Wrong decision to start with Barnes. Got to give the likes of Foster, a rapidly improving player, as much game time as possible this season. He is the future.

Not as much as we missed Tella.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:15 pm

Not as much as we missed Tella.

this

Weird we aren't asking Obafemi to step in and play his position given his pace

Was quite disappointed he didn’t start, let alone didn’t make the bench, after his performance on Tuesday. Same for Twine.

We were missing a top striker today. Barnes has done a job for us this season but definitely the right call to release him.

RVclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:16 pm

Was quite disappointed he didn’t start, let alone didn’t make the bench, after his performance on Tuesday. Same for Twine.

makes you wonder of Foster was injured

Should have given Foster another game or start Obafemi. Barnes isnt offering anything. Bet Barnes starts against Blackburn though but not sure he should.

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:19 pm

makes you wonder of Foster was injured

Not injured - he was out warming up and involved in drills before the game. It seems to be a regular thing for players not involved with the match day squad to still be part of the pre game activities.

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:15 pm

Not as much as we missed Tella.

Starting to be hugely missed

gawthorpe_view wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:15 pm

Not as much as we missed Tella.

Hits nail on head. The line-up today was correct. Tella would've obviously played had he been fit.

Tella is a huge loss, likely if he played today we win by 2 or 3 given all those chances we created 1st half.

I miss Foster like I miss a hole in the head

Dunno if we’d have been any better, but I was just thinking that if Foster had put in the performance Barnes or Jay did today, there’d probably be yet another “Foster isn’t good enough” thread.

Saving him for Deadwood Equestrian Centre

agreenwood wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:27 pm

Dunno if we’d have been any better, but I was just thinking that if Foster had put in the performance Barnes or Jay did today, there’d probably be yet another “Foster isn’t good enough” thread.

Oh 100%, he’d be out on loan already

Can’t see us winning another game if we are relying on Foster to be honest.

agreenwood wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:27 pm

Dunno if we’d have been any better, but I was just thinking that if Foster had put in the performance Barnes or Jay did today, there’d probably be yet another “Foster isn’t good enough” thread.

I'm sure this would've been the case. But Barnes and Jay have plenty of credit in the bank so to speak and have on multiple occasions performed very well after rough patches, whereas Foster is still an unknown quantity and has understandably got lots to do because it's early days.

Foster is the future.

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:14 pm

Wrong decision to start with Barnes. Got to give the likes of Foster, a rapidly improving player, as much game time as possible this season. He is the future.

Bin Ont Turf wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:51 pm

An insightful alternative opinion to the posters view.

We’ve spent a good chunk of money of Foster, we need to give him every opportunity and there were some good signs the other night.

Robbie_painter wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:28 pm

Can’t see us winning another game if we are relying on Foster to be honest.

Unfortunately our other striker options are hardly reliable.

DCWat wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:58 pm

An insightful alternative opinion to the posters view.

We’ve spent a good chunk of money of Foster, we need to give him every opportunity and there were some good signs the other night.

We will not see him again after this season.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 7:00 pm

Unfortunately our other striker options are hardly reliable.

No ****

Uwe Noble wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:14 pm

Got to give the likes of Foster, a rapidly improving player, as much game time as possible this season. He is the future.

I hope not.

Love the way on this Board how the worth of a player rockets up when he is suddenly not playing, injured, dropped or suspended. From pelters one week to "how we missed him today, he would have been the difference".I suspect Foster today would not have made any difference-the guy we missed most tonight and the other two recent games was Tella.

VK has a real challenge on his hands-he needs to find a genuine goal scorer or two, as making numerous chances does not guarantee you goals or points. Three of the four sides with the lowest goals in the PL are Saints, Everton & Forest-no coincidence they are the bottom three tonight and fovourites to get relegated

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:44 pm

Love the way on this Board how the worth of a player rockets up when he is suddenly not playing, injured, dropped or suspended. From pelters one week to "how we missed him today, he would have been the difference".I suspect Foster today would not have made any difference-the guy we missed most tonight and the other two recent games was Tella.

VK has a real challenge on his hands-he needs to find a genuine goal scorer or two, as making numerous chances does not guarantee you goals or points. Three of the four sides with the lowest goals in the PL are Saints, Everton & Forest-no coincidence they are the bottom three tonight and fovourites to get relegated

Totally agree with this.

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:44 pm

Love the way on this Board how the worth of a player rockets up when he is suddenly not playing, injured, dropped or suspended. From pelters one week to "how we missed him today, he would have been the difference".I suspect Foster today would not have made any difference-the guy we missed most tonight and the other two recent games was Tella.

VK has a real challenge on his hands-he needs to find a genuine goal scorer or two, as making numerous chances does not guarantee you goals or points. Three of the four sides with the lowest goals in the PL are Saints, Everton & Forest-no coincidence they are the bottom three tonight and fovourites to get relegated

So right is this

We're a club still in transition with a lot more changes yet to come. Rather than be disappointed about losing the odd game, I'm excited about the level of anticipation of what's to come.

warksclaret wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:44 pm

Love the way on this Board how the worth of a player rockets up when he is suddenly not playing, injured, dropped or suspended. From pelters one week to "how we missed him today, he would have been the difference".I suspect Foster today would not have made any difference-the guy we missed most tonight and the other two recent games was Tella.

VK has a real challenge on his hands-he needs to find a genuine goal scorer or two, as making numerous chances does not guarantee you goals or points. Three of the four sides with the lowest goals in the PL are Saints, Everton & Forest-no coincidence they are the bottom three tonight and fovourites to get relegated

Hence why goal scorers cost a bloody fortune! We do play some lovely football but regardless of how you play, it still comes down to the basics of keeping the thing out your net whilst sticking it in theirs more often!

We were fine today and Bashley was unlucky on a couple of occasions. THBs miss was a bad one. We go again and a ball will drop in the right areas with someone there. 80% invariably wins you a game. Today was a freak and things will return to normal in the next three games

Blue Skies wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:12 pm

We were fine today and Bashley was unlucky on a couple of occasions. THBs miss was a bad one. We go again and a ball will drop in the right areas with someone there. 80% invariably wins you a game. Today was a freak and things will return to normal in the next three games

RE Ashley, it's not luck, it's being that split second too slow. Great club servant, but time has caught up with him.

I think Jimmy Greaves had it right with his ‘it’s a funny old game’ comment. We had enough chances in the first half to win 3 games today but somehow lost?!?!

With the OP’s post in mind, I do not think Foster would have made any difference whatsoever; Tella on the other hand………..

Blue Skies wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:12 pm

We were fine today and Bashley was unlucky on a couple of occasions. THBs miss was a bad one. We go again and a ball will drop in the right areas with someone there. 80% invariably wins you a game. Today was a freak and things will return to normal in the next three games

Glad some people talk sense on this board ,if we’d have won every game before today there would still be some idiots moaning we weren’t good enough.

Tuddybfc wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 6:26 pm

I miss Foster like I miss a hole in the head

Unbelievable.

boatshed bill wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:17 pm

RE Ashley, it's not luck, it's being that split second too slow. Great club servant, but time has caught up with him.

This.

We really missed Peacock Farrell and Costelloe today.

I’d like to see Foster and Barnes together.
I think that would be more effective then what we did Today. We need someone upfront alongside the main striker who has some pace

Rileybobs wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:13 pm

We really missed Peacock Farrell and Costelloe today.

You forgot Egan-Riley, erm, Riley...

We haven't been the same since he was sent out on loan.

We missed something upfront centrally, I don’t think Foster, Jay, Obafemi or Barnes are the answer.

KRBFC wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:54 am

We missed something upfront centrally, I don’t think Foster, Jay, Obafemi or Barnes are the answer.

That is rather concerning if none of our present strikers are capable of making the step up to the PL.

Of that quartet I suspect Barnes and Jay won't be here next season, Foster is still raw and learning to adapt to the pace of the English game, Obafemi has shown signs to suggest he could be a useful bench option but possibly no better than that next season.

It does seem bizarre that we are hankering after a potent striker when we've netted 81 goals and are battling Boro to be the leagues top scorers.

However this season has been unique in many ways, notably the amount of players who have chipped in from all areas of the pitch, and with the best will in the world that is unlikely to be the case in the Prem.

Tella might be able to make the step up, however despite his success in the Championship he's also still unproven at the top level.

For me we need 2 strikers in the summer, Tella might be one if we can agree a deal with Saints, but who the 2nd might be I haven't a clue.

Those we've been linked with such as Gyokeres might be beyond our budget, and will likely have fellow PL clubs chasing them who can offer bigger wages.

Which bit were we missing? His goals?

We were missing Tella and nothing/nobody else.

Tella plays yesterday I suspect we are winning 3-0 before half time, and that’s no exaggeration. The football was superb in that period and QPR were hanging on for dear life (albeit with some superb last ditch blocks etc) but we had nobody with the killer instinct to stick it away. Benny should have scored, Barnes should have scored, THB missed an open goal, Benny hit the bar etc etc. Creation wasn’t the issue, sticking it in the net was.

No explanation from the huge drop off in intensity and urgency in the second half that I can give.

"Missing Foster today"
Which shows just how weak our striker options are
As for Obafemmi - has he ever started a game ?

I don't think Foster would have made a difference yesterday, but he needs to try and get some game time till the end of the season. I wouldn't mind seeing what Obafemi can do up top .