RATE THE REF - Dean Whitestone v QPR

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 4:55 pm

Dean Whitestone v QPR

How to Score
A. Decision Making (including use of advantage) - out of 25
B. Consistency - out of 25
C. Fitness and Positioning - of 25
D. Control and Authority - out of 25

Please only Rate the Ref if you attended the game and only do so, after the game has ended. Thank you

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:05 pm

This will be good.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:06 pm

Absolute disgrace. Worst I’ve seen this season and that’s saying something, bearing in mind he didn’t have much to do. Utterly hopeless.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:12 pm

Just weak.

Philss_99 · Post by **Philss_99** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Probably the worst - No sorry definitely the worst ref I have seen this season. Terrible time keeping, allowing blatant cheating / time wasting from keeper. Frustrated.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:13 pm

A - 3
B - 3
C - 3
D - 3

No words for how bad he was.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:14 pm

As bad as you will see. Added a total of 11 minutes when it should have been closer to 15. P!ss weak, odd decisions, the list of poor decisions is absolutely endless. Reffed like he was on glue

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:16 pm

A. 10
B. 19
C. 13
D. 3

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:19 pm

Sadly had nothing to do as there was hardly any football played. The play acting was laughably weakly dealt with. I don't mind teams doing it when they're fighting for their lives and if there are no consequences then who can blame them.

So, in summary, the only thing he had to do was deal with the excessive time-wasting and he repeatedly did nothing.

A10
B20
C20
D5

Caballo · Post by **Caballo** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:20 pm

Farcical performance!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:21 pm

in a season full of shite refs he's been the worst

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:23 pm

Cheers for removing my post.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:35 pm

All the sympathy in the world with the decisions refs have to make in real time.

But when they fail to enforce the basics of the game, its indefensible. No football game that doesn't involve a serious injury should finish after 5 o clock and if it does, the ref is responsible. Not booking players for kicking the ball away, not nailing time wasting, indulging players going down with cramp in the first half- that's on the ref. He has to be stronger.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:44 pm

Stamped his authority with the booking for time wasting in the 89th minute.
Really taught them a lesson.

fanzone · Post by **fanzone** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:48 pm

0 for everything.

While people are paying to watch a timed sport time wasting should be deemed a criminal act.

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:49 pm

The only thing worse than the tramp on the touch line

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:52 pm

Shite

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:54 pm

fanzone wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2023 5:48 pm
0 for everything.

While people are paying to watch a timed sport time wasting should be deemed a criminal act.

Exactly, ultimately the fans are loosing out.

I'd like to see the actual statistics today regarding the time that ball was actually in play

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:01 pm

A. 11
B. 10
C. 14
D. 5

What should have been an easy game to referee, he turned into a complete nonsense with his inability to deal with the time wasting.

Beagleheart · Post by **Beagleheart** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:03 pm

12
12
17
3

Luppy · Post by **Luppy** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:10 pm

Shicker of a performace - the serial time wasting was beyond belief. For all their rolling around second half the trainer didn't come on once - shambolic.

10
12
12
3

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:14 pm

A. Decision Making - 10
B. Consistency - 10
C. Fitness and Positioning - 15
D. Control and Authority - 5

Other than his complete lack of authority in establishing and controlling the time wasting and professional shithousery. He was OK. Probably should have been 2 more mins in first half and 6 more in 2nd half additional extra time to what was given

fungus_the_bogeyman · Post by **fungus_the_bogeyman** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:18 pm

A 5
B 5
C 10
D 5

8 minutes added could honestly have been 28. There was about 10-15 minutes of actual football played second half. They should have had three or four players booked for time wasting.

daveisaclaret · Post by **daveisaclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:20 pm

Genuinely difficult to imagine how he might have reffed differently if he'd been paid off by QPR. Say what you want about VAR, I am looking forward to at least having competent refs more often next season.

Boss Hogg · Post by **Boss Hogg** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:22 pm

Shocking today. No grip of the game or the ludicrous time wasting.

The Hung Juror · Post by **The Hung Juror** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:28 pm

Referees like that, will have the game done away with. Whilst, QPR’s time wasting was farcical, they were allowed to get away with it, by a referee who exerted no authority whatsoever.

Their goalkeeper should have been booked in the first half and that would have set the tone. Somebody should tell him that simply keep pointing at his watch, does nothing to stop the time wasting.

As infuriating a game as I’ve been to in a long long time.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:32 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:18 pm
I rated the same and post was removed

My scores accurately reflect what I think. Any higher and it would not reflect his control of the game. It didn't exist.

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:35 pm

Never understand why refs don’t stamp out time wasting by having a word early on and then start carding
That should stop it in the first half
As others have said there was very little to referee

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:37 pm

Absolute disgrace of a performance and therefore an absolute disgrace of a football match.

Puts me off wanting to watch.

jos · Post by **jos** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:39 pm

mdd2 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:35 pm
Never understand why refs don’t stamp out time wasting by having a word early on and then start carding
That should stop it in the first half
As others have said there was very little to referee

It’s a similar problem in the premier league too, as you quite rightly say, it should be an easy problem to solve.

what_no_pies · Post by **what_no_pies** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:12 pm

10
5
10
0

Mainly through a lack of action he was complicit in the time wasting. A booking in the 89th minute does nothing exceot gobble up more seconds.

He could also be awarded an assist for the corner they scored from. Players fouling the keeper and he stops the taking of it. Why refs don't just let the corner go and penalise the offending team is beyond me.

RammyClaret61 · Post by **RammyClaret61** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:23 pm

A. Decision Making.. 3 he failed to make any until the 89th minute.
B. Consistency.. 15. Consistently absent
C. Fitness and Positioning.. 5
D. Control and Authority.. -5

Him and QPR where a disgrace.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:37 pm

A.7
B. 20 this is the only one he can double figures ... consistently POOOOOOR
C. 8
D. 3

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:59 pm

8
8
16
2

Sproggy · Post by **Sproggy** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:15 pm

7
3
20
3

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:16 pm

5
5
10
5

Refs have cost us wins now in our last 2 games. First the handball not given at Rotherham that could have been 0-2 then today. The team were definitely affected by the antics and if stamped out early I think we would have won comfortably. I can’t blame QPR for trying, though it took cheating to whole new levels, the officials were mainly to blame for the farce the game became.

Pickles · Post by **Pickles** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:31 pm

Utterly pathetic and should be no where near refereeing in the second tier. How much are these lot paid? I fancy a go.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:38 pm

Pickles wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:31 pm
Utterly pathetic and should be no where near refereeing in the second tier. How much are these lot paid? I fancy a go.

I think it’s ‘who you know’ in the refereeing fraternity.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:50 pm

I hear people say it's time wasting, that is only a small element of what went on today.

The major reason for employing the tactics of going down 'injured', returning the ball into play slowly and kicking the ball away is more about breaking up play and not allowing us to get any momentum going. Adding on whatever amount of time at the end does not stop this happening.

The way to nip it in the bud is to warn teams early on that players will start to be booked if it continues, a caution on eighty eight minutes is laughable and completely toothless.

The reasons why the law makers are thinking about bringing in stop clocks etc is because the man in the middle is unable and unwilling to use the tools at his disposal to prevent this happening.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:02 pm

A. 10
B. 19
C. 13
D. 10

shulgin · Post by **shulgin** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:55 pm

Not going to rate him but there have been worse referees than this clown this season. Very little authority. Even late on QPR players were getting on his case after freekicks given to waste time.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:18 pm

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:50 pm
I hear people say it's time wasting, that is only a small element of what went on today.

The major reason for employing the tactics of going down 'injured', returning the ball into play slowly and kicking the ball away is more about breaking up play and not allowing us to get any momentum going. Adding on whatever amount of time at the end does not stop this happening.

The way to nip it in the bud is to warn teams early on that players will start to be booked if it continues, a caution on eighty eight minutes is laughable and completely toothless.

The reasons why the law makers are thinking about bringing in stop clocks etc is because the man in the middle is unable and unwilling to use the tools at his disposal to prevent this happening.

I was about to post the same. The time is supposedly added on at the end, but the game was just broken up for a stoppage every time the ball went dead. It led to such a disjointed second half which obviously benefited QPR, and in their position I can’t blame them for taking advantage of such a weak referee. 8 minutes was less than what should have been added on, but the reality is the referee should never be in a position where 8 minutes is required as additional time unless there has been a serious injury or two.

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:34 pm

Never usually comment on refs as it’s a tough gig but my god, the complete lack of authority today was astonishing. You knew from the first few minutes that he wasn’t going to take control of the game and that basically gave QPR the green light to take it easy and start disrupting the game with feigned injury. He did nothing to stop it and it ruined the game and gave them an advantage which they capitalised on.

Sozturf7 · Post by **Sozturf7** » Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:51 pm

Well supported by a blind linesman.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:23 am

Goody1975 wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:50 pm
I hear people say it's time wasting, that is only a small element of what went on today.

The major reason for employing the tactics of going down 'injured', returning the ball into play slowly and kicking the ball away is more about breaking up play and not allowing us to get any momentum going. Adding on whatever amount of time at the end does not stop this happening.

The way to nip it in the bud is to warn teams early on that players will start to be booked if it continues, a caution on eighty eight minutes is laughable and completely toothless.

The reasons why the law makers are thinking about bringing in stop clocks etc is because the man in the middle is unable and unwilling to use the tools at his disposal to prevent this happening.

The way to stop it is to insist that any player who holds the game up through injury, has to go off and not return until the next break in play. Rough on those who are genuinely injured, but that's less than 10% of "injury" holdups. If the players are going to collectively cheat, then they will have to be collectively punished.

This leaving the field would also apply to those players who say they don't need the trainer but still manage to hold the game up while they struggle to their one remaining foot. (Which then miraculously recovers.) If a player is inured, the ref asks him if he needs treatment, and if not, the game goes on with or without him. If the man is not injured, then restart the game.. There is no need to wait for an uninjured man to get over his non-injury.

Commy · Post by **Commy** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:53 am

Have a clock which stops when they go down. Everyone will know how much time is due then.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:05 am

I don't think I've ever seen a referee demand a freekick be moved 5 yards to be taken from the exact spot of the foul, when the free kick was in our own penalty area. He was nearly as bad for time wasting as they were.

Stacky_claret · Post by **Stacky_claret** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:26 am

Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:05 am
I don't think I've ever seen a referee demand a freekick be moved 5 yards to be taken from the exact spot of the foul, when the free kick was in our own penalty area. He was nearly as bad for time wasting as they were.

QPR played him like an old fiddle and he lapped it up willingly

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 am

Diabolical,how this gutless fool ever got on the league list is a total mystery
Ignored play acting and time wasting by QPR
We need 20 mins added time.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 am

dsr wrote: ↑
Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:23 am
The way to stop it is to insist that any player who holds the game up through injury, has to go off and not return until the next break in play. Rough on those who are genuinely injured, but that's less than 10% of "injury" holdups. If the players are going to collectively cheat, then they will have to be collectively punished.

This leaving the field would also apply to those players who say they don't need the trainer but still manage to hold the game up while they struggle to their one remaining foot. (Which then miraculously recovers.) If a player is inured, the ref asks him if he needs treatment, and if not, the game goes on with or without him. If the man is not injured, then restart the game.. There is no need to wait for an uninjured man to get over his non-injury.

I’ve always had a bit of an issue with that in the case of genuine injuries though. If you’re hit by a poor tackle, it seems slightly unfair that your team have to play with 10 men for a short spell of the physio had had to come on.