Looking bleak for the Reds after yesterday's 5-2 home defeat to Fleetwood. Now second bottom and looking in real trouble. The one possible saving grace is that they're only two points adrift of safety, but they don't look like winning lately.
They've a home game with high flying Peterborough on Tuesday, which some will be calling the last throw of the dice. It'd help if they could keep 11 men on the pitch, another sending off yesterday, god knows how many that is lately.
Manager John Coleman received abuse coming off the pitch, with some fans calling on him to quit.
But the problem is who'd replace him, and if they were after someone to get them promoted if they do indeed drop, then they could do with someone like...Coleman.

And some would fairly say he's the one whos kept them up there as long as he has.

I hope they survive, but not confident at all they will.

7 - yes SEVEN - red cards since February I believe.

Any Accy fans calling for Coleman to go need to have a word with themselves...

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:09 pm

7 - yes SEVEN - red cards since February I believe.

Does the Club get fined for such a high number?

Leisure wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:13 pm

Does the Club get fined for such a high number?

Not sure, but the fans certainly deserve compensating. They pay and turn up to watch a proper game of 11 a-side football.

"Manager John Coleman received abuse coming off the pitch, with some fans calling on him to quit.
But the problem is who'd replace him "
Kompany obviously

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:11 pm

Any Accy fans calling for Coleman to go need to have a word with themselves...

I can understand that view - he's done a remarkable job there.

Maybe this is their Sean Dyche moment though and it's time for a change?

Lost their Way since the Leeds Game.

If they could get Paul Cook out of Chesterfield, he has a past in the area and with Accrington itself.
Micky Mellon may fancy it.

While Coleman has been Mr. Accrington, he did jump ship when he thought he could move on to better things. I think a new voice may be just what Accrington needs to start looking up again, they seem to have ‘settled’ for lower league one of late and may pay the ultimate price for sticking when they should have twisted when another tail dive began (again) this year.

If you have the lowest budget in the league every year you will eventually get relegated.

How the club survives at that level on such low crowds is anyone's guess.

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:09 pm

7 - yes SEVEN - red cards since February I believe.

And 2 of those red cards were for our goal keeper Jensen in 2 successive games

They're losing out on signings to Conference sides because some Conference sides pay higher wages than Stanley. They've had a huge number of injuries, especially to centre forwards and centre halves. It would be a miracle if they had stopped up. (Which they probably won't.)

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 16, 2023 8:09 pm

7 - yes SEVEN - red cards since February I believe.

The one on Saturday was a shocker

A bit out there but, if Ash has finished his badges the would be the perfect Player Manager.

dsr wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:52 pm

They're losing out on signings to Conference sides because some Conference sides pay higher wages than Stanley. They've had a huge number of injuries, especially to centre forwards and centre halves. It would be a miracle if they had stopped up. (Which they probably won't.)

They’re still punching massively above their weight attendance/income wise. All but Harrogate and Salford get more than there 2.9k, in the whole football league. And 7 clubs in the National get more than them.

Amex wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:54 am

A bit out there but, if Ash has finished his badges the would be the perfect Player Manager.

He'd be the perfect player, but manager?

Sacking a man for one average season after 21 brilliant ones would be absurd. When he took over, Accrington Stanley were on a par with Skelmersdale United and Bamber Bridge, both in football terms and population size. If Coleman was under pressure, then the Skem and Bridge managers must be worried!

Unfortunately I've always found an element of their supporters to be very anti-Burnley and I'll shed no tears should they be relegated. I know a lot of their fans are fed up with the players' lack of discipline and Coleman blaming referees ad nauseam.

I went on Saturday. Stanley were beyond bad for most of the game. McConville, Nottingham and Whalley who are their most experienced players were spectacularly awful. Some of the natives are quite restless but not too vocally.

Im not one of them who like us and them
They can go down for me

A few years ago I was hoping they would kick on above Rovers, so everyone in Lancashire could take the mick out of the blue and white rapscallions.

sjb wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:55 pm

Unfortunately I've always found an element of their supporters to be very anti-Burnley and I'll shed no tears should they be relegated. I know a lot of their fans are fed up with the players' lack of discipline and Coleman blaming referees ad nauseam.

Strange one that, my experience of them is completely the opposite.....At school at Accy Grammar and later at work their fans were fully appreciative of our achievements during the sixties.....Most were, and remain to this day, half and half Stanley and Burnley.

sjb wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:55 pm

Unfortunately I've always found an element of their supporters to be very anti-Burnley and I'll shed no tears should they be relegated. I know a lot of their fans are fed up with the players' lack of discipline and Coleman blaming referees ad nauseam.

Ive always Found it to be exactly the opposite , i go on 4-5 times a year, but theirs is a mix that go on so if burnley are away, it might have more local Burnley on. . If burnley are at home possibly more local rovers, but then i would never be on in that situation.

Went on a game around 2007 at home to Torquay, it was free entry for any fan and Accy scored a last minute free kick to win 1-0.

We had Preston away that day and it was an early kick off, before the game the announcer read out the score, we lost I think 2-1, and there was a huge cheer from the fans in the ground, definitely favour Blackburn more than us.

Though then a few years later we had that S.O.S friendly with them at Turf Moor under Coyle and I know they appreciated that gesture by the club.

dsr wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:16 am

Sacking a man for one average season after 21 brilliant ones would be absurd. When he took over, Accrington Stanley were on a par with Skelmersdale United and Bamber Bridge, both in football terms and population size. If Coleman was under pressure, then the Skem and Bridge managers must be worried!

Coleman has not been there throughout. He went to Rochdale but has been back now for the last eight and a half years.

On the subject of red cards and their lack of discipline, it’s noticeable that we haven’t played a friendly against them since those x-rated challenges in the League Cup game in 2016.

A friend of mine goes on occasions when he can’t get to a Burnley game and he was there last Saturday. He said they’ve been dreadful this season.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:13 pm

Coleman has not been there throughout. He went to Rochdale but has been back now for the last eight and a half years.

On the subject of red cards and their lack of discipline, it’s noticeable that we haven’t played a friendly against them since those x-rated challenges in the League Cup game in 2016.

A friend of mine goes on occasions when he can’t get to a Burnley game and he was there last Saturday. He said they’ve been dreadful this season.

The trod water whn Coleman was away - Paul Cook was one of the managers in that time. Yes, they've been awful this season. I have a season ticket for them as well, and when they play well (not often) they can't score, and when they play badly they still can't score but they let loads in.

dsr wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:53 pm

The trod water whn Coleman was away - Paul Cook was one of the managers in that time. Yes, they've been awful this season. I have a season ticket for them as well, and when they play well (not often) they can't score, and when they play badly they still can't score but they let loads in.

They've tended to have a goalscorer, players such as Kee, Charles and Bishop, but they've struggled this season for goals.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:58 pm

They've tended to have a goalscorer, players such as Kee, Charles and Bishop, but they've struggled this season for goals.

And we all know the consequences of being unable to score goals

I notice Bishop has 19 for Portsmouth.

Accrington still have Peterborough and ironically Portsmouth in their next 2 matches, both sides that have been scoring freely this campaign.

ClaretTony wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:13 pm

On the subject of red cards and their lack of discipline, it’s noticeable that we haven’t played a friendly against them since those x-rated challenges in the League Cup game in 2016.

Yep...there was some mindless yobbery that evening for sure..one thuggish lunge (possibly from an ex Burnley youth lad?) at a young Aiden O'Neill could have ended his career before it started...

Accy have a mighty tough run-in.

Peterborough (H)
Portsmouth (a)
Bolton (a)
Cambridge (H)
Oxford (a)

Their best hope is taking it to the last couple of games when they'll face fellow relegation strugglers.

And keeping 11 men on the park might assist them as well.

Another defeat for Stanley last night, and relegation is looking inevitable sadly for them.

Aye, they've p!ssed on t'chips now, be a minor miracle if they survive.

Oh well, maybe a reset and a fresh start next season.
But is there money to fund a reset?

If he gets potted will he have to take his eponymous bar with him?!

But seriously, as an Accringtonian I hope they stay up and retain a bit of civic pride for the town, as there is not much else sadly for the town to be proud about these days.... certainly not its run down town centre and inept clowncil.

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote: ↑

Wed Apr 19, 2023 6:11 pm

If he gets potted will he have to take his eponymous bar with him?!

But seriously, as an Accringtonian I hope they stay up and retain a bit of civic pride for the town, as there is not much else sadly for the town to be proud about these days.... certainly not its run down town centre and inept clowncil.

Not strictly true.....I spotted today two superb portraits of King Charles 111 on the facade of the Town Hall.