo team, probably back to where they belong really, had an amazing last few years an FA cup and a league winners

Bit like that lot down the road after old Jack moved on

Jesse Marsch

Vardy no pace and touch going with age.He rescued many a game but age has caught up
He's been a great player but now it's time to hang up his boots

well, after they wen't into Administration, didn't pay the Ambulance staff nor the majority of contractors who built their stadium I think it's fantastic to see them returning to their natural level. It will hopefully wipe the smile off their smug forgetful fans who thought they were the second coming. I think it will be amazing if them and Forest drop

It just goes to show how strong the premiership is and what is needed to survive.

Refs stopped giving pens for those - sprint at full pace then stop on a landmine thingies

It should be a very big lesson to any of our supporters, and basically any smaller club that when there's talk of trying to become "established" and "moving onto the next level" when it comes to stopping in the Premier League it's a dream that fraught with danger. Only the very biggest clubs can and will survive.

For everyone else just enjoy the ride for a few seasons and hope to get promoted again as that's the only realistic outcome.

Garnerssoap wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:13 am

Refs stopped giving pens for those - sprint at full pace then stop on a landmine thingies

Except for Harry kane, as full pace for him isn't that fast. He still gets given them no problem.

Good goal yesterday though. He should stick to that sort of thing.

Owner died in a helicopter crash, their better players from years gone by are no longer the same players (Tielemans, Evans, Vardy, Ndidi, Ricardo, Soyuncu) for various reasons, alot of big injuries to those and some just getting older.

The squad isn't much different to the one that won the FA Cup and was competing for top 4 a couple of years ago, not too dissimilar to the problem we ran into, stand still and you go backwards rapidly.

I thought the owner was potentially looking to get out but a Leicester fan said he was shoring up the finances to invest heavily this summer. I'm not sure they'll still be a PL club then, especially if they appoint Marsch, I think most keep expecting them to pick up results to pull away but as weeks go by, they look in deep deep shite.

They don't seem to be picking up any points in their key games, palace away & especially Bournemouth at home when you are down near the bottom it's vital you get something from them games even if it's only a odd point, they do have some very good players just not enough of them & they don't really play well as a structured team that said with a few quality additions & a manager who know how to set them up they shouldn't be anywhere near where they are now.

Definitely a knock on from losing their Chairman.
His son hasn't invested the same way, and that sort of malaise pervades through a club eventually. The heart and soul of the players has gone. Rodgers looked the same, just went through the motions this last 4 months.

Lets bring Harvey Barnes 'home' when they go down.

Player power.

The players have had too much of a say and down tools when no longer picked. Fair few bad apples in that dressing room.

ClaretInLeeds wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:52 am

Player power.

The players have had too much of a say and down tools when no longer picked. Fair few bad apples in that dressing room.

Wasn't Kasper Schmeichel the leader of that little group?
With him gone that should be less of an issue

There biggest issues have come from selling their top talent too frequently and failing to replace older players.

If they had signed a decent striker to replace Vardy last season they probably wouldn’t be in this mess now.

Its lack of form and injuries this season, but the long term failure to replace Vardy is clearly a factor

They look to have far too many players who just are not good enough for this league, but even saying that they should be fine once they appoint a manager

But Yank Lampard is still a surprising choice it has to be said

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:05 am

There biggest issues have come from selling their top talent too frequently and failing to replace older players.

If they had signed a decent striker to replace Vardy last season they probably wouldn’t be in this mess now.

Think they hoped Daka would be that guy but not really turned out that way

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:58 am

Wasn't Kasper Schmeichel the leader of that little group?
With him gone that should be less of an issue

Thought it was Jamie Vardy and his band of merry men?

Off the pitch, King Power has taken a massive hit from Covid and is now worth a third of what it was pre pandemic.. I guess LCFC isn't as high up on the son's priorities as those of his late father.. relegation could be a defining moment that sees them struggle to come back

Similar situation to Burnley last season.

Squad got too old, and they failed to reinvest and recruit as they had been doing in previous years.

Manager couldn't adapt his tactics, or simply lost interest.

Injuries to the likes of Maddison, note how their form has often dropped off when he's been absent through injury even prior to their malaise this season.

Players perhaps ;lost their hunger, exactly the same happened after they won the title under CR, fortunately for them Shakespeare came to the rescue then.

If Jesse Marsch is seen as the answer then they really are up the creak without a paddle.

Still if Rovers stay down they can at least enjoy the PL winners battle next season in the Champ.

Been to half a dozen of their games this year. They are weak defensively, with players like Amartey who are just not aggressive enough for a PL CH.They have made some poor purchase decisions and paid a lot of money for players like Daka , Soumare. They let Schmeikel go who has been missed and persisted with Ward in goal, when they had a very good keeper in Iversen, and they make numerous mistakes that lead to goals. The last two games lost this way. Vardy is not the player he was and no one has stepped in to fill that position.Rogers should have been sacked in December when they were high enough up the table to attract a good manager. The club is a mess with the new owner being more interested in his horse racing activities which seem to have more priority than LCFC

Historically, never had a problem with Leicester as a club, but they became horrible when Pearson was in charge, and even more so when they won the Premier League. They’re self entitled,happy clapping fans, singing about being “ champions of England, you’ll never sing that “, at us, when we’ve won it more times than them, beggars belief. Obviously just jumped on the Thai owner’s bandwagon. Get em down, back to where they belong, a fire sale of their better players ie Barnes, Maddison ensues, no investment from their disinterested owner ensues, and they’ll soon be forgotten. Good enough for em.

They are the one team down the bottom 6 or 7 that are a bit of a surprise for me. Agree with most of the points warksclaret, above, makes. Their defence is much of the problem.
They've scored 40 which is far more than others down the bottom (though Leeds have 38) - you've got to get up the table to Brentford in 9th to find any team with more. They've let in 52 though- definitely puts them in relegation contention. Couple of seasons back they had Evans/Soyuncu CBs who were pretty solid + Schmeichel in goals and, of course, Chilwell. All gone/injured or out-of-form.
Vardy kept his pace pretty well but mid 30s now and age/ injuries catching up - though Barnes and Maddison are still v good forward players.

+ King Power organisation has greatly lost wealth and possibly not concentrating so much on football/Leicester City so much now.
Transfers in have not been a great success generally.

I'm not fond of the Leicester City nowadays (though I lived there a few years in mid 70s and liked to watch them at Filbert Street- especially when F Worthington played)- would be one of my "likes" to go down along with Leeds.

distortiondave wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:52 am

Lets bring Harvey Barnes 'home' when they go down.

Would love that, but he has no affection for us at all, unfortunately.

Plastic fades over time.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:08 am

well, after they wen't into Administration, didn't pay the Ambulance staff nor the majority of contractors who built their stadium I think it's fantastic to see them returning to their natural level. It will hopefully wipe the smile off their smug forgetful fans who thought they were the second coming. I think it will be amazing if them and Forest drop

Post of the day sir.

ElectroClaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:51 am

PL champs only 7 years ago, some great players, yet they're second bottom.

Whats going on?

Vardy went ****
Nobody else can bag in that team

They have lost 11 (ELEVEN) of their last 15 games.

Man City up next…away!

What’s gone wrong?

Who cares. Good though innit.

That's one heck of a run in...

4:20 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 9:41 pm

That's one heck of a run in...

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It is but at this point the season can literally throw bizarre unexpected results at you, if the will to win is overpowering with some luck as well the odds can easily be overturned.

Garnerssoap wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:13 am

Refs stopped giving pens for those - sprint at full pace then stop on a landmine thingies

Or just move their leg into defender or just trip themselves up.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:21 pm

It is but at this point the season can literally throw bizarre unexpected results at you, if the will to win is overpowering with some luck as well the odds can easily be overturned.

Will the will match their opponents, most of whom will be desperate for the same? we'll see. Great entertainment on paper for the neutral with so many clubs fighting to stay up and playing each other.

Vardy's got old at the same time as the owners have looked to reduce the amount they're prepared to subsidise the club. JV's goals were the basis of their success and they got him for peanuts, but to replace him they're looking at >£100 million Leicester don't have the luxury of that sort of money. I'm hoping they avoid relegation as I expect them to lose Madison and Barnes over the summer and be nailed on for relegation next season

4:20 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:44 pm

Will the will match their opponents, most of whom will be desperate for the same? we'll see. Great entertainment on paper for the neutral with so many clubs fighting to stay up and playing each other.

That's true it's great if you are a neutral with no loyalties even though we've got everything sewn up it still affects us for next season, every week I don't seem able to decide who will go because clubs are picking up nobody seems able to put a run together I think it'll go down to the last game.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:02 pm

That's true it's great if you are a neutral with no loyalties even though we've got everything sewn up it still affects us for next season, every week I don't seem able to decide who will go because clubs are picking up nobody seems able to put a run together I think it'll go down to the last game.

Aye, it's unpredictable alright. It all changes on a weekly basis. One minute Forest seem to be scratching and clawing, the next they're right back down in it. It'll be someone else next week. Leicester seem to be the doom talk of the moment, Southampton seem to be sinking fast but a win or two will put them right back in the fight. I'm enjoying the shifting perception game. Hoping for a lead up to and a final day with many clubs and positions involved.

Apparently Marsch has decided not to take the job there now

Looking at the poll on foxestalk I don’t think much sleep will be lost.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 09, 2023 5:08 am

......... I think it will be amazing if them and Forest drop

Please no. Let's have at least 1 of Leeds & Everton.

THe club is devoid of any planning. THe talk down here is that Marsch has said NO, so they are looking at Dean Smith & Craig Shakespeare now

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:32 am

THe club is devoid of any planning. THe talk down here is that Marsch has said NO, so they are looking at Dean Smith & Craig Shakespeare now

Shakespeare as a short term appointment to get a reaction from the players might not be a bad shout, it worked for them last time they were in the mire.

I don't see what incentive any manager would have to take the reins at Leicester as whoever does is almost certain to have a relegation to their name at the end of the season.

Whether they stay up or not that club is in one hell of a mess, and serious dosh would need spending to improve their ageing squad.

A harsh reality check for their fans though, mind you it wasn't that long ago they were down in the 3rd tier.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:48 am

Shakespeare as a short term appointment to get a reaction from the players might not be a bad shout, it worked for them last time they were in the mire.

I don't see what incentive any manager would have to take the reins at Leicester as whoever does is almost certain to have a relegation to their name at the end of the season.

Whether they stay up or not that club is in one hell of a mess, and serious dosh would need spending to improve their ageing squad.

A harsh reality check for their fans though, mind you it wasn't that long ago they were down in the 3rd tier.

It presents an opportunity to a manager who's down on his chips & low in reputation & there's plenty of them, it could give that said manager a boost (if it's successful) somebody like a Dean Smith really or a hassihult (I know incorrect spelling) wouldn't have much to lose, it's only a gamble if you have something to lose. It's a challenge walking into an environment with things in disarray & pressure & that's what awaits the next Leicester manager.

Over the hill gang Gary Lineker should step in seems to know about everything .

Zenwisdom wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:14 am

Over the hill gang Gary Lineker should step in seems to know about everything .

Didn't do Newcastle any good appointing Shearer when they were in a similar pickle did it.

Easy to criticise from the comfort of the MOTD studio, but I note not many of those pundits will actually choose to test themselves in the management game.

With the lucrative BBC contracts & short managerial longevity jobs would you jack the gig in.

Jakubclaret wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:56 am

It presents an opportunity to a manager who's down on his chips & low in reputation & there's plenty of them, it could give that said manager a boost (if it's successful) somebody like a Dean Smith really or a hassihult (I know incorrect spelling) wouldn't have much to lose, it's only a gamble if you have something to lose. It's a challenge walking into an environment with things in disarray & pressure & that's what awaits the next Leicester manager.

It is definitely a challenge, and Marsch didn't fancy it.

The real issue for anyone who takes the Leicester gig now is they'll need to have an instant impact as games are at a premium to turn their ailing fortunes around.

8 games remaining, though in reality probably 7 given they travel to City next, and they realistically need to win 4 of those I'd wager.

If they could take it to the last day then a home game against West Ham represents a 50/50 shot for them.

tiger76 wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:32 am

It is definitely a challenge, and Marsch didn't fancy it.

The real issue for anyone who takes the Leicester gig now is they'll need to have an instant impact as games are at a premium to turn their ailing fortunes around.

8 games remaining, though in reality probably 7 given they travel to City next, and they realistically need to win 4 of those I'd wager.

If they could take it to the last day then a home game against West Ham represents a 50/50 shot for them.

Maybe top didn't offer marsch the reassurances he wanted about next season, anybody who takes the job & if Leicester stop up deserves the season after, a fair crack of the whip none of this interim BS where there's nobody else & you might be in contention pending, cast iron guarantees you do the business the job is yours.