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Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:01 am
by IWOODLOVETT
Burnley have signed Dutch midfielder Remco van der Schaaf on a free transfer after his release by Vitesse Arnhem.
The 29-year-old has penned a three-year deal having turned down another offer from Cardiff.
"He's a player we've been tracking for some time, we've had him watched and he will be a tremendous addition to the club," Coyle told BBC Radio Lancashire.
"He's terrific on the ball and we're excited to be working with him, he patrols in front of the back four."
"There was loads of interest elsewhere, it's been on-going for a bit but we convinced him to come.
"We were aware of him as early as January, he's a type of player we don't have and he gives us that defensive side."
ONE APPEARANCE for the club and a swift exit. What the hell happened - does anyone know the facts? Did he fall out with the manager?
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:04 am
by Fretters
I wouldn't say swift exit, we were lumbered with him for three years. Wasn't he our highest paid player in the Premier League?
A very strange one.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:09 am
by IWOODLOVETT
I think he was loaned out to Bronby after about six months.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:11 am
by RVclaret
Looked good in pre season too!
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:19 am
by IWOODLOVETT
Any mention in Barry’s book?
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:44 am
by claretburns
The older fans have their shield of armour as Burnley fans such as "were you at the 6-1 home loss to Hereford in the 80s".
Younger fans have their armour by saying "I was at van der Schaaf's only appearance at Sheff Wed in 2008".
A strange signing, file away with Diego Penny, Fernando Guerrero, Frederic Nimani and Besart Berisha.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:52 am
by Pickles
Besart Berisha ❤
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:00 am
by Swizzlestick
Didn't realise Cardiff were after him too - but look who their chairman was at the time! The Riddler!
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... af-2172855
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:06 am
by tarkys_ears
claretburns wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:44 am
The older fans have their shield of armour as Burnley fans such as "were you at the 6-1 home loss to Hereford in the 80s".
Younger fans have their armour by saying "I was at van der Schaaf's only appearance at Sheff Wed in 2008".
A strange signing, file away with Diego Penny, Fernando Guerrero, Frederic Nimani and Besart Berisha.
Don't forget Dane Richards
...anyone else to add on this rather perculiar list?
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:09 am
by JohnMac
Not sure Besart was a bad signing, just a very bad injury perhaps robbed us of his potential. Add that to having him put in a Hotel on his own in a new Country.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:13 am
by strayclaret
I was so excited I bought an orange T-shirt with his name on the back.
Wore it once
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:17 am
by IWOODLOVETT
All these others (except Penny) were given a run in the side, but RvdS played just ONE game and it was the first game of a new season.
Very strange.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:21 am
by Rowls
Didn’t Coyle confess that we’d simply bought a stinker in van der Schaefer?
Of course, if he did, it would make a mockery of his claims of exhaustive scouting on the useless lump.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:26 am
by dsr
claretburns wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:44 am
The older fans have their shield of armour as Burnley fans such as "were you at the 6-1 home loss to Hereford in the 80s".
Younger fans have their armour by saying "I was at van der Schaaf's only appearance at Sheff Wed in 2008".
A strange signing, file away with Diego Penny, Fernando Guerrero, Frederic Nimani and Besart Berisha.
It was 6-0. I was there!
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:34 am
by IWOODLOVETT
Rowls wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:21 am
Didn’t Coyle confess that we’d simply bought a stinker in van der Schaefer?
Of course, if he did, it would make a mockery of his claims of exhaustive scouting on the useless lump.
He came with a big reputation and as Coyle said “"There was loads of interest elsewhere, it's been on-going for a bit but we convinced him to come”.
As RVClaret said he looked good in pre-season, so Coyle saw enough of the player to include home in his starting line-up for the new season. So something big must have happened after that first game for him to be frozen out.
I was there too and he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:38 am
by Rowls
IWOODLOVETT wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:34 am
He came with a big reputation and as Coyle said “"There was loads of interest elsewhere, it's been on-going for a bit but we convinced him to come”.
As RVClaret said he looked good in pre-season, so Coyle saw enough of the player to include home in his starting line-up for the new season. So something big must have happened after that first game for him to be frozen out.
I was there too and he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch.
I was there and I agree. It was a toss up between him and Diego penny.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:46 am
by daveisaclaret
I thought Grezza gave him a good run for worst (outfield) player on the pitch that day. Thankfully from memory he only played the 0-3 v Ipswich at right back again and the rest is history.
I would never point a finger at anyone regarding this but with some of the names mentioned (eg Dane RIchards, Fernando Guerrero) it would be really interesting to know what the finances of the deals were and where the money went.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:53 am
by IanMcL
Pickles wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:52 am
Besart Berisha ❤
Wasn't it McClaren who suggested we sign him, after that international? Someone did!
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:12 am
by JellyBaby
What happened to Jelle Vossen? Was that his name?
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:18 am
by agreenwood
JellyBaby wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:12 am
What happened to Jelle Vossen? Was that his name?
Had a decent career back in the Belgian top flight, including playing for Club Brugge in Europe.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:20 am
by CoolClaret
JellyBaby wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:12 am
What happened to Jelle Vossen? Was that his name?
He basically used as a means to transfer from Genk to Brugge without going direct.
So strange, signed, played four games then left in the same window
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:37 am
by RammyClaret61
claretburns wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:44 am
A strange signing, file away with Diego Penny, Fernando Guerrero, Frederic Nimani and Besart Berisha.
I might be wrong, but weren’t all those signings in the same window?
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:42 am
by TheFamilyCat
Marco Gentile, Remco, Weghorst.... The Netherlands hasn't been our best source of players.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:10 am
by SammyBoy
I assume Van der Schaaf was meant to play the position Grezza ended up in, i.e. CDM, but for whatever reason that didn't pan out.
Also, regarding Dane Richards, if Wikipedia is to be believed he didn't make a senior professional appearance until he was 24 which seems bizarre, apparently he was playing University football until then.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:12 am
by ClaretTony
SammyBoy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:10 am
I assume Van der Schaaf was meant to play the position Grezza ended up in, i.e. CDM, but for whatever reason that didn't pan out.
Also, regarding Dane Richards, if Wikipedia is to be believed he didn't make a senior professional appearance until he was 24 which seems bizarre, apparently he was playing University football until then.
Grezza had already played there for us.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:12 am
by SammyBoy
RammyClaret61 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:37 am
I might be wrong, but weren’t all those signings in the same window?
Just looked it up and apparently Berisha was 2007, VDS 2008, Guerrero 2009 and Nimani 2010.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:14 am
by ClaretTony
IWOODLOVETT wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:01 am
Burnley have signed Dutch midfielder Remco van der Schaaf on a free transfer after his release by Vitesse Arnhem.
The 29-year-old has penned a three-year deal having turned down another offer from Cardiff.
"He's a player we've been tracking for some time, we've had him watched and he will be a tremendous addition to the club," Coyle told BBC Radio Lancashire.
"He's terrific on the ball and we're excited to be working with him, he patrols in front of the back four."
"There was loads of interest elsewhere, it's been on-going for a bit but we convinced him to come.
"We were aware of him as early as January, he's a type of player we don't have and he gives us that defensive side."
ONE APPEARANCE for the club and a swift exit. What the hell happened - does anyone know the facts? Did he fall out with the manager?
On the morning of the day we signed him, given the speculation, Coyle was asked about him in a press conference prior to the USA trip. Coyle said he’d never heard of Remco van der Schaaf that morning.
No idea what happened but he was definitely placed on the naughty step with some others. Following promotion he became our highest paid player.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:19 am
by CoolClaret
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:14 am
On the morning of the day we signed him, given the speculation, Coyle was asked about him in a press conference prior to the USA trip. Coyle said he’d never heard of Remco van der Schaaf that morning.
No idea what happened but he was definitely placed on the naughty step with some others. Following promotion he became our highest paid player.
One of my mates that was in the youth team said he went and trained with them.
He said he was obviously a gifted player and really technical said that he could barely move and didn’t have the physicality for champ footy. Constantly in with the physio with a really bad knee
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:59 pm
by RammyClaret61
SammyBoy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:12 am
Just looked it up and apparently Berisha was 2007, VDS 2008, Guerrero 2009 and Nimani 2010.
4 consistent years then. Coyle out!!!
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:21 pm
by burnmark
Cotterill signed Berisha.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:40 pm
by ChrisG
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:42 am
Marco Gentile, Remco, Weghorst.... The Netherlands hasn't been our best source of players.
Granted, however for balance, Ian Maatsen and Erik Pieters you'd have to argue are decent Dutch signings.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:16 pm
by TsarBomba
I was told, and I have no idea how true this is, that Remco had a bust up with Coyle in front of the rest of the players at HT in that first game, and pretty much burnt his bridges from the get go.
Whatever the truth, he was a very expensive flop.
Re: Burnley’s best kept secret
Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:52 pm
by NRC
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 11:14 am
On the morning of the day we signed him, given the speculation, Coyle was asked about him in a press conference prior to the USA trip. Coyle said he’d never heard of Remco van der Schaaf that morning.
No idea what happened but he was definitely placed on the naughty step with some others. Following promotion he became our highest paid player.
I watched all the USA games in situ and RVDS was the pre-season best player for me
